Front Office Football Central  

Go Back   Front Office Football Central > Main Forums > Off Topic
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Statistics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-12-2013, 02:40 PM   #1101
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
Should I buy 400 Days and play it before the main story, or play after, or what?

Play it after. it isn't related to the story of season 1 though and is intended as a setup for season 2.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 02:46 PM   #1102
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Cool - that's what I thought. It's also not on sale, so no NEED to grab it now.
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 02:47 PM   #1103
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
da fuq is this trading card thing? Can someone explain it? I gather FM13 is giving them now, which means I will hopefully start getting a bunch for playing/prowess in that.

Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 07-12-2013 at 02:48 PM.
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 02:48 PM   #1104
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Just picked up XCom as a reward for being patient. I'd like to see Kentucky Route 0 for a pretty good price. I would pick up Surgeon Sim on a flash deal. I'm also hoping Borderlands 2 and Skyrim come down closer to my strike price.
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam



PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 02:50 PM   #1105
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Quote:
Originally Posted by PilotMan View Post
Just picked up XCom as a reward for being patient.

You and me both!

Did you grab the DLC for XCom too? It's on flash also...both pieces of it for like 2.99 total.

Careful if you have to fly into SFO hmm?
__________________
If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :)
BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5
ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:08 PM   #1106
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
Cool - that's what I thought. It's also not on sale, so no NEED to grab it now.

It will probably go on sale before season 2 comes out.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:10 PM   #1107
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
You and me both!

Did you grab the DLC for XCom too? It's on flash also...both pieces of it for like 2.99 total.

Careful if you have to fly into SFO hmm?

The DLC isn't very important. Elite soldier is just cosmetics and Slingshot changes a few council missions and gives you an elite unit for completing the first council mission.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:13 PM   #1108
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by PilotMan View Post
Just picked up XCom as a reward for being patient. I'd like to see Kentucky Route 0 for a pretty good price. I would pick up Surgeon Sim on a flash deal. I'm also hoping Borderlands 2 and Skyrim come down closer to my strike price.

Kentucky Route 0 is great, the first two episodes have it as a contender for my game of the year so far.

Borderlands 2 and Skyrim will probably go back on sale, but not lower than they were yesterday.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:13 PM   #1109
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Quote:
Originally Posted by mckerney View Post
The DLC isn't very important. Elite soldier is just cosmetics and Slingshot changes a few council missions and gives you an elite unit for completing the first council mission.

For $3 I'm down with that. At least the missions-bit.
__________________
If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :)
BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5
ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:45 PM   #1110
nilodor
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: calgary, AB
I picked up FM2013. I'm hoping it will hold my attention better than 2012. It's really going to be made on the classic mode. If it brings the season length down to a few hours I'll be very happy. Does anyone have a good guide to how soccer works (like the idea of transfers and loans and all that stuff) because one of my big problems getting into the game was figuring out what I actually should be doing with regards to how many players to bring in, what transfers mean, when to do it, etc.
nilodor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 03:57 PM   #1111
BrianD
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
What is the verdict on Endless Space for $10.19?
BrianD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 04:08 PM   #1112
Izulde
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
FTL for $2.49 feels like something I should pull the trigger on, given all the rave reviews it got here.
__________________
2006 Golden Scribe Nominee
2006 Golden Scribe Winner
Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

Rookie Writer of the Year
Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)
Izulde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #1113
BrianD
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izulde View Post
FTL for $2.49 feels like something I should pull the trigger on, given all the rave reviews it got here.

It is easily worth $2.49.
BrianD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 04:39 PM   #1114
jeff061
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
I've gotten more playtime and fun out of ftl than I've gotten out of most big budget games.
__________________


Last edited by jeff061 : 07-12-2013 at 04:40 PM.
jeff061 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 05:39 PM   #1115
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Steam key for Tomb Raider is $14.87 on Amazon when you use the code "gooncave" (one time use code).

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VFHGZ4/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

Last edited by mckerney : 07-12-2013 at 05:40 PM.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #1116
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
You and me both!

Did you grab the DLC for XCom too? It's on flash also...both pieces of it for like 2.99 total.

Careful if you have to fly into SFO hmm?

I did. Eh, I still won be at the controls of a plane for 5 or 6 weeks. Actually excited to go there. That's an airport I've never been to.
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam



PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM   #1117
Thomkal
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izulde View Post
FTL for $2.49 feels like something I should pull the trigger on, given all the rave reviews it got here.

You absolutely should pull the trigger.
Thomkal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 07:43 PM   #1118
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilodor View Post
I picked up FM2013. I'm hoping it will hold my attention better than 2012. It's really going to be made on the classic mode. If it brings the season length down to a few hours I'll be very happy. Does anyone have a good guide to how soccer works (like the idea of transfers and loans and all that stuff) because one of my big problems getting into the game was figuring out what I actually should be doing with regards to how many players to bring in, what transfers mean, when to do it, etc.

Come visit us in the FM thread and we'll answer your questions and more!
__________________
If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :)
BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5
ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 07:48 PM   #1119
Izulde
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
I got through the first couple sectors fine but never got weapons upgrade and couldn't repair my hull. Then these Mantis things wiped out my crew and ship in some zone with a solar flare so I croaked.
__________________
2006 Golden Scribe Nominee
2006 Golden Scribe Winner
Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

Rookie Writer of the Year
Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)
Izulde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 08:01 PM   #1120
Thomkal
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izulde View Post
I got through the first couple sectors fine but never got weapons upgrade and couldn't repair my hull. Then these Mantis things wiped out my crew and ship in some zone with a solar flare so I croaked.

Expect croaked to be a common occurrence. Why couldn't you repair your hull? Ran out of scrap? And yeah Mantis = not nice. With solar flares, unless you are facing a much weaker ship, best bet is to makes sure you have power to the engines and jump out as quickly as possible.

A couple of the Yogscast guys, Sjin and Nilesy have done some FTL videos that were helpful to me early on:

Sjin: Sjin Plays: Faster Than Light #1 - YouTube

Nilesy: Nilesy Plays FTL: #1: Heal me up, Scottie! - YouTube

They both have done more than one series of it.
Thomkal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 08:19 PM   #1121
Wolfpack
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
Picked up Anti-Chamber and Endless Space yesterday, now probably going to get FTL.

Played Anti-Chamber yesterday and the statement of Portals without a plot is a reasonable description. It may be more accurate to say it's the most bizarre maze puzzle that you'll ever try to solve. If you like trying to find solutions to unusual problems and can appreciate the cleverness involved, it's a fun experience. Just be prepared for the fact that the normal 3-D world doesn't exist here. Things can and do change without warning and you will end up in places you weren't expecting when you first enter a space.
Wolfpack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 08:35 PM   #1122
SackAttack
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
da fuq is this trading card thing? Can someone explain it? I gather FM13 is giving them now, which means I will hopefully start getting a bunch for playing/prowess in that.

Steam's answer to Gamerscore, basically. You earn cards by playing participating games. You can use those cards to craft badges to increase your Steam level, or you can sell them on the marketplace to people who give a shit and use the money to buy more games.

I'm told that you can only earn something like half of the cards for any given game; if you want to finish crafting the badge, trading/purchasing the missing cards is what you gotta do.
SackAttack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 08:48 PM   #1123
MJ4H
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hog Country
Thomas Was Alone is awesome.
MJ4H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 04:03 AM   #1124
Icy
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Toledo - Spain
Tropico 4 with all DLC for $5.5, was waiting for the mac version in the mac store, but it's $30 there, can't resist to this offer, will play in bootcamp.
__________________


Last edited by Icy : 07-13-2013 at 04:04 AM.
Icy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 05:35 AM   #1125
Neon_Chaos
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Parañaque, Philippines
XCOM Enemy Unknown down to $19.99

edit: Vote to get it down to $10.
__________________
Come and see.

Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 07-13-2013 at 05:48 AM.
Neon_Chaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #1126
Wolfpack
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
Ended up with FTL and Just Cause 2. Hemmed and hawed over L4D games and Walking Dead, but passed. I'm just not a huge zombie fan like some are.
Wolfpack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 10:57 AM   #1127
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Batman: Arkham City with all the DLC for $7.50. I finally have a computer that will play it alright. I've heard to many good things about it to pass it up.

edit: For another hour anyway.
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam




Last edited by PilotMan : 07-13-2013 at 10:57 AM.
PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 10:58 AM   #1128
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
Ended up with FTL and Just Cause 2. Hemmed and hawed over L4D games and Walking Dead, but passed. I'm just not a huge zombie fan like some are.

Walking Dead is a good game in that it's much more like a choose your own adventure book than a true blood and gore zombie game. L4D does nothing for me, but I've really enjoyed Walking Dead.
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam



PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 11:04 AM   #1129
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
Ended up with FTL and Just Cause 2. Hemmed and hawed over L4D games and Walking Dead, but passed. I'm just not a huge zombie fan like some are.

For anyone considering the Left 4 Dead games you should skip the first and just get to. Almost all the content in Left 4 Dead has been added to 2. Left 4 Dead 2 has all the campaign maps from the original, the only thing I'm not sure on is if all the survival maps have made it over.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:10 PM   #1130
Radii
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by PilotMan View Post
Batman: Arkham City with all the DLC for $7.50. I finally have a computer that will play it alright. I've heard to many good things about it to pass it up.

edit: For another hour anyway.


well crap I missed that by 9 minutes. Do games ever hit flash sales twice during steam sales, or should I go ahead and grab it for $14.99?
Radii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:18 PM   #1131
Ryan S
Quarterback
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: London, England
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radii View Post
well crap I missed that by 9 minutes. Do games ever hit flash sales twice during steam sales, or should I go ahead and grab it for $14.99?

I would wait and make sure you have the game on your wishlist so you get email notification.
Ryan S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:21 PM   #1132
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radii View Post
well crap I missed that by 9 minutes. Do games ever hit flash sales twice during steam sales, or should I go ahead and grab it for $14.99?

Most flash deals come up more than once. Borderlands 2 is on its third sale.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:29 PM   #1133
Ryan S
Quarterback
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: London, England
The Batman games are regularly on sale somewhere, so I would definitely hold off for now.
Ryan S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:41 PM   #1134
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radii View Post
well crap I missed that by 9 minutes. Do games ever hit flash sales twice during steam sales, or should I go ahead and grab it for $14.99?

Coincidentally, Gamersgate is also running their summer sale right now, and they have the same game for $8.99 all day if you would rather go that route.

Batman Arkham City Game of the Year Edition - Buy and download on GamersGate
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam



PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 12:47 PM   #1135
SackAttack
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radii View Post
well crap I missed that by 9 minutes. Do games ever hit flash sales twice during steam sales, or should I go ahead and grab it for $14.99?

All the time. In the winter sale I think I saw a couple of the same games in the flash sale 3-4x.
SackAttack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 01:50 PM   #1136
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
If anyone is wondering about the new Tomb Raider I thought it was great. For other deals today a The Witcher 2 is the best RPG to come out in the last few years. It has a mod that one of the secs just put out to improve combat.

Hoping Incredipede wins this round of voting.

Last edited by mckerney : 07-13-2013 at 03:24 PM.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 02:14 PM   #1137
SackAttack
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
I voted for Incredipede.

FWIW Tomb Raider I-VI are all like $0.62 each at the moment.
SackAttack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:00 PM   #1138
PilotMan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
Great. Steam now tells you how much money you have spend during the sale season. I preferred not knowing.
__________________
He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

Like Steam?
Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam



PilotMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:05 PM   #1139
Izulde
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Picked up Witcher 2 for $5, so now have both Witcher 1 and Witcher 2, both on deep discount Steam sales. Might have had Witcher 2 for PC before, but now I have it for Mac as well if I didn't have W2 before.
__________________
2006 Golden Scribe Nominee
2006 Golden Scribe Winner
Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

Rookie Writer of the Year
Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)
Izulde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:10 PM   #1140
Matthean
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by mckerney View Post
For other deals today a The Witcher 2 is the best RPG to coffee out in the last few years.

You might want to think about drinking less.
__________________
Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.
Matthean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:11 PM   #1141
Izulde
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Has anyone played Mars Wars: Log?
__________________
2006 Golden Scribe Nominee
2006 Golden Scribe Winner
Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

Rookie Writer of the Year
Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)
Izulde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:17 PM   #1142
Thomkal
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA
Well I made the mistake...er delightful discovery of looking at my wishlist...and found my #1 game on it, Two Worlds 2, was now 80% off during the sale. Another $6 down the tubes...
Thomkal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:22 PM   #1143
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthean View Post
You might want to think about drinking less.

Dammit if I could strangle swype I would.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 03:29 PM   #1144
Radii
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by PilotMan View Post
Coincidentally, Gamersgate is also running their summer sale right now, and they have the same game for $8.99 all day if you would rather go that route.

Batman Arkham City Game of the Year Edition - Buy and download on GamersGate

Thanks I went ahead and picked it up there.
Radii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 04:19 PM   #1145
MizzouRah
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
I got Civ IV free due to Brave New World going on sale after it was released or something.

Anyway.. if anyone wants it, PM me your Steam ID.
MizzouRah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 05:36 PM   #1146
SackAttack
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by MizzouRah View Post
I got Civ IV free due to Brave New World going on sale after it was released or something.

Anyway.. if anyone wants it, PM me your Steam ID.

And then go purchase the Beyond the Sword expansion if you're gonna play this instead of BNW.
SackAttack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 06:17 PM   #1147
MizzouRah
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
Quote:
Originally Posted by SackAttack View Post
And then go purchase the Beyond the Sword expansion if you're gonna play this instead of BNW.

My neighbor still plays Civ IV.. crazy dude that guy is.
MizzouRah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 06:40 PM   #1148
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Any feedback on Stardrive or Kinetic Void?
__________________
If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :)
BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5
ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 06:45 PM   #1149
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
Any feedback on Stardrive or Kinetic Void?

I have Kinetic Void from backing the Kickstarter, it's still in alpha and when I last checked it out a couple months ago it didn't seem close to being in a really playable state yet.
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2013, 07:33 PM   #1150
SnowMan
High School Varsity
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington
Also would be interested in any feedback on Stardrive
SnowMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 25 (0 members and 25 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 PM.



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.