The Steam Thread - Page 27

Honolulu_Blue · 07-18-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

so, not sure I "get" XCOM. Do I take the plunge anyway?

Yes.

DaddyTorgo · 07-18-2013, 12:58 PM

Yes - it's a good game, especially at that price.

Arles · 07-18-2013, 01:21 PM

Pretty excited XCOM is down to $10. As I setup my cart, what are your guys' opinion on Magicka? It's on sale for $2.49.

Atocep · 07-18-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

As I setup my cart, what are your guys' opinion on Magicka? It's on sale for $2.49.

Can be a blast with other people. Single player is kind of average.

FrogMan · 07-18-2013, 02:07 PM

I'm also unsure about XCOM, mostly because I don't know much about the franchise, and I've already bought quite a few this time around...

Will think about it... which means I'll probably get it at some point tonight

FM

FrogMan · 07-18-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Stay far, far away from Infestation: Survivor Stories though, It's the WarZ rebranded.

What do you mean about that? I know nothing about WarZ but my son really wanted to get it.

After reading a bit about, I get the feeling it's pretty bad... Still, can it be that bad that even getting it for $3.74 is not worth it?

FM

Arles · 07-18-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Can be a blast with other people. Single player is kind of average.

Does the DLC help or do you just need the game? The game is $2.49 while the full collection (22 items + DLC) is $8.74.

FrogMan · 07-18-2013, 02:13 PM

silly question. If you had to choose between Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes for $13.59 or XCOM: Ennemy Unknown for $9.99, which would you pick?

I know they're not the same type, but they kinda, sorta fall in the turn based type game and I might be tempted by one of the two...

FM

Atocep · 07-18-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Does the DLC help or do you just need the game? The game is $2.49 while the full collection (22 items + DLC) is $8.74.

I haven't messed with the DLC yet. I've heard the Vietnam expansion is pretty good though.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-18-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

silly question. If you had to choose between Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes for $13.59 or XCOM: Ennemy Unknown for $9.99, which would you pick?

I know they're not the same type, but they kinda, sorta fall in the turn based type game and I might be tempted by one of the two...

FM

Hrmm... A tough call.

I think XCom is a better game overall. It's really quite excellent.

That said, at least for me, it lacks much in the way of re-playability. I played through it, really enjoyed it, beat it and then moved on.

I think Fallen Enchantress has much more re-playability, because it's more of a Civ type game and really allows for vast customization. So, if you end up liking it, you may get a little more bang for your buck.

If someone told me that I could only own one of the two, I'd still go with XCom.

MizzouRah · 07-18-2013, 02:44 PM

Shadowrun in 1 week!

MizzouRah · 07-18-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

so, not sure I "get" XCOM. Do I take the plunge anyway?

I didn't "get" it either and got it gifted to me awhile back.. fantastic game, turn based strategy game more or less.

mckerney · 07-18-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I haven't messed with the DLC yet. I've heard the Vietnam expansion is pretty good though.

One note on the DLC, if you're playing multiplayer you don't need to own the DLC to play it if the host of your game does. So if you and some friends are purchasing it to play together only one needs to buy the DLC pack.

mckerney · 07-18-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Shadowrun in 1 week!

Got my key yesterday!

Though I did notice the other day that I could be playing in a Dota tournament on the day Shadowrun comes out. I don't think it will happen because I think we'd need to win 3 games to play on the 25th and I've got no idea how good my team or the other teams playing are. Kind of hoping we don't make it through though.

Arles · 07-18-2013, 03:10 PM

Took the plunge and bought XCom and the Magicka collection for under $20 total.

DaddyTorgo · 07-18-2013, 03:21 PM

I think I finally had a Eureka! moment with XCom last night re: keeping my soldiers closer together in order to provide more firepower. I was spreading them too far apart before.

MizzouRah · 07-18-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Got my key yesterday!

Though I did notice the other day that I could be playing in a Dota tournament on the day Shadowrun comes out. I don't think it will happen because I think we'd need to win 3 games to play on the 25th and I've got no idea how good my team or the other teams playing are. Kind of hoping we don't make it through though.

I'm trying to clear out my schedule.

mckerney · 07-18-2013, 05:33 PM

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I'm trying to clear out my schedule.

Tellistto · 07-18-2013, 05:59 PM

I'm down for that game, ordered it a few weeks ago soon as I heard about it. Yes, I'm slow sometimes.

So far this Summer Sale, even though I'm limited to games I can play.

Torchlight II
Tropico 4
FM 2013
FE:LH

Kinda want to buy Simcity 4 Deluxe, but haven't done so.

frnk55 · 07-18-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tellistto

Kinda want to buy Simcity 4 Deluxe, but haven't done so.

6 bucks for Simcity 4. Well worth it!

Tellistto · 07-18-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frnk55

6 bucks for Simcity 4. Well worth it!

You talked me into it.

Abe Sargent · 07-18-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

This yera in PC gaming may be the most interesting. IF these mega crowd-sourced games, like WL2 or Shadowrun Returns are really good, it'll be a huge shot into the arm of crowdsourcing going forward. If no, it could be real problem.

MizzouRah · 07-18-2013, 08:44 PM

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Oh yeah!

cartman · 07-18-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I'm intrigued by Euro Truck Simulator 2. Anyone here bitten the bullet on it?

I guess no one has picked this one up. I probably am for only $10. Might be worth a flyer, based on the generally positive reviews I've seen.

Critch · 07-18-2013, 08:58 PM

I have Euro Truck Simulator 2. It's a lot better than a game about driving a truck around Europe has any right to be, but in the end it's still a driving game where you have to obey traffic laws. The business side is quite well done though.

If the thought of that doesnt put you off, you'll get your $10 worth of entertainment from it. I didnt regret buying it.

FrogMan · 07-18-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Hrmm... A tough call.

I think XCom is a better game overall. It's really quite excellent.

That said, at least for me, it lacks much in the way of re-playability. I played through it, really enjoyed it, beat it and then moved on.

I think Fallen Enchantress has much more re-playability, because it's more of a Civ type game and really allows for vast customization. So, if you end up liking it, you may get a little more bang for your buck.

If someone told me that I could only own one of the two, I'd still go with XCom.

thanks for your thoughts on the matter. For now, I'm kinda leaning toward XCOM, if only because it's the older of the two games, is cheaper, and is a space themed game. I've got quite a few fantasy type games for now, including Might and Magic Heroes VI that I just bought this Summer...

I'm just the price for FE:LH will fall even further in a future sale...

And I'm still holding out hope that we'll see Expeditions: Conquistador on sale before the 22nd.

FM

cartman · 07-18-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

I have Euro Truck Simulator 2. It's a lot better than a game about driving a truck around Europe has any right to be, but in the end it's still a driving game where you have to obey traffic laws. The business side is quite well done though.

If the thought of that doesnt put you off, you'll get your $10 worth of entertainment from it. I didnt regret buying it.

I pulled the trigger. Probably won't get to it until next week. Thanks for the info!

Shkspr · 07-18-2013, 10:49 PM

So I finally pulled the trigger on FM13, and within just a couple of hours of play, the game informed me that I'd managed to complete one of the rarest achievements possible in the game - a feat so amazing, that fewer than one in 200 Steam users had completed it.

Finished the tutorials.

FrogMan · 07-18-2013, 11:11 PM

not sure this has ever been mentioned but Death Rally for $2.49 is a fun little top down racer. I played quite a lot on my iPhone, bought it on Steam when it came out but was out of time and just gifted it to my son the other day. Looking forward to race him, or do some coop work with him...

FM

Radii · 07-18-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I pulled the trigger. Probably won't get to it until next week. Thanks for the info!

I did as well, based mainly on stuff I'd heard Critch mention about it in the past. I've driven a few routes, turned on a WTF podcast for it and that passed the time quite nicely.

SirFozzie · 07-19-2013, 01:16 AM

You Shadowrun folks are going to have to help me out.. I have a Shadowrun Returns Hack-A-Thon (IE, four hour session to build a module contest with a prize to the best module) at GenCon, and with the delayed release, I only have three weeks to learn a lot of the stuff about the editor before GenCon.

So you may be asked to be beta testers as I try the system out,

Grover · 07-19-2013, 01:57 AM

Batman: Arkham City might be the best $5.99 I've spent this year.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-19-2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

thanks for your thoughts on the matter. For now, I'm kinda leaning toward XCOM, if only because it's the older of the two games, is cheaper, and is a space themed game. I've got quite a few fantasy type games for now, including Might and Magic Heroes VI that I just bought this Summer...

I'm just the price for FE:LH will fall even further in a future sale...

And I'm still holding out hope that we'll see Expeditions: Conquistador on sale before the 22nd.

FM

My pleasure, sensei.

Draft Dodger · 07-19-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Batman: Arkham City might be the best $5.99 I've spent this year.

I've been a little disappointed, to be honest. I mean, the production values for both Arkham games are terrific but I already feel like it's repetitive and I'm not all that far into it. Kicking the crap out of henchmen was fun for a while, but after a while it's like "gee, another fight?"

Bobble · 07-19-2013, 11:29 AM

I have a few Guest Pass: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad - GOTY and Guest Pass: Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. This pass only gives you access to the full version of this game for a limited time period. The Heroes of Stalingrad passes say 3-day pass. I presume the Ostfront ones are the same but they don't specifically say. Anyone want?

scooter · 07-19-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii

I did as well, based mainly on stuff I'd heard Critch mention about it in the past. I've driven a few routes, turned on a WTF podcast for it and that passed the time quite nicely.

I'm interested in this one as well. Where did you find the WTF podcast? I'd also like to hear some more of your impressions of the game (or anyone else's for that matter).

mckerney · 07-19-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

What do you mean about that? I know nothing about WarZ but my son really wanted to get it.

After reading a bit about, I get the feeling it's pretty bad... Still, can it be that bad that even getting it for $3.74 is not worth it?

FM

Hadn't seen this until now, but everything I've seen about it has it being a terrible game. On Metacritic is has a 20 with a 1.5 user score, and if you want to see for yourself...

It was likely quickly made with the title The War Z so people would confuse it with DayZ, though the name change came after the trademark for the name was denied after being too close to World War Z.

Izulde · 07-19-2013, 01:40 PM

Same question re: Fable 3 I had with DA:O - Is there enough in the way of modding to make PC pickup worthwhile if I already have the console version? Initial googling says no.

Izulde · 07-19-2013, 01:43 PM

Also, anyone played the Monaco heist game?

gstelmack · 07-19-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I think XCom is a better game overall. It's really quite excellent.

That said, at least for me, it lacks much in the way of re-playability. I played through it, really enjoyed it, beat it and then moved on.

The issue with X-Com right now is the teleporting aliens issue. I had one game destroyed by this (battleship capture-the-overlord mission) where I was eking it out, then an alien teleported into the middle of a group and destroyed what chance I had left, and another one ruined when aliens appeared in a cleared area (played the "wake-up" cutscene with them gutting a body everything).

The thing to remember is XCom is not a tactical combat game, it's a chess game. Trying to use flanking tactics will just wake enemies up and make it near impossible to win, you have to advance, destroy the aliens you wake up, then advance more. As a chess game, it's pretty fun, once you figure out it's a chess game and play it that way rather than trying to use "good tactics". The problem is, every now and then the aliens get to violate all the rules through the teleport bug, and it's no fun playing chess against someone who cheats.

This issue actually got worse for me (I didn't have the bad cases until the latest patch), and I've put the game away until they release a patch that fixes it. To me it's a game-killing bug, which is disappointing because the rest is so very well done. One little thing just kills it for me.

Radii · 07-19-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter

Where did you find the WTF podcast?

I was just listening to itunes while playing. There is some kind of integrated radio stuff but I'm not terribly interested in that.

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I'd also like to hear some more of your impressions of the game (or anyone else's for that matter).

So far all I've done are some "quick jobs" which involve driving from city to city for someone else to earn cash. The reviews I've read make it sound like the business side of things once you can start to buy your own trucks is well done, but I'm still a ways from getting to that I think.

I go through phases where I like to listen to a lot of podcasts, and I watch a ton of league of legends matches, but if teams I'm not quite as interested in are playing I like having something light and somewhat mindless to do. This game seems like it will fill that need for a little while at least. Perhaps once I get further into it I'll find there's more there, but for now that's where it sits for me.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-19-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

The issue with X-Com right now is the teleporting aliens issue. I had one game destroyed by this (battleship capture-the-overlord mission) where I was eking it out, then an alien teleported into the middle of a group and destroyed what chance I had left, and another one ruined when aliens appeared in a cleared area (played the "wake-up" cutscene with them gutting a body everything).

The thing to remember is XCom is not a tactical combat game, it's a chess game. Trying to use flanking tactics will just wake enemies up and make it near impossible to win, you have to advance, destroy the aliens you wake up, then advance more. As a chess game, it's pretty fun, once you figure out it's a chess game and play it that way rather than trying to use "good tactics". The problem is, every now and then the aliens get to violate all the rules through the teleport bug, and it's no fun playing chess against someone who cheats.

This issue actually got worse for me (I didn't have the bad cases until the latest patch), and I've put the game away until they release a patch that fixes it. To me it's a game-killing bug, which is disappointing because the rest is so very well done. One little thing just kills it for me.

I played through the entire game and never really ran across this issue. Maybe I finished it before the latest patch came up and made it worse. I heard about this happening a few times here and there, but nothing systemic or game breaking. Then again, not sure when the latest patch was released.

That said, I do agree that the game does "punish" you in a way for trying to flank enemies or advance quickly because it "pops" a set of aliens on you.

mckerney · 07-19-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Also, anyone played the Monaco heist game?

It's probably the most fun I've had with a co-op game. Still alright but not nearly as good on its own. Fairly unique in that it can actually get harder the more people you are playing with.

FrogMan · 07-19-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Hadn't seen this until now, but everything I've seen about it has it being a terrible game. On Metacritic is has a 20 with a 1.5 user score, and if you want to see for yourself...

It was likely quickly made with the title The War Z so people would confuse it with DayZ, though the name change came after the trademark for the name was denied after being too close to World War Z.

yeah, my son decided against getting it after reading all the bad reviews. The one I think I had heard about was the DayZ mod for Arma II. But then, to play that one with all the textures, you need to buy the complete version...

FM

mckerney · 07-19-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

yeah, my son decided against getting it after reading all the bad reviews. The one I think I had heard about was the DayZ mod for Arma II. But then, to play that one with all the textures, you need to buy the complete version...

FM

There is a stand alone of DayZ coming out, though no release date yet.

DaddyTorgo · 07-19-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

yeah, my son decided against getting it after reading all the bad reviews. The one I think I had heard about was the DayZ mod for Arma II. But then, to play that one with all the textures, you need to buy the complete version...

FM

Yeah, wait for the standalone DayZ game - it's going to be frigging awesome I think.

mckerney · 07-19-2013, 03:29 PM

Civ V: Brave New World $21 with voucher code listed on page.

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/e...-new-world-na/

FrogMan · 07-19-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

There is a stand alone of DayZ coming out, though no release date yet.

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Yeah, wait for the standalone DayZ game - it's going to be frigging awesome I think.

thanks for the insight guys, talked with him about it and that's what he'll do. It's not as if he's running of games to try with this sale anyway

FM

Mota · 07-19-2013, 04:19 PM

Hey Bobble, if you still have that Civ IV code would you mind sending it over to me? One of my good friends just signed up on Steam and he's a big Civ I-II fan (hasn't played games in a long time). Thanks!

Bobble · 07-19-2013, 07:06 PM

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Hey Bobble, if you still have that Civ IV code would you mind sending it over to me? One of my good friends just signed up on Steam and he's a big Civ I-II fan (hasn't played games in a long time). Thanks!

I wish I could. There were two Civ IV's in my inventory. I thought, "I'll just add one to my library and I'll still have one to give away." When I added it, they both went to my library. The second one says "not available on your current platform." I think maybe it was one PC and one Mac. Sorry to yank your chain. Would you like a Guest Pass: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad - GOTY instead?

edit: Top of page! Don't I get a FOFC trading card for that? All I need is FOFC: Dola and I'll have the set!

07-18-2013, 01:21 PM	#1303
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Pretty excited XCOM is down to $10. As I setup my cart, what are your guys' opinion on Magicka? It's on sale for $2.49. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-18-2013, 02:07 PM	#1305
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I'm also unsure about XCOM, mostly because I don't know much about the franchise, and I've already bought quite a few this time around... Will think about it... which means I'll probably get it at some point tonight FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-18-2013, 02:13 PM	#1308
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	silly question. If you had to choose between Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes for $13.59 or XCOM: Ennemy Unknown for $9.99, which would you pick? I know they're not the same type, but they kinda, sorta fall in the turn based type game and I might be tempted by one of the two... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-18-2013, 03:10 PM	#1315
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Took the plunge and bought XCom and the Magicka collection for under $20 total. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-18-2013, 05:59 PM	#1319
Tellistto College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Whitman, MA	I'm down for that game, ordered it a few weeks ago soon as I heard about it. Yes, I'm slow sometimes. So far this Summer Sale, even though I'm limited to games I can play. Torchlight II Tropico 4 FM 2013 FE:LH Kinda want to buy Simcity 4 Deluxe, but haven't done so. __________________ FOOL - Ann Arbor Winged Lingerines FOOLX - Portland Axemen Hattrick - Fizzle United (222968)

07-18-2013, 12:58 PM	#1302
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Yes - it's a good game, especially at that price.

07-18-2013, 02:44 PM	#1311
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Shadowrun in 1 week!

07-18-2013, 03:21 PM	#1316
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I think I finally had a Eureka! moment with XCom last night re: keeping my soldiers closer together in order to provide more firepower. I was spreading them too far apart before.

07-18-2013, 08:58 PM	#1325
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I have Euro Truck Simulator 2. It's a lot better than a game about driving a truck around Europe has any right to be, but in the end it's still a driving game where you have to obey traffic laws. The business side is quite well done though. If the thought of that doesnt put you off, you'll get your $10 worth of entertainment from it. I didnt regret buying it.

07-18-2013, 10:49 PM	#1328
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	So I finally pulled the trigger on FM13, and within just a couple of hours of play, the game informed me that I'd managed to complete one of the rarest achievements possible in the game - a feat so amazing, that fewer than one in 200 Steam users had completed it. Finished the tutorials.

07-18-2013, 11:11 PM	#1329
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	not sure this has ever been mentioned but Death Rally for $2.49 is a fun little top down racer. I played quite a lot on my iPhone, bought it on Steam when it came out but was out of time and just gifted it to my son the other day. Looking forward to race him, or do some coop work with him... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

07-19-2013, 01:16 AM	#1331
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	You Shadowrun folks are going to have to help me out.. I have a Shadowrun Returns Hack-A-Thon (IE, four hour session to build a module contest with a prize to the best module) at GenCon, and with the delayed release, I only have three weeks to learn a lot of the stuff about the editor before GenCon. So you may be asked to be beta testers as I try the system out, __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-19-2013, 01:57 AM	#1332
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07-19-2013, 11:29 AM	#1335
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	Free guest passes. FREE! I have a few Guest Pass: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad - GOTY and Guest Pass: Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. This pass only gives you access to the full version of this game for a limited time period. The Heroes of Stalingrad passes say 3-day pass. I presume the Ostfront ones are the same but they don't specifically say. Anyone want?

07-19-2013, 01:40 PM	#1338
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Same question re: Fable 3 I had with DA:O - Is there enough in the way of modding to make PC pickup worthwhile if I already have the console version? Initial googling says no. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

07-19-2013, 01:43 PM	#1339
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Also, anyone played the Monaco heist game? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

07-19-2013, 03:29 PM	#1347
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Civ V: Brave New World $21 with voucher code listed on page. http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/e...-new-world-na/

07-19-2013, 04:19 PM	#1349
Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	Hey Bobble, if you still have that Civ IV code would you mind sending it over to me? One of my good friends just signed up on Steam and he's a big Civ I-II fan (hasn't played games in a long time). Thanks!

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