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Old 11-17-2016, 08:20 AM   #251
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So now word comes that he's looking at Nikki Haley as Secretary Of State. Put Cruz in as Attorney General to go along with that, and if the President-Elect is to be believed, we'd have a Secretary Of State who is "an embarrassment" and an Attorney General who is a serial liar.

Come on, that was last episode. If he picks them they'll turn and no longer be heels.

A lot of this transition makes more sense if seen as a wrestling story line.
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Old 11-17-2016, 09:43 AM   #252
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Wait, Nikki Haley?! I thought he couldn't stand her. Especially after the SC primary.
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Old 11-17-2016, 09:45 AM   #253
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Although at the end she said she was glad to talk to him again. Maybe instead enabling these people, when you call them out on their bullshit, don't then make with the niceties. Tell them to go to hell and they're not welcome back on your show.

I don't know, I appreciate some rationale discord that doesn't dissolve into Crossfire screaming matches. I thought she called him out on it pretty fiercly without turning a real discussion into a sideshow.

Granted, it seems most American's aren't bright enough to believe anything that isn't coated in hyperbole, high volume and red(or orange) faces.

Sigh.
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Old 11-17-2016, 09:50 AM   #254
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I don't know, I appreciate some rationale discord that doesn't dissolve into Crossfire screaming matches. I thought she called him out on it pretty fiercly without turning a real discussion into a sideshow.

Granted, it seems most American's aren't bright enough to believe anything that isn't coated in hyperbole, high volume and red(or orange) faces.

Sigh.

I guess the argument is, are there things that are so abhorrent that allowing "equal time" or trying to respond to them with rational arguments just ends up adding legitimacy to what they're saying.

I think her response in the discussion itself was correct and measured, but there's no reason to exchange pleasantries at the end when what they said 10 seconds ago appeared to sicken you.

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Old 11-17-2016, 09:58 AM   #255
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I thought she dismissed him out right and he didn't challenge her response. Don't believe more screaming was needed.

Then again, I look at who we elected and I'm conflicted.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:13 AM   #256
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Wait, Nikki Haley?! I thought he couldn't stand her. Especially after the SC primary.
He got so irritated with her that she had to drop a "bless your heart" on him.

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Old 11-17-2016, 12:37 PM   #257
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So now word comes that he's looking at Nikki Haley as Secretary Of State.

God in Heaven above, I just nearly threw up.
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Old 11-17-2016, 12:39 PM   #258
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God in Heaven above, I just nearly threw up.
I knew you'd love that.
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Old 11-17-2016, 02:44 PM   #259
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Hey, Ann Coulter approves at least!


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Old 11-17-2016, 02:50 PM   #260
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I feel like there's needs to an Elizabeth Warren joke somewhere.
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Old 11-17-2016, 02:52 PM   #261
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God in Heaven above, I just nearly threw up.

Nice to see Trump make your head explode.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:05 PM   #262
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Now it's Mitt Romney being considered for Secy of State. Better than the alternatives I suppose.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:06 PM   #263
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Now it's Mitt Romney being considered for Secy of State. Better than the alternatives I suppose.

That can't be right. Both loath each other.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:30 PM   #264
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That can't be right. Both loath each other.
How on earth does anyone claim to know how Trump feels about anyone???
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:32 PM   #265
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Now it's Mitt Romney being considered for Secy of State. Better than the alternatives I suppose.

It really feels like the press is getting played by people in the Trump camp just throwing out names for attention.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:37 PM   #266
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Pretty much any of the politicians out there will swallow their pride, waffle and take any job Trump feeds them.

Trump forgets everything he says and his feelings for people/things once 5 minutes have elapsed.

So I won't be surprised by anything.
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:38 PM   #267
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It really feels like the press is getting played by people in the Trump camp just throwing out names for attention.

And yeah, I think the press coverage of Trump now is even worse than the election. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I still want to trust what I hear from the media, even if I don't like it. Right now I have to take everything they say with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:05 PM   #268
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Lamar Alexander, who chairs the Health Committee, says it will take years to repeal and replace Obamacare.

That should go over well.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:28 PM   #269
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If it's any more than 4 years, it won't happen... because Trump will be losing re-election bigly in that case.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:59 PM   #270
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Now it's Mitt Romney being considered for Secy of State. Better than the alternatives I suppose.

Now THAT news makes me think they're just fuckin' with people
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:46 PM   #271
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If it's any more than 4 years, it won't happen... because Trump will be losing re-election bigly in that case.

Said the person who said Clinton would win
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:05 PM   #272
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Now THAT news makes me think they're just fuckin' with people

It makes me think that Trump might try to spend the whole 4 years in campaign mode.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:40 PM   #273
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Michael Flynn is reportedly being offered the National Security Adviser job.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:50 PM   #274
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Trump killing it with foreign leaders. This is from his call with the British PM.

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Old 11-17-2016, 07:35 PM   #275
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It makes me think that Trump might try to spend the whole 4 years in campaign mode.

His wanting to sleep at Trump Tower and continue to hold big rallies hadn't already made you think that?

Trump doesn't want to be President. He wants to run for President. Forever.

Let other people do the actual work.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:00 PM   #276
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Trump killing it with foreign leaders. This is from his call with the British PM.

She could vacation here? Maybe at one of his hotels even.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:29 PM   #277
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Gonna start calling him President Rapunzel if he stays holed up in that tower.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:48 PM   #278
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So about that swamp...

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Old 11-18-2016, 07:06 AM   #279
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Reports are coming in that Sessions has been offered the Attorney General job.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:12 AM   #280
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And Flynn for Security Advisor, Mike Pompeo for CIA.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:29 AM   #281
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NSA gets paid by Turkey and Russia.

That should be a big deal.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:36 AM   #282
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And Flynn for Security Advisor, Mike Pompeo for CIA.

At least the new CIA head has only said this about Muslims and terrorist attacks

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Old 11-18-2016, 08:39 AM   #283
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I lack confidence in our collective ability to correctly assess what is and is not a big deal. Seems like we are much more likely to focus on something Jeff Sessions may or may not have said, perhaps in jest perhaps not, thirty years ago.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:55 AM   #284
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Crap like this is uber annoying. Somebody is just throwing around taxpayer dollars and thinks that will somehow improve things. The lack of oversight here is appalling. This isn't a president thing. This is a total lack of accountability.

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What a shock that a 3rd world investment opportunity resulted in a 0% return. Wow.

I hear Africa is the new hotbed of global investment. I think I can get you in.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:36 AM   #286
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Pretty clear at this point that we are not getting pre-2008 Trump.
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:03 AM   #288
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I don't understand why Trump would be loyal to establishment Republicans, but there's a great many things I don't understand about Trump.

I guess it could be worse. My order of preference for a Trump presidency:

1. Independent maverick who makes rational decisions that annoy both parties.
2. Tool of the Republican party
3. Independent maverick who does irrational and crazy shit.

Looking like #2 so far.

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Old 11-18-2016, 11:07 AM   #289
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I don't understand why Trump would be loyal to establishment Republicans, but there's a great many things I don't understand about Trump.

I guess it could be worse. My order of preference for a Trump presidency:

1. Independent maverick who makes rational decisions that annoy both parties.
2. Tool of the Republican party
3. Independent maverick who does irrational and crazy shit.

Looking like #2 so far.

I'd say looking like 2.5 so far with equal chance of going to 2 and 3.
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I don't know that it's 2 at all -- would any of these folks have been offered these positions under a traditional Republican?
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I don't know that it's 2 at all -- would any of these folks have been offered these positions under a traditional Republican?

Glad somebody else was scratching their head about that.
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Old 11-18-2016, 12:12 PM   #292
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I don't know that it's 2 at all -- would any of these folks have been offered these positions under a traditional Republican?

Preibus. And I hedged with my 2.5 comment based on who else we might get.
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I don't know that it's 2 at all -- would any of these folks have been offered these positions under a traditional Republican?

That doesn't mean that the people he's picked aren't associated with the traditional Republican leadership. It's the same team, just a different group of leaders. It's not like he's going out there and completely upsetting the apple cart to find people that don't fit the traditional mold.
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Old 11-18-2016, 12:23 PM   #294
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Pompeo and Priebus are pretty normal picks, but Sessions, Bannon and Flynn would have no chance in any other GOP admin.
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Old 11-18-2016, 12:28 PM   #295
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We need an Apprentice: Capital Hill, with the winner getting to be Secretary of State! And then a follow up for the Supreme Court next season!
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We need an Apprentice: Capital Hill, with the winner getting to be Secretary of State! And then a follow up for the Supreme Court next season!

Couldn't really turn out any worse than what we've been getting the past few years.
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Sessions is bad news for marijuana legalization in a lot of states.
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It's also clear that Trump isn't at all concerned about distancing himself from ties to Putin.
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Sessions is bad news for marijuana legalization in a lot of states.

But Republicans love letting the States decide things!
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From what I can tell judging by my Facebook feed, the most immediate impact of the election has been to make the nutball[*] Republicans on my friends list even more stupid than they were in the months leading up to the election. They seem to have entered some mental zone of hysteria where winning an election means that everyone else has to shut the hell up and do what they say.


[*] I mean this in the sense of the chest-pounding idiots, not the rank-and-file Republicans who are, you know, normal people who believe in things like states' rights, small federal government, and the free-market economy. You know the guys I mean. They likely believe that automotive innovation peaked with 1970's pick up trucks, may or may not have a Confederate flag hanging up somewhere in their house (but they've definitely considered it, either way), and their most pressing ethical conundrum is whether or not they can finally wear their .45 pistol on their belt holster to church on Sunday morning instead of the mini-.38 ACP pea-shooter they've traditionally carried strapped to their ankle so as not to offend the old biddies.
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