WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 75

dubb93 · 05-11-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I'll trust you, but right now it seems unjust

Without any inside knowledge the rules of this game and the write-up prior to the rules post clearly states that the miners are the attackers and the wolves are the defenders. Surely if the miners did not attack the wolves would not have to defend.

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:02 PM

But that doesn't really add up in the scheme of things. The point is each side determined arbitrarily from knowing what the other will do how many soldiers to send. Using that logic you lay out, if we sent in 1, the wolves could only use 1 and keep the rest behind to use later.

Poli · 05-11-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Remind me to answer this after teh game. I think revelation will help here.

Allow me to shed light on this. This is the mathematical formula for the whole game.

% villagers have any control over game = 2%
% sympathizers can do what they want = 47%
% Abe had already predetermined results = 51%

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:03 PM

If they sent out 1000 soldiers, they should have simply been out there, doing nothing. It's no different than leftover surviving soldiers staying out there doing nothing after the battle.

Passacaglia · 05-11-2009, 09:03 PM

An hour, seriously? I didn't read the rules of this thang, but I assumed based on the way you guys were talking that deadline was now.

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

An hour, seriously? I didn't read the rules of this thang, but I assumed based on the way you guys were talking that deadline was now.

Yeah, and now my wife will be upset when she comes home and I tell her we need to wait until the results are posted for us to go out.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I'll trust you, but right now it seems unjust

Poli · 05-11-2009, 09:06 PM

I'll buy hattrick subscriptions for anyone that votes out lathum first in the next game.

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Driving the waambulence is fun. It only sucks when you hit a red light and people like you start mocking us!

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

I'll buy hattrick subscriptions for anyone that votes out lathum first in the next game.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:07 PM

wtf did I do to deserve that?

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

I'll buy hattrick subscriptions for anyone that votes out lathum first in the next game.

I'm adding an additional role to my next game just for Lathum. You are Achilles- you are invincible from night kills and being lynched, except one vote from Poli results in your instant death.

Poli · 05-11-2009, 09:09 PM

LOLs @ Lathum, he thots I was seerius.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:11 PM

If I am a wolf Poli buys it first night next game

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:12 PM

Hopefully he isn't a fellow wolf.

Poli · 05-11-2009, 09:12 PM

Dear Lathums,

I haz your shortstop. I trades him too u cheap.

Passacaglia · 05-11-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

wtf did I do to deserve that?

you dissed the jalapeno popper doritos

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:14 PM

I keep seeing those doritos, but haven't tried them yet. Are they any good?

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

Dear Lathums,

I haz your shortstop. I trades him too u cheap.

hmmm, enchanting.

but I dont think u seerious

Passacaglia · 05-11-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I keep seeing those doritos, but haven't tried them yet. Are they any good?

yes and no

Danny · 05-11-2009, 09:15 PM

Good coming it, bad coming out?

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

you dissed the jalapeno popper doritos

those things are fookin foul yo

Passacaglia · 05-11-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Good coming it, bad coming out?

yes according to me, no according to lathum

then again, i haven't been eating them for that long, but i will keep you updated on how they come out

Poli · 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

hmmm, enchanting.

but I dont think u seerious

oh noes, u seen thru mah disguise!

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

oh noes, u seen thru mah disguise!

boosted

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:02 PM

I am about to run Stage Three

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:07 PM

You think you spy an opening in the Sympathizer defenses and send out 2572 miners to exploit it.

However, as they arrive in a middle area, you hear the sound of several small planes flying through the area. They drop bombs on the miners and force them back, killing a few.

Don Chafin and his Sympathizers have won Stage Three.

Daddy Torgo has been killed by the shrapnel from a bomb.

Stage Four begins tomorrow morning at 9:00 am

dubb93 · 05-11-2009, 10:09 PM

At what point do we decide that labor can't win?

PurdueBrad · 05-11-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

At what point do we decide that labor can't win?

Ummm, yeah, we just went 0-3 today and, from what I've picked up, they've lost no soldiers.

I'll take the heat here, as I thought 2500 was a decent number.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 10:10 PM

MMUUUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Danny · 05-11-2009, 10:12 PM

Guess we should have went small, but who knew they would have all these crazy actions.

dubb93 · 05-11-2009, 10:12 PM

Seriously, you guys are getting owned by the rub one out guy.

PurdueBrad · 05-11-2009, 10:13 PM

Although, with all these tricks up their sleeves, I'm thinking that the wolves must not have very many soldiers, otherwise what actual chance did we have?

Danny · 05-11-2009, 10:13 PM

So Abe from the writeup, I am guessing we get to reuse some of those soldiers?

Poli · 05-11-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Allow me to shed light on this. This is the mathematical formula for the whole game.

% villagers have any control over game = 2%
% sympathizers can do what they want = 47%
% Abe had already predetermined results = 51%

QFT

PurdueBrad · 05-11-2009, 10:15 PM

So have they shot their wad here or do bad things come in threes (or more)? I guess I would think that they probably have at least one more special attack and then we'll get to their soldiers. Maybe they got one special attack for every village they kept us from and have a very limited number of soldiers? As I said above, I'm guessing then that they don't have a lot of soldiers in order to keep the game balanced.

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So Abe from the writeup, I am guessing we get to reuse some of those soldiers?

The Battle is ongoing. The Stages are just ways of breaking things up for game purposes. The soliders are still there hacking and coughing from the poison gas in one place, and dodging missles in another, while whatever troops are sent in future stages will be active.s

So yes, most of the soldiers will return, few will die to the bombs. But their return will be long after the Battle has been determined one way or the other.

Hopefully that makes sense. All of this is basically going on at the same time, only separated by minutes.

PurdueBrad · 05-11-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So Abe from the writeup, I am guessing we get to reuse some of those soldiers?

I didn't think so according to the rules but maybe you're right. That would be huge.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Seriously, you guys are getting owned by the rub one out guy.

like were not all that guy

PurdueBrad · 05-11-2009, 10:16 PM

Oh, guess not, so it sounds like they are spent. Hmmm

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:20 PM

In case you think I am making this stuff up, when Bill Blizzard, leader of the miners in the Battle, was put on trial for insurrection (and in the same courthouse as Jim Brown was tried, fyi), the defense presented an unexploded bomb to prove how far Chafin and the government went.

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:20 PM

Pic of Chafin's men. Note the machine guns.

Chief Rum · 05-11-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

I'll buy hattrick subscriptions for anyone that votes out lathum first in the next game.

That will be expensive.

Chief Rum · 05-11-2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

At what point do we decide that labor can't win?

TBH, I about gave up around the third or fourth "event" a few days back. I don't feel like I am determining anything, so I'm just along for the ride.

Abe Sargent · 05-11-2009, 10:27 PM

The coal companies directly paid the salaries of around 40 of the police officers working under Chafin in Logan County prior to the Battle of Blair Mountain

dubb93 · 05-11-2009, 10:29 PM

I half expect Barkeep to send out 5000 troops tomarrow only to be destroyed by the Smog Monster.

Lathum · 05-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Poli · 05-11-2009, 10:40 PM

The smart money's on the Trash Heap.

dubb93 · 05-11-2009, 10:57 PM

Chafin(pictured below) plots his next move. Will it be The Smog Monster or The Trash Heap?

Glengoyne · 05-11-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Allright we gotta win the next one, as our margin of error is rapidly eroding. Besides, we need to kill a wolf to see how Daddy Torgo fares in a random sampling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

...

Don Chafin and his Sympathizers have won Stage Three.

Daddy Torgo has been killed by the shrapnel from a bomb.

...

Who Knew?

Allright. This tells me that Danny and PB are the wolves.

I mean I can't be wrong about everything....Or can I?

05-11-2009, 09:06 PM	#3708
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'll buy hattrick subscriptions for anyone that votes out lathum first in the next game. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-11-2009, 09:09 PM	#3713
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	LOLs @ Lathum, he thots I was seerius. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-11-2009, 09:12 PM	#3716
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dear Lathums, I haz your shortstop. I trades him too u cheap. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-11-2009, 10:02 PM	#3726
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I am about to run Stage Three __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-11-2009, 10:07 PM	#3727
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	You think you spy an opening in the Sympathizer defenses and send out 2572 miners to exploit it. However, as they arrive in a middle area, you hear the sound of several small planes flying through the area. They drop bombs on the miners and force them back, killing a few. Don Chafin and his Sympathizers have won Stage Three. Daddy Torgo has been killed by the shrapnel from a bomb. Stage Four begins tomorrow morning at 9:00 am __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-11-2009, 09:02 PM	#3702
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	But that doesn't really add up in the scheme of things. The point is each side determined arbitrarily from knowing what the other will do how many soldiers to send. Using that logic you lay out, if we sent in 1, the wolves could only use 1 and keep the rest behind to use later.

05-11-2009, 09:03 PM	#3704
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If they sent out 1000 soldiers, they should have simply been out there, doing nothing. It's no different than leftover surviving soldiers staying out there doing nothing after the battle.

05-11-2009, 09:03 PM	#3705
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	An hour, seriously? I didn't read the rules of this thang, but I assumed based on the way you guys were talking that deadline was now.

05-11-2009, 09:07 PM	#3711
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wtf did I do to deserve that?

05-11-2009, 09:11 PM	#3714
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If I am a wolf Poli buys it first night next game

05-11-2009, 09:12 PM	#3715
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Hopefully he isn't a fellow wolf.

05-11-2009, 09:14 PM	#3718
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I keep seeing those doritos, but haven't tried them yet. Are they any good?

05-11-2009, 09:15 PM	#3721
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Good coming it, bad coming out?

05-11-2009, 10:09 PM	#3728
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	At what point do we decide that labor can't win?

05-11-2009, 10:10 PM	#3730
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	MMUUUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

05-11-2009, 10:12 PM	#3731
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Guess we should have went small, but who knew they would have all these crazy actions.

05-11-2009, 10:12 PM	#3732
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Seriously, you guys are getting owned by the rub one out guy.

05-11-2009, 10:13 PM	#3733
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Although, with all these tricks up their sleeves, I'm thinking that the wolves must not have very many soldiers, otherwise what actual chance did we have?

05-11-2009, 10:13 PM	#3734
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So Abe from the writeup, I am guessing we get to reuse some of those soldiers?

05-11-2009, 10:15 PM	#3736
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	So have they shot their wad here or do bad things come in threes (or more)? I guess I would think that they probably have at least one more special attack and then we'll get to their soldiers. Maybe they got one special attack for every village they kept us from and have a very limited number of soldiers? As I said above, I'm guessing then that they don't have a lot of soldiers in order to keep the game balanced.

05-11-2009, 10:16 PM	#3740
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Oh, guess not, so it sounds like they are spent. Hmmm

05-11-2009, 10:20 PM	#3741
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	In case you think I am making this stuff up, when Bill Blizzard, leader of the miners in the Battle, was put on trial for insurrection (and in the same courthouse as Jim Brown was tried, fyi), the defense presented an unexploded bomb to prove how far Chafin and the government went. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-11-2009, 10:20 PM	#3742
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Pic of Chafin's men. Note the machine guns. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-11-2009, 10:27 PM	#3745
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	The coal companies directly paid the salaries of around 40 of the police officers working under Chafin in Logan County prior to the Battle of Blair Mountain __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-11-2009, 10:29 PM	#3746
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I half expect Barkeep to send out 5000 troops tomarrow only to be destroyed by the Smog Monster.

05-11-2009, 10:34 PM	#3747
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ

05-11-2009, 10:40 PM	#3748
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	The smart money's on the Trash Heap. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-11-2009, 10:57 PM	#3749
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Chafin(pictured below) plots his next move. Will it be The Smog Monster or The Trash Heap? Last edited by dubb93 : 05-11-2009 at 11:00 PM.

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