WW XCIX: Seville High, Book Two: The Janitor Lives!!! Game Over - Blakekin Win!!!! - Page 11

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 03:50 PM

As far as UTR goes Norm hasn't contributed much either. I remember most of his posts being RP which is fine, but they have been spaced out and lacking substance.

Any thoughts, Norm?

JAG · 07-22-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am not saying that I am the only person that can claim what I claimed. If there are others with the same power as I have claimed, remember it is not out of the range of the rules to have two people on any given day with the same role.

It took me a bit to piece it together, but it sounds like he's claiming the Drug Abuser role here and that it came up Paranoid:

Quote:

Drug Abuser– Each even numbered night, has a 50% chance to gain a villager role until the end of the next even numbered chapter. So, for example, could randomly become a Sleuth for a chapter, or a Martyr, or a Diseased, etc. Does not work every night, and you will know who you become, if it works. This can give you a role not in the game

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 03:56 PM

That does make sense, JAG.

JAG · 07-22-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

And I said - then vote for me. How can I defend myself at this point? You've said what you've seen. I don't know what to say about it. What do you want me to say? It's not like we have anything other than 2 days of voting, one of which was a throwaway rp vote. I'm not sure what you're looking for me to say here.

You say 'then vote for me', but I'd rather not vote for you if you are really a villager because that doesn't help us. You've given your explanation for your vote as I did for mine (mine wasn't too hot either). I've been trying to figure out the rest of the puzzle as best I can so even if I get voted off I will have hopefully helped the rest of the village make some connections they may not have made. If you have time, try to post something we haven't thought of or could be overlooking if you see something, or call someone out if you think they're out in left field or give some support to an idea you think makes sense.

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 04:06 PM

I'm not ready to give NTN a pass because that's a fakeable role, but that would seem to fit his response.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 04:16 PM

As of 505:

ntn 3 - EF (443), clap (459), Jackal (475)
JAG 1 - PB (446)
EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497)
hoops 1 - nfg (473)
nfg 1 - ntn (485)

No vote yet:
TheNorm
Lathum
Schmidty

JAG · 07-22-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm not ready to give NTN a pass because that's a fakeable role, but that would seem to fit his response.

Any role claim is going to have to be taken with a grain of salt because the Blakekin know the list of roles in the game and there are supposedly a number of extras. Drug abuser is a potentially powerful role if it comes up something useful like seer, or it could be useless if no role or a useless roles come up. I agree ntn shouldn't necessarily get a free pass as a result of claiming the role, but it seems like the kind of interesting role that involves dice rolls (or maybe coin flips) Abe would include, so I'd be less inclined to vote for him as a result of this, though I would be more inclined due to his vote for nfg since I don't buy his theory at this point.

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 04:19 PM

Yeah, I don't know if I see a wolf putting the first vote on Danny and risking both drawing his ire and him getting lynched.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 04:19 PM

If it stays this way there will be JAG and hoops with villager votes all three days. Just some information for everyone to chew on after a possible bad lynch tonight.

Scan me tonight if you don't believe that I am a villager. I have no role that will harm the seer.

Poli · 07-22-2009, 04:32 PM

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EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 04:33 PM

unvote ntn

vote JAG

nfg22 · 07-22-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

At least for the moment I am gonna go with what I said earlier about the first vote on Danny. I do feel this could easily change, especially since I don't wanna be burned up.

Vote nfg

I understand that your not too sold on me but really my D1 vote was purely roleplay, as you can see.

nfg22 · 07-22-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am not saying that I am the only person that can claim what I claimed. If there are others with the same power as I have claimed, remember it is not out of the range of the rules to have two people on any given day with the same role.

Im reluctant to vote for you because I dont want to look too reactionary and defensive about your vote on me but really this reveal is perfect for the wolves as it has a vague implication and is an easy hide real.

nfg22 · 07-22-2009, 05:15 PM

reveal..

nfg22 · 07-22-2009, 05:20 PM

Whats the case against JAG?

ntndeacon · 07-22-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So basically ntn claims a role that sounds like the paranoid role and then immediately makes an ammended claim to cover his tracks in case of a counter claim, yet I get the vote?

EagleFan if you look at when I made the claim, there are a couple of words that should have perked your attention, it wasn't that Iwas only claiming paranoid...I was claiming it for tonight...(and today too by the way.)

ntndeacon · 07-22-2009, 05:40 PM

I am still not convinced totally, but know when it is time to change positions. So I will back off nfg for now, and try to mak it so that there isnt quite the runaway...
Unvote nfg
Vote JAG

ntndeacon · 07-22-2009, 05:43 PM

ok I am out for the evening. May we catch another Blakein tonight. Off to trivia!

TheNorm · 07-22-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

As far as UTR goes Norm hasn't contributed much either. I remember most of his posts being RP which is fine, but they have been spaced out and lacking substance.

Any thoughts, Norm?

I was starting to think I'd gone beyond UTR into practically invisible.

As for my thoughts, I'm just trying to follow where everyone else seems to be going--I don't have a read on anybody at the moment. As for my vote tonight, I'm more inclined to go with MartinD's reasoning at this point but I've really got nothing and could be swayed one way or the other.

JAG · 07-22-2009, 06:31 PM

As of 519:

ntn 2 - clap (459), Jackal (475)
JAG 3 - PB (446), EF (511), ntn (517)
EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497)
hoops 1 - nfg (473)

No vote yet:
TheNorm
Lathum
Schmidty

claphamsa · 07-22-2009, 06:49 PM

fyi i had a bad day painting, dont mind me if im incoherent later :P

Lathum · 07-22-2009, 06:49 PM

so I am a little confused by NTN. He says no one better come for him tonight, does that mean he is going to assume the role of BG for tonight?

JAG · 07-22-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

so I am a little confused by NTN. He says no one better come for him tonight, does that mean he is going to assume the role of BG for tonight?

I think he's warning the seer not to scan him tonight because he's the Drug Abuser and ended up with the Paranoid role. Which could be a helpful suggestion or very convenient circumstance depending on what you believe.

Lathum · 07-22-2009, 07:19 PM

seems way to convienent.

Vote NTN

claphamsa · 07-22-2009, 07:33 PM

vote count?

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 07:33 PM

unvote JAG

vote ntn

I actually feel better about the JAG vote the more I think about it but it has now become a self defense vote.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 07:35 PM

As of 526:

ntn 4 - clap (459), Jackal (475), Lathum (524), EF (526)
JAG 2 - PB (446), ntn (517)
EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497)
hoops 1 - nfg (473)

No vote yet:
TheNorm
Schmidty

claphamsa · 07-22-2009, 07:35 PM

TheNorm · 07-22-2009, 07:41 PM

Sigh, now I'm *soooooooo* confused. I'm fairly positive we'll find out more after this vote--but which to choose...

vote NTN

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 07:50 PM

As of 529:

ntn 5 - clap (459), Jackal (475), Lathum (524), EF (526), TheNorm (529)
JAG 2 - PB (446), ntn (517)
EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497)
hoops 1 - nfg (473)

No vote yet:
Schmidty

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:12 PM

I come back and there's a tie! Interesting.

Schmidty, you aren't going to get -less- suspicion by not voting.

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:29 PM

So what are you thinking PB?

JAG · 07-22-2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I come back and there's a tie! Interesting.

Schmidty, you aren't going to get -less- suspicion by not voting.

lol

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Keep in mind NTN suggested he wouldn't be back before the deadline, so his vote probably isn't moving. And if Schmidty doesn't show up, then we're either leaving it to a coin flip or someone is making a move.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 08:43 PM

I hope that someone makes a move. I do no good to the village if I get lynched. I can do good for the village if I am night killed. I thought for certain I was going to be a night 2 target and was okay with that as it would have bought the village a kill free night 3.

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:45 PM

So NTN has suggested he's the drug abuser and EF suggests he's the diseased.

Lathum · 07-22-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I hope that someone makes a move. I do no good to the village if I get lynched. I can do good for the village if I am night killed. I thought for certain I was going to be a night 2 target and was okay with that as it would have bought the village a kill free night 3.

huh, can you just come out and say what you mean. I am to busy to guess what role you may be.

JAG · 07-22-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I hope that someone makes a move. I do no good to the village if I get lynched. I can do good for the village if I am night killed. I thought for certain I was going to be a night 2 target and was okay with that as it would have bought the village a kill free night 3.

If that's your role, then you're basically no better than a vanilla villager now that you've revealed.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

huh, can you just come out and say what you mean. I am to busy to guess what role you may be.

Sorry, the diseased. If they attack me at night they can't attack the following night. I as hoping to keep it quiet and that the wolves would come after me.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

If that's your role, then you're basically no better than a vanilla villager now that you've revealed.

True, but an active vanilla villager.

Schmidty · 07-22-2009, 08:50 PM

Ok, done with my delicious crab!!!

Looks like I didn't miss much...other than a tie!!!

Ok, let me think a second.

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:50 PM

Ooh, tiebreaking.

Lathum · 07-22-2009, 08:50 PM

Unvote NTN
vote EF

The Jackal · 07-22-2009, 08:51 PM

And Lathum beats Schmidty to it. So I take it you don't believe EF?

Lathum · 07-22-2009, 08:51 PM

even if they are both being honest, EF is now a vanilla villager and we have no way to verefy this. I would rather a scan not be wasted on him

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 08:52 PM

Dammit. I am the seer!!! PB is good. I was hoping to avoid this by faking the other reveal.

Schmidty · 07-22-2009, 08:52 PM

EF - I see that you're here. Why should I not vote for you? (Of course, someone asked me that, and I didn't have a great answer, but still...)

hoopsguy · 07-22-2009, 08:52 PM

I'm late to the party, but I'm leaving my vote where it is.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

even if they are both being honest, EF is now a vanilla villager and we have no way to verefy this. I would rather a scan not be wasted on him

You would rather have an inactive player with an unverifiable role instead of a vanilla villager who is active?

Schmidty · 07-22-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Dammit. I am the seer!!! PB is good. I was hoping to avoid this by faking the other reveal.

I'll buy that, just because it's too big a risk at this point to not, even if you're lying.

Vote ntn

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07-22-2009, 06:49 PM	#521
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07-22-2009, 07:33 PM	#525
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07-22-2009, 07:35 PM	#528
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07-22-2009, 08:50 PM	#541
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Ok, done with my delicious crab!!! Looks like I didn't miss much...other than a tie!!! Ok, let me think a second. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

07-22-2009, 03:50 PM	#501
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	As far as UTR goes Norm hasn't contributed much either. I remember most of his posts being RP which is fine, but they have been spaced out and lacking substance. Any thoughts, Norm?

07-22-2009, 03:56 PM	#503
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	That does make sense, JAG.

07-22-2009, 04:06 PM	#505
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm not ready to give NTN a pass because that's a fakeable role, but that would seem to fit his response.

07-22-2009, 04:16 PM	#506
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of 505: ntn 3 - EF (443), clap (459), Jackal (475) JAG 1 - PB (446) EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497) hoops 1 - nfg (473) nfg 1 - ntn (485) No vote yet: TheNorm Lathum Schmidty

07-22-2009, 04:19 PM	#508
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Yeah, I don't know if I see a wolf putting the first vote on Danny and risking both drawing his ire and him getting lynched.

07-22-2009, 04:19 PM	#509
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	If it stays this way there will be JAG and hoops with villager votes all three days. Just some information for everyone to chew on after a possible bad lynch tonight. Scan me tonight if you don't believe that I am a villager. I have no role that will harm the seer.

07-22-2009, 04:33 PM	#511
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	unvote ntn vote JAG

07-22-2009, 05:15 PM	#514
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	reveal..

07-22-2009, 05:20 PM	#515
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Whats the case against JAG?

07-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#517
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I am still not convinced totally, but know when it is time to change positions. So I will back off nfg for now, and try to mak it so that there isnt quite the runaway... Unvote nfg Vote JAG

07-22-2009, 05:43 PM	#518
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	ok I am out for the evening. May we catch another Blakein tonight. Off to trivia!

07-22-2009, 06:31 PM	#520
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	As of 519: ntn 2 - clap (459), Jackal (475) JAG 3 - PB (446), EF (511), ntn (517) EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497) hoops 1 - nfg (473) No vote yet: TheNorm Lathum Schmidty

07-22-2009, 06:49 PM	#522
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so I am a little confused by NTN. He says no one better come for him tonight, does that mean he is going to assume the role of BG for tonight?

07-22-2009, 07:19 PM	#524
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	seems way to convienent. Vote NTN

07-22-2009, 07:33 PM	#526
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	unvote JAG vote ntn I actually feel better about the JAG vote the more I think about it but it has now become a self defense vote.

07-22-2009, 07:35 PM	#527
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of 526: ntn 4 - clap (459), Jackal (475), Lathum (524), EF (526) JAG 2 - PB (446), ntn (517) EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497) hoops 1 - nfg (473) No vote yet: TheNorm Schmidty

07-22-2009, 07:41 PM	#529
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	Sigh, now I'm soooooooo confused. I'm fairly positive we'll find out more after this vote--but which to choose... vote NTN

07-22-2009, 07:50 PM	#530
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of 529: ntn 5 - clap (459), Jackal (475), Lathum (524), EF (526), TheNorm (529) JAG 2 - PB (446), ntn (517) EF 5 - hoops (450), Jets (464), JAG (471), lerriuqs (476), MartinD (497) hoops 1 - nfg (473) No vote yet: Schmidty

07-22-2009, 08:12 PM	#531
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I come back and there's a tie! Interesting. Schmidty, you aren't going to get -less- suspicion by not voting.

07-22-2009, 08:29 PM	#532
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So what are you thinking PB?

07-22-2009, 08:33 PM	#534
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Keep in mind NTN suggested he wouldn't be back before the deadline, so his vote probably isn't moving. And if Schmidty doesn't show up, then we're either leaving it to a coin flip or someone is making a move.

07-22-2009, 08:43 PM	#535
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I hope that someone makes a move. I do no good to the village if I get lynched. I can do good for the village if I am night killed. I thought for certain I was going to be a night 2 target and was okay with that as it would have bought the village a kill free night 3.

07-22-2009, 08:45 PM	#536
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So NTN has suggested he's the drug abuser and EF suggests he's the diseased.

07-22-2009, 08:50 PM	#542
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Ooh, tiebreaking.

07-22-2009, 08:50 PM	#543
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Unvote NTN vote EF

07-22-2009, 08:51 PM	#544
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And Lathum beats Schmidty to it. So I take it you don't believe EF?

07-22-2009, 08:51 PM	#545
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	even if they are both being honest, EF is now a vanilla villager and we have no way to verefy this. I would rather a scan not be wasted on him

07-22-2009, 08:52 PM	#546
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Dammit. I am the seer!!! PB is good. I was hoping to avoid this by faking the other reveal.

07-22-2009, 08:52 PM	#547
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	EF - I see that you're here. Why should I not vote for you? (Of course, someone asked me that, and I didn't have a great answer, but still...) __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

07-22-2009, 08:52 PM	#548
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm late to the party, but I'm leaving my vote where it is.