Roy Moore Accused of sexual contact with 14 yr old when he was 32

[albionmoonlight]

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 - The Washington Post

Don't know if this will swing the election, but a Democratic senator from Alabama changes the math a bit.

[ISiddiqui]

Holy shit!

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 - The Washington Post

[mckerney]

And I'll still be surprised if they don't elect him.

[lungs]

If he asks God for forgiveness, it's all good.

[Jas_lov]

Yeah, Alabama voters will still think a Democrat is worse and Moore will just win by 20 instead of 30.

[Butter]

Age of consent in Alabama is like 11, so we're good.

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Kidding.

[JPhillips]

I'm pretty surprised that the establishment GOP seems to be bailing on Moore.

[stevew]

Thou shalt not fuck a 14 year old is apparently not on the Ten Commandments

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Holy shit!

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32 - The Washington Post

only way this would be better if he had encounters with boys too. (not serious). Hopefully these stories check out and that's end of Moore. Though not likely in Alabama.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm pretty surprised that the establishment GOP seems to be bailing on Moore.

Because he's much more in the line of Trump and Bannon than establishment GOP.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Because he's much more in the line of Trump and Bannon than establishment GOP.

Even the current GOP governor won't endorse Moore.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by stevew

Thou shalt not fuck a 14 year old is apparently not on the Ten Commandments

For most of history having sex with a 14 year old was kosher.

Just sayin'

[OldGiants]

Was it Hughie Long who said, "The only way I'll lose this election is if they find me in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."?

[Ben E Lou]

Seriously. The establishment GOP has to be tickled pink about this.

[NobodyHere]

It may come down to what can be proven and how strong the allegations are. Donald Trump had then-minors accusing him of rape and yet he's the president.

[cartman]

Rumor has it that if the Alabama GOP withdraws their nomination, it is too late to pull him off of the ballot. But even if he gets the most votes, he wouldn't be certified as the winner due to the nomination being withdrawn.

[thesloppy]

For a second there, I thought this thread was about Dolemite.....what a relief!

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

For a second there, I thought this thread was about Dolemite.....what a relief!

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by cartman

Rumor has it that if the Alabama GOP withdraws their nomination, it is too late to pull him off of the ballot. But even if he gets the most votes, he wouldn't be certified as the winner due to the nomination being withdrawn.

Murkowski has reportedly talked to Strange about a write in campaign.

Would love for Jones to win just got the increase in excuses to use Dougie Jones gifs that he'd provide.

[Ben E Lou]

Check Alabama law. Not sure Strange can run 3rd Party.

[cartman]

Yeah, I was seeing something about Alabama having a 'sore losers' law that prevents someone from running for an office more than once in a year.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Yeah, Alabama voters will still think a Democrat is worse and Moore will just win by 20 instead of 30.

Any rational voter would make the same choice at this point.

You could pretty much rape a goat with a cat & be more worthy of office than anyone that willingly associates themselves with the (D).

[Ben E Lou]

McCain calls on Moore to step aside and becomes the first R I have seen not to use the “if this is true” qualifier in his statement.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Any rational voter would make the same choice at this point.

You could pretty much rape a goat with a cat & be more worthy of office than anyone that willingly associates themselves with the (D).

Just checking, is marijuana use now all that's left on your "fuck em, they're just criminals" stance? Seems like at the very least sexual contact with minors and criminal contempt don't apply to your views on the necessity and importance on upholding the law anymore.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Any rational voter would make the same choice at this point.

You could pretty much rape a goat with a cat & be more worthy of office than anyone that willingly associates themselves with the (D).

If I'm gonna get scratched and kicked that much, I might as well just have my normal sex.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Logan

Just checking, is marijuana use now all that's left on your "fuck em, they're just criminals" stance? Seems like at the very least sexual contact with minors and criminal contempt don't apply to your views on the necessity and importance on upholding the law anymore.

I'm sure we're all equally shocked to see Jon's 'authoritarian' stance slowly break down into 'fuck everybody who isn't me' as the rubber meets the road.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Any rational voter would make the same choice at this point.

You could pretty much rape a goat with a cat & be more worthy of office than anyone that willingly associates themselves with the (D).

I don't think rational people support pedophiles but to each their own.

[JPhillips]

The AL auditor has an interesting defense for Moore:

"Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm sure we're all equally shocked to see Jon's 'authoritarian' stance slowly break down into 'fuck everybody who isn't me' as the rubber meets the road.

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

[albionmoonlight]

https://politicalwire.com/2017/11/09...quote-day-100/

“Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”

— Alabama state auditor Jim Ziegler (R), quoted by the Washington Examiner, defending Alabama U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore (R), who is accused of initiating sexual relations with teenage girls.

Jim Ziegler busting into the establishment GOP reactions like

[albionmoonlight]

dola: JPhillips beat me to it

[ntndeacon]

I bet that Strange gets the write in candidacy brewing. However Moore wants to paint this, it is certainly against the image he has for himself as a Christian maverick willing to buck the system to do the right thing. I suspect that he doesn't go down easily. (pun not intended)

He already is blaming the Washington Post to spreading vile untruths about him.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

[JPhillips]

The fun part will be when Moore wins and the GOP forgets this ever happened.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

McCain calls on Moore to step aside and becomes the first R I have seen not to use the “if this is true” qualifier in his statement.

That's using the (R) pretty loosely there, in fairness.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm sure we're all equally shocked to see Jon's 'authoritarian' stance slowly break down into 'fuck everybody who isn't me' as the rubber meets the road.

What part of "I hold ISIS in higher regard than (D)" wasn't clear to you?

[Young Drachma]

The Post did their homework, if nothing else. Sounds like the one woman they mentioned where she had a lot of problems afterwards, not sure where discussing her financial problems really was relevant to the story -- unless they were afraid of being scooped -- but yeah...it's a pretty detailed and damning set of circumstances.

[Ben E Lou]

After a long pause, Alabama Bibb County Republican chairman Jerry Pow tells me he'd vote for Roy Moore even if Moore did commit a sex crime against a girl.

"I would vote for Judge Moore because I wouldn't want to vote for Doug," he says. "I'm not saying I support what he did."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 9, 2017

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Logan

Just checking, is marijuana use now all that's left on your "fuck em, they're just criminals" stance? Seems like at the very least sexual contact with minors and criminal contempt don't apply to your views on the necessity and importance on upholding the law anymore.

Gonna need to read with a little more nuance I'm afraid.

Where did I excuse Moore's alleged criminal behavior? Nowhere that I see.

I made a comparison to his fitness to hold office as specifically compared to his upcoming opponent. And that's as far as my statement went.

If a plumber kills 50 people, he's still better suited to fixing pipes than someone who knows nothing about plumbing. That doesn't make him a great fella, it makes him more suitable to do plumbing work.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

What part of "I hold ISIS in higher regard than (D)" wasn't clear to you?

That's kind of the point, you're motivations/opinions have never been anything but clear to everybody, it's your 'I respect authority & Christian values' nametag that's always been super cloudy.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

After a long pause, Alabama Bibb County Republican chairman Jerry Pow tells me he'd vote for Roy Moore even if Moore did commit a sex crime against a girl.

"I would vote for Judge Moore because I wouldn't want to vote for Doug," he says. "I'm not saying I support what he did."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 9, 2017

Already moved past fake news to, "I don't care."

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The AL auditor has an interesting defense for Moore:

ah the old religion defense

[RainMaker]

It kind of goes with the belief that the more hardcore you are about something, the more likely you are to deep down be the person you claim to hate. We've seen this with anti-gay activists in the past who turned out to be gay. We've seen a slew of male feminists being predators behind the scene. It's at a point where I see a guy going on endlessly about rape culture and I just assume he must have raped someone in the past.

Adam Carolla has a funny bit about people like this in regards to kids. He says the scout group should gather the Dads and say "ok, who wants to take the kids camping?". The Dad who immediately shoots is hand in the air is the one that doesn't get to do it. You pick the Dad trying to hide in the back.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I don't think rational people support pedophiles but to each their own.

*hebephile*

h/t Imran

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Logan

*hebephile*

h/t Imran

[RainMaker]

Whatever you call it, a guy in his 30's going for girls who could still be in Junior High is pretty fucked up.

I wonder how people who have daughters would react to their 14 year old being picked up by this guy.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

It's at a point where I see a guy going on endlessly about rape culture and I just assume he must have raped someone in the past.

Last millenium when I was back in college I remember walking past a poster for an 'Everybody Welcome: Men's Anti-Rape Group' and thinking that had to be among the top places you're guaranteed to meet a rapist.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Whatever you call it, a guy in his 30's going for girls who could still be in Junior High is pretty fucked up.

I wonder how people who have daughters would react to their 14 year old being picked up by this guy.

He'd have to pry the Nintendo Switch from her cold dead hands first.

[stevew]

There are other options than voting for the Dem. Like you certify a write in candidate and put it up at the swap meet so rural Alabama peeps can learn how to spell it correctly.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by stevew

There are other options than voting for the Dem. Like you certify a write in candidate and put it up at the swap meet so rural Alabama peeps can learn how to spell it correctly.

Or simply not vote in that race. Defensive voting seems almost contrary to the whole point of voting in the first place, to my mind, but it also seems to be most folks' preferred style these days.