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10-31-2012, 02:59 PM
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But could you imagine if they traded Varejao and were terribly terrible again and got a Nerlens Noel? Now THATS a promising team!
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10-31-2012, 04:26 PM
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Yes on both cases. Watching the game yesterday, I'd actually forgotten how much of an impact he can have on a game barely taking any shots. Who is the last big that could do that? We're talking more than just Rodman-like rebounding too, it's his passing, defensive hustle, etc.
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10-31-2012, 06:45 PM
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Why'd we have a lockout? I thought the owners were poor and didn't want to keep overpaying guys
Looking at this batch of extensions- Dermar Derozan-4/40, ty lawson 4/48, ibaka 4/48, curry 4/44, Harden 5/80....it just seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same. |
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10-31-2012, 06:46 PM
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2 years of being fucking horrible is bad enough. If they keep tanking they may as well move the team. I'm about done as it is, i hate the long rebuild. |
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10-31-2012, 06:57 PM
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Under the old system, guys like Curry might have gotten a max deal and Harden too. Those seem like bargain deals. |
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10-31-2012, 08:53 PM
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Harden looking pretty spectacular right now (...against the Pistons...), mostly.
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10-31-2012, 09:14 PM
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Harden finishes with 37 points on 14 for 25, 12 assists, and 6 boards. Wow
I'm irrationally giddy SI
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10-31-2012, 09:29 PM
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The best Rockets play was pretty much: 1) Give ball to Harden 2) ??? 3) basket! If he wasn't knocking down a shot he was making some pretty spectacular passes to open guys, both around the basket and outside.
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10-31-2012, 09:31 PM
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If only I could have seen it. But, alas, cable dispute so the game was not on here
 Hard to work in a new guy a couple of days after you get him. And it's going to be ugly against a good team- tons of turnovers tonight. But some of that will smooth itself out SI
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10-31-2012, 10:42 PM
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Thunder were stupid, they should have payed harden
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10-31-2012, 10:52 PM
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Taj Gibson agrees to 4 year, $38m extension.
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10-31-2012, 11:38 PM
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How about them Lakers?
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11-01-2012, 12:12 AM
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It's spectacular how bad a coach Mike Brown is. Just WTF how does this guy coach a team in the NBA, let alone the most talented team in the league
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11-01-2012, 12:25 AM
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My disdain of Mike Brown is well documented on these boards. he needs to be punched in the fat fucking face all the time. He's like the romeo crennel of basketball.
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11-01-2012, 03:43 AM
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The Lakers look completely lost. Today it was on defense, yesterday it was on both ends.
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11-01-2012, 04:47 AM
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Don't want to get too excited after one solid performance by Harden, but I wonder.... Would the Thunder perhaps have been better served keeping Harden, and losing Westbrook instead? Either get a starting PG (Lowry?) in a trade or run with Maynor. I know that super PGs are pretty much all the rage right now, but what was the last championship team to have one? Rondo wasn't at that stage yet with Boston, so I guess Tony Parker maybe? Considering the amount of times Westbrook's non-passing has become an 'issue' - in the press if not the locker room - maybe the twin-scoring wings would have been the way for the Thunder to go.
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11-01-2012, 06:48 AM
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i've probably wasted too many brain cells thinking about it but i can't get over how dumb it seems (harden trade)
if the heat are the team you need to beat, and the heat beat you by going small with bosh playing a 'wide 5' then... wtf? why do you need perkins? |
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11-01-2012, 07:42 AM
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Oh Mike Brown..
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11-01-2012, 07:50 AM
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50% improvement! SI
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11-01-2012, 10:23 AM
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Clippers won an exciting game at home over their playoff opponent last year, the Grizzlies.
It was a solid win over a good team, the kind you expect to get at home if you're a good team expected to win. I won't say it went all that smooth. Crawford went off, scored 29 off the bench, so this was one of those games he shot the Clips to a win. But everyone knows he will shoot you out as soon as shoot you in. DJ had 9 turnovers--9!!! How does a center turn the ball over nine times? My fantasy team wants to know.
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11-01-2012, 10:24 AM
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Harden's press conference really gave more light to the fact that he didn't like being 3rd banana that much. I think he's ready to put up some serious numbers. Good for him
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11-01-2012, 11:01 AM
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It's better to be extremely crappy than halfway decent though. Yeah, garbage teams are shitty but would you rather go from Sonics-bad to Thunder or just be the Hawks every year? |
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11-01-2012, 11:18 AM
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even w/ a lottery pick you need the stars to align. there are more weak classes than strong ones
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11-01-2012, 11:31 AM
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Pacers.
Undefeated.
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11-01-2012, 11:49 AM
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Hello, Houston the last 3 years: 14th pick and #9 seed! SI
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11-01-2012, 12:38 PM
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The thinking would be that you have to get out of the West and that means dealing with Howard, the Gasols, etc. I think the simple explanation is CBA that was signed last year does not allow for this type of team to be built with big contracts. so choices will have to be made.
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11-01-2012, 01:42 PM
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That type of luck in a rebuild doesn't usually happen. The Cavs only earned the #4 pick the last 2 years and were just lucky that the Clippers pick hit a 1 outer to win the lotto. And we still have basically nothing to show for 2 years of painful basketball. |
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11-01-2012, 03:21 PM
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Could be looking a little better if they didn't draft Thompson and Waiters with those #4 picks, no? |
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11-01-2012, 03:52 PM
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I think they drafted the wrong guys as well, but it's too soon to tell if anyone drafted after pick 4 will be anything substantially better than what they have. And even if it's a better player, it does not appear that anyone drafted after Thompson at #4 is going to be a bonafide stud player who will make multiple all star games. At least as of now.
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11-01-2012, 03:57 PM
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I thought that kid Toronto drafted and stashed with the next pick was supposed to be pretty impressive.
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11-01-2012, 04:04 PM
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Even if Valanciunas is the 3rd best center in the league, in a league where big men don't really matter, it would still take years to build a team through the draft without accumulating top 20 free agents.
I think even if Kyrie is like the 20th best player in the league and Val- becomes like the 30th best player in the league, the deck is so stacked against you ever winning anything. |
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11-02-2012, 11:31 AM
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i think this season will be all sorts of fun
 Very surprised the Thunder went with Thabeet in their rotation over Perry Jones, basically deciding against small ball for the time being. (Thabeet actually looked decent and has in the preseason. Once you look besides the bust label, i think he could really be an asset still) Kevin Martin had a really good game as well, same with Durant. For the spurs, Diaw was really good (the guys feel for the game is just a sight to behold) Nice playcall and great game winner by Parker at the end there - On the Harde trade : Sth that hasn´t been said (i think) is that Lin will also profit from playing with Harden imo, very tough for defenses to gameplan for 2 guys with that mix of scoring and passing ability. I actually see the Thunder´s point about not needing 3 perimeter stars, the problem is that now they lost their one guy that could break down a defense and have the passing ability to make the smart play. Westbrook is great for putting the pressure on teams, but i wouldn´t trust him as the only pick and roll threar (Durant has come a ways in that regard, but at the end of the day he is a 6´10 guy with slightly above average but definitely not elite or even very good passing and limited in certain ways) The Rockets now have to try to spread playing time around up front to showcase them and then try to get sth in return for some of their gazilion PFs. Harden, Lin, Asik isn´t a half bad core to have. other musings: - Joakim Noah was absolute amazing. Anybody seen that game ? He ran circles around Cousins and was a beat on defense as well, the guy was basically everywhere. - Anthony Davis had a good line, but also had a lot of very basic plays he screwed up on both ends. Not very patient on offense or defense. Greivis Vazquez on the other hand impressed me. - Lillard is really good. Could be a more physichal (and less often injured) version of Steph Curry. Leonard also looked good, very fundamentally sound. Likely won´t put up huge numbers, but know how to play on both ends.
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11-02-2012, 12:04 PM
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I hope everyone has NBAtv and has had the pleasure of watching Open Court
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11-02-2012, 12:14 PM
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I watched it the other night. It was pretty fun to watch.
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11-02-2012, 12:25 PM
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What is it ?
some intriguing stats (which i hadn´t had time to check, but the guy who posted them is very trustworthy when it comes to theese numbers) : Harden with Durant: 13.7/4.7/3.2 je 36 min bei 60.3 TS% Harden without Durant: 26.7/4.8/4.8 je 36 min bei 65.1 TS% accumulated over the last 2 seasons. That´s confirming the visual impression i had, there´s a reason why there´s this much outrage over a 6th man being traded away. Harden imo can become a 38 Minute version of Manu with maybe even better shooting numbers (but slightly worse defense) and a 38 minute version of Manu would have been pretty much up there with the best perimeter players in the league.
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11-02-2012, 01:03 PM
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Three episodes so far this season, multitude of topics discussed between Shaq, Chuck, Kenny, Kerr, Reggie Miller, Steve Smith, CWebb, hosted by Ernie.
It's quite entertaining. To your point about Harden whomario, do you think Harden could compete with Durant for league lead in PPG? |
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11-02-2012, 01:37 PM
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Everything´s possible, although i don´t think it´s likely as there´s bound to be some growin pains for him in the new role. But he´ll certainly get the shots and Houston has a couple good passers on the roster as well (Lin can break down a defense, Parsons can create mismatches and is an excellent passer) so he won´t have to create everything for himself.
If i had to bet on it i´d say 24 PPG  neat gif, reason 8921 why Tim Duncan game film should be mandatory viewing for every big man : 
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11-02-2012, 02:22 PM
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We're not going to see one like Tim Duncan for a while. He's a little like the Greg Maddux of the NBA: good raw physical talent but also so fundamentally strong and smart.
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11-02-2012, 09:15 PM
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Harden with 45 pts and 7 boards, Lin with 21 pts/10 reb/7 assist, Omer Asik with 19 boards... and 0 points. Houston 2-0 now with a win in Atlanta.
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Damn, Harden is going OFF.
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11-02-2012, 09:18 PM
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But just wait until OKC gets a late lottery pick.
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11-02-2012, 09:38 PM
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They get Toronto's pick.
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11-03-2012, 12:31 AM
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Really happy that The Basketball Jones is back on Grantland
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11-03-2012, 02:42 AM
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I'll be wildly bold here. Lakers are not as bad as their start indicates. James Harden is not as good as his start.
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11-03-2012, 02:42 AM
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Would be hilarious if Dwight has a miserable year in LA and bolts this summer. |
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11-03-2012, 02:49 AM
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The Thunder need to hire the Red Sox smear campaign guys and get out in front of this Harden story. Start smearing him, or this could destroy the Thunder season. |
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What if Harden is as good as his start? He just needed Jeremy Lin as his muse. |
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down there, Einstein SI
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