Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Tangle's vote for tyrith seems very odd. Why throw a vote on a 4th canidate? Seems like he is trying to distance himself from the rest of the vote.

or maybe he knows something and is trying to point us in the right direction. I have been suspiscous of him ever since his tyrade against me.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I think schmidty is probably telling the truth but I really don't see it as a major loss so I think it is worth taking the chance he is lying in an attempt to out other members of the ruling class in case he is a necro.

There is only one remaining member of the ruling class. That is a fact. That nobody else has called bullshit on Schmidty makes me more confident that he is the one ruling class member left.

That doesn't guarantee he's good, I realize -- but all the other ones have been and that counts something in my book.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by path12

There is only one remaining member of the ruling class. That is a fact. That nobody else has called bullshit on Schmidty makes me more confident that he is the one ruling class member left.

That doesn't guarantee he's good, I realize -- but all the other ones have been and that counts something in my book.

Yeah it should count against him if you believe the math, assuming that all players have an equal chance of becoming a member of the ruling class.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yeah it should count against him if you believe the math, assuming that all players have an equal chance of becoming a member of the ruling class.

We have no way of knowing for sure how the replacements for ruling class were made, do we?

[tanglewood]

Hmm, well I have to admit that I expected at least some reaction from my vote. To be perfectly honest I thought leaving it blank might stir up some discussion, but never mind, probably too late for that I guess.

Basically Barkeep had it correct. I don't think Schmidty is a badguy, and I'm not so sure on Chubby either. Tyrith has been anti-Lathum throughout and has me as one of his supspects, so he'll get my vote today. Not really solid, but I think today may well be a wait and see type day. Tonight will certainly be interesting.

[hoopsguy]

I have not made that information publicly available. There may or may not be roles with this information.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by path12

We have no way of knowing for sure how the replacements for ruling class were made, do we?

No we don't.

Tangle: The night is always interesting

[path12]

I have no idea where to vote. I'm not on Schmidty since I think there are more likely candidates. I'm not sold on Tangle or Tyrith yet. My top candidates would probably be Vince or Qwik but there's no movement there.

I'll go with my gut, useless vote or not.

Vote Vince

[Barkeep49]

Ok not really sure which way to go. I've felt marginally good about Chubby throughout, and think people are making a large mistake with Schmidty, though understandable. As such I will

Vote Tyrith

Seems like the best of the remaining lot. Though I do like Vince as a suspect as well, Alan T, trying to kill him or not.

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of Post #2958:

Schmidty - SnDvls (2788), Lathum (2789), King (2797), Chubby (2800)
Chubby - Dubb (2890), Schmidty (2897), Anxiety (2913)
Tangle - Qwikshot (2901)
Tyrith - Tangle (2935)
Qwikshot - Saldana (2940)
Vince - Path (2958)

Not voted: Barkeep, Vince, Tyrith

[hoopsguy]

Going back to double-check for a vote from Vince, FYI.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yeah it should count against him if you believe the math, assuming that all players have an equal chance of becoming a member of the ruling class.

It shouldn't matter at all. Random numbers are random numbers. It doesn't matter if coin turns up heads 50 times in a row, the 51st time heads and tails are still equally likely. If he got it from swaggs he is only slightly less likely to be good than any of the original guys (because swaggs was good and was killed).

Yeah, I tiraded against Lathum. I still will, to a large degree, because he info-screwed us. I screamed all day long because people didn't look back to the role list to see how bad he was info screwing us. It doesn't make me happy, still. However, after thinking about the situation I'm willing to concede that killing him isn't a positive-EV play for us now, even if it would fulfill my lust for revenge. I think most of our problems lie elsewhere now.

I also think we need to stop with random role reveals because we still have an EG out there who needs cover to operate.

[Qwikshot]

I think Tyrith is fine...Saldana, what have I done to earn a vote? I'm curious because I've supported the seer, I've voted for two baddies. I don't get why I suddenly have caused suspicion?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

It shouldn't matter at all. Random numbers are random numbers. It doesn't matter if coin turns up heads 50 times in a row, the 51st time heads and tails are still equally likely. If he got it from swaggs he is only slightly less likely to be good than any of the original guys (because swaggs was good and was killed).

Yeah, I tiraded against Lathum. I still will, to a large degree, because he info-screwed us. I screamed all day long because people didn't look back to the role list to see how bad he was info screwing us. It doesn't make me happy, still. However, after thinking about the situation I'm willing to concede that killing him isn't a positive-EV play for us now, even if it would fulfill my lust for revenge. I think most of our problems lie elsewhere now.

I also think we need to stop with random role reveals because we still have an EG out there who needs cover to operate.

Yes but Tyrith the math says only 1/3 of the time will no bad guy have been randomly chosen, just as the math says only 1/4 of the time will 2 coin flips turn up the same way. Each individual one has the same chance but the cumulative effect is still there. And with that I'm out.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

I have no idea where to vote. I'm not on Schmidty since I think there are more likely candidates. I'm not sold on Tangle or Tyrith yet. My top candidates would probably be Vince or Qwik but there's no movement there.

I'll go with my gut, useless vote or not.

Vote Vince

vince is OK in my book, I think AlanT was going for a kill last night and somehow got intercepted.

[Tyrith]

Gotta put a vote in. I don't like this much.

VOTE CHUBBY

[hoopsguy]

As of Post #2966 (TIED):

Schmidty - SnDvls (2788), Lathum (2789), King (2797), Chubby (2800)
Chubby - Dubb (2890), Schmidty (2897), Anxiety (2913), Tyrith (2966)
Tangle - Qwikshot (2901)
Tyrith - Tangle (2935), Barkeep (2959)
Qwikshot - Saldana (2940)
Vince - Path (2958)
Not voted: Vince - looked but could not find vote in last 5 pages

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

vince is OK in my book, I think AlanT was going for a kill last night and somehow got intercepted.

Is that just gut or something more?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes but Tyrith the math says only 1/3 of the time will no bad guy have been randomly chosen, just as the math says only 1/4 of the time will 2 coin flips turn up the same way. Each individual one has the same chance but the cumulative effect is still there. And with that I'm out.

That analysis only works from the beginning, when all values are unknown. Once you know any outcomes, if the remaining outcomes are unrelated and random (which I'm assuming they are, especially in a replacement; initially I would understand a 2/1 good/bad split) then it doesn't matter.

[tanglewood]

Is a tie a good thing right now?

[path12]

Not if you're in it.

[Chubby]

Just got back online to see I'm tied?

I was silenced, couldn't post til 10 mins to go but couldn't get back online.

[kingfc22]

time check

[hoopsguy]

In the very final seconds here ... DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA!

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

In the very final seconds here ... DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA!

Nothing like an impartial observer for a GM.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Nothing like an impartial observer for a GM.

lol

[hoopsguy]

Does it get more impartial than that post?

Results are coming up.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Just got back online to see I'm tied?

I was silenced, couldn't post til 10 mins to go but couldn't get back online.

Well that is an interesting twist that I didn't see coming.

[Chubby]

and if anyone doubts me, scan me.

[kingfc22]

Just checked and saw that Chubby's last post was 6:08 PST.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Well that is an interesting twist that I didn't see coming.

And the fact that it came at 859 and not 851 makes me regret my vote somewhat. Seems much less likely to be fake now. Bleeeeh. Schmidty had better appreciate that I saved his ass.

[path12]

Was anyone else having problems getting online? Been quick for me.

[Tyrith]

Dola, or at least that I tried.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Is that just gut or something more?

just gut. I'm not saying it clears vince but it at least moves him up in terms of me trusting him.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by path12

Was anyone else having problems getting online? Been quick for me.

It wasn't the site, I've hogged the computer all day and with being silenced I made some food. When I came back, my dad was on the computer, I pyschically couldn't get back on. The site was fine.

[Chubby]

Scan me anytime to prove my story true. Arrgh it's 100% the truth

[Qwikshot]

I'm out for the night...it's been a rush, but I've had a long day...

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Scan me anytime to prove my story true. Arrgh it's 100% the truth

You either have my sympathies for that, or my humored ire if you turn out to be an incredibly good lying bastard.

[hoopsguy]

Although each of the decisions up until now has required careful deliberation (OK, not so much with bullet based on the unanimous vote) today is just gut-wrenching. The citizens go back and forth on Schmidty, before finally settling on a showdown between Schmidty and Chubby. There is no provision to allow either two men or no men to face Osiris - one of them must be brought forward to face his judgement. But no decision can be reached when the day comes to an end.

The Pharaoh path12 emerges from his abode to make his ruling. He looks pained as he points to Chubby and signals for him to be brought before the statue. Chubby has a crazed look on his face; he cannot believe it is come to this.

"But I'm magically attuned! You idiots, you don't know what you have done!". He tries to wiggle from the grasp of the clerics of Osiris, but is held firmly as the statue begins to glow. The golden color around the statue continues to grow brighter and brighter, and you look on with disbelief as the statue projects a golden ray that envelops Chubby! He is lifted off his feet in the glow, slowly and inexorably moving towards the giant statue.

A stream of black tendrils leap forward from Chubby's hands, as his face turns to a distorted mask of hatred. But the blast fails to damage Osiris' golem. Chubby's body seems to be tearing apart as it approaches the statue. His screams are continuous until he no longer has a form to produce sound. The broken pieces of flesh enter the open mouth of the statue.

Will this be the final deathblow to the necromancers?

Night 6 has begun.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

I think Tyrith is fine...Saldana, what have I done to earn a vote? I'm curious because I've supported the seer, I've voted for two baddies. I don't get why I suddenly have caused suspicion?

voting for baddies in this game doesnt quite carry the same clearance value as it has in other games, because most likely, you didnt know who you were voting for, since you guys dont know each other.

my vote for you is based upon the fact that you are not a post whore in WW games, but you arent so quiet that i forget you are playing, which like i said, i have twice this game...i have no reason other than i think you are flying extreeeeeemly low right now, and you are a good enough player to make that work for you as a wolf

[tanglewood]

Well, at least he was loyal to the cause right until the end, lol.

[Lathum]

good choice path, I had a feeling about chubby early in the game, I am glad to know I was right.

[saldana]

nice!!!!!!!!!! how many of these bastards are there?

[tanglewood]

Dola

Head Necro, score one!!!!

And he was magically attuned too, very clever there Chubby, shame it didn't quite work out for you.

[kingfc22]

sweet. Nice choice pharoah!!!

[Tyrith]

Chubby, well played. Awesome game, especially the first time out. Hope you'll come take another spin with us

LYNCH VOTE FTW!!! Even if path did break the tie :P

[SnDvls]

good job path.

how many more are we guessing then? 2 is my guess

[Chubby]

You guys suck


It was fun. I'm definately in the next game. Now I can do something else with my free time i guess Hopefully I made 1st time players proud...

[tanglewood]

First thought, was the lack of movement near the end a sign that both players tied were bad?

[path12]

I almost changed the tiebreak. I'm glad I didn't. After Tyrith and Chubby's first games, there are officially no more grants to first time players......good job Chubby.