LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS) - Page 5

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

if yalls do that, then supream court might strike it down....

That's why I was asking in this thread - I wanted to get everyone talking about rules/etc as this thread is too quiet. I would like to get the biggest bang for our buck on our two bills today, but I don't want them to get overturned by the supreme court. What are the Republican thoughts on their bill, if you care to share (before we have liasons to make this easier)?

Tyrith · 07-22-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

That's why I was asking in this thread - I wanted to get everyone talking about rules/etc as this thread is too quiet. I would like to get the biggest bang for our buck on our two bills today, but I don't want them to get overturned by the supreme court. What are the Republican thoughts on their bill, if you care to share (before we have liasons to make this easier)?

We're busy plotting how to overthrow the governm--I mean, um...picking our leaders and talking about similar things for our seer bill. And my personal opinion is that we want to try to get an extra little something, something that is fundamentally fair and useful, not that is going to give us a huge advantage, because we'll never see that advantage.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 10:57 AM

Yes, yes. I am in total agreement.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 11:13 AM

If we determine a speaker, they can propose a bill too.

Passacaglia · 07-22-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

If we determine a speaker, they can propose a bill too.

As far as I can tell, only Leaders can propose bills. I don't see where it says the Speaker can.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Yeah, I didn't see that either.

claphamsa · 07-22-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

If we determine a speaker, they can propose a bill too.

maybe the wolves know somethign we dont?

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

THE RULES

Each party may submit one bill per day, and the Speaker may submit a bill.

Right here

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 11:21 AM

Oh.

claphamsa · 07-22-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Right here

oih

Passacaglia · 07-22-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Right here

Thanks (although I still had to find it myself).

Anyway, that won't really matter to us today, since we won't have a Speaker until Day 1 is over.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 11:24 AM

That's true, just throwing it out there

Passacaglia · 07-22-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

That's true, just throwing it out there

So shouldn't the Speaker be a Republican? I mean seriously, Seer is way more powerful than BG -- we want someone who stands to gain from creating Seers.

henry296 · 07-22-2008, 11:48 AM

While I thank everyone for their consideration as speaker, I don't believe I have the time right now to serve the entire country and will focus on representing my constituents to the best of my ability. I, however, would like to support Chubby's bid for Speaker.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So shouldn't the Speaker be a Republican? I mean seriously, Seer is way more powerful than BG -- we want someone who stands to gain from creating Seers.

I don't think any of us should know who the Seer/BG is. That is, unless you're looking for a loophole to allow the Wolf Party to easily find out their identity.

henry296 · 07-22-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

I don't think any of us should know who the Seer/BG is. That is, unless you're looking for a loophole to allow the Wolf Party to easily find out their identity.

I agree 100% with this comment.

illinifan999 · 07-22-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

I don't think any of us should know who the Seer/BG is. That is, unless you're looking for a loophole to allow the Wolf Party to easily find out their identity.

It would be a random party member.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

It would be a random party member.

A random Republican party member? I think that's a bad idea.

To get our support, you will need to make it a random member of either the Republican OR Democratic parties.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

A random Republican party member? I think that's a bad idea.

To get our support, you will need to make it a random member of either the Republican OR Democratic parties.

Also, I think that's good strategy as you would be making it harder on the wolves. Otherwise they'd know exactly which party the seer is in - making it easier for them to pick him/her off.

PurdueBrad · 07-22-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

A random Republican party member? I think that's a bad idea.

To get our support, you will need to make it a random member of either the Republican OR Democratic parties.

So you're saying that the BG and the seer should both be up as random members of either party?

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 12:16 PM

Yes. That is what I am suggesting.

Leave the wolves quessing.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 12:16 PM

quessing = guessing

Obviously.

PurdueBrad · 07-22-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Also, I think that's good strategy as you would be making it harder on the wolves. Otherwise they'd know exactly which party the seer is in - making it easier for them to pick him/her off.

This is quite true and goes for the bodyguard as well. IF BOTH are up as random, I could support it.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

This is quite true and goes for the bodyguard as well. IF BOTH are up as random, I could support it.

Our bill has been written to ensure the bodyguard is chosen at random from any non-wolf (regardless of Rep/Dem party).

We will be presenting it shortly to the congress.

claphamsa · 07-22-2008, 12:21 PM

please do so, and we will come back with a seer bill!

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 12:24 PM

Making the BG and Seer entirely random -- while excluding the wolves -- makes a ton of sense. We shouldn't give the wolves even a tiny bit of an advantage.

Coming together on a Speaker candidate will be pretty hard in a divided House. Chubby comes from a very moderate district, and I think he will work to try and move moderate proposals from either party. For no other reason than to improve his own chance at reelection. Self-interest is a powerful motivator.

VOTE CHUBBY FOR SPEAKER

Passacaglia · 07-22-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

I don't think any of us should know who the Seer/BG is. That is, unless you're looking for a loophole to allow the Wolf Party to easily find out their identity.

I don't know if you meant to quote me in your post, but I didn't say anything about people knowing who the Seer/BG is.

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 12:31 PM

Why can't we make all the roles democratic, yet announce that they are all given to republicans than let the wolves have at it?

Passacaglia · 07-22-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why can't we make all the roles democratic, yet announce that they are all given to republicans than let the wolves have at it?

You posted in the wrong thread, too!

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You posted in the wrong thread, too!

Nope.

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 12:48 PM

vote Chubby for Speaker

st.cronin · 07-22-2008, 12:56 PM

I only have a few minutes, can somebody post a summary including what I need to do if anything.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 12:58 PM

Most of today seems to be related to the Parties organizing themselves. In this forum, the only pending business is voting for a Speaker. At some point today, there should be legislation to vote on, but none has been offered to this point.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 01:03 PM

Vote Chubby for Speaker

st.cronin · 07-22-2008, 01:04 PM

VOTE ST.CRONIN FOR SPEAKER

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I only have a few minutes, can somebody post a summary including what I need to do if anything.

No legislation yet to vote on and Chubby is the only viable candidate thuse far for speaker so the current only line of business to to vote Chubby as the speaker.

PurdueBrad · 07-22-2008, 01:06 PM

vote St. Cronin for speaker of the house

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 01:10 PM

As the newly established Leader of the esteemed Democratic Party, I hereby submit the following bill for consideration.

We believe that this is the most important step in ensuring our safety against the wolves and are excited that the Democratic Party is the first party to submit a bill to address the Wolf threat.

NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL

Congressional Sponsorship: PackerFanatic and path12

WHEREAS, our country is faced with a security threat from within in the guise of the so-called "Wolf Party":

BE IT RESOLVED:
The role of Bodyguard is hereby established. The Bodyguard may protect either him or herself or one other member of Congress from harm once per year. The Bodyguard may guard the same person in consecutive years if deemed necessary. The Bodyguard shall notify Chief Rum of who he or she intends to protect prior to passage of the night deadline.

Should the person under the Bodyguard's protection be attacked by wolves, there is a 33% chance that the attacker is killed by the Bodyguard. Should the attacker survive, there is a 33% chance that the identity of the attacker will become known to the Bodyguard.

The Bodyguard will be chosen randomly by divine providence (aka Chief Rum) from among the living Members of Congress who are not wolf party members.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 01:10 PM

Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

Tyrith · 07-22-2008, 01:11 PM

That's going to be on the strong side of acceptable by the court, but that should pass legal muster, I think.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 01:12 PM

If I am running against St Cronin for speaker then I'd like to appeal to my centrist counterparts in the GOP.

jeheinz72, RendeR, and illinifan999:
As we move forward towards our ultimate goal of eliminating the Wolf Party from being I can ensure you that as Speaker of the House I will do my duty to uphold the responsibility of the position as well as try to get both sides of the aisle to support issues that further us towards our goal of eliminating the Wolf Party. As fellow centrists, it is probably in your best interest to support myself for Speaker as your constituents back home favor moderates vs someone more conservative leaning as St Cronin in.

Your support would go a long way in bringing the two parties together towards a bipartsanship approach to eliminating the wolves. It would also help you get reelected back home. Nobody but the wolves win if you don't get reelected.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 01:12 PM

Vote Chubby for Speaker
Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 01:12 PM

VOTE CHUBBY FOR SPEAKER

I feel that even though he is a democrat, he will represent the whole of Congress very well.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 01:13 PM

Vote Chubby for Speaker

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 01:13 PM

VOTE YES FOR NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL

This bill will benefit the entire country and help us greatly

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 01:13 PM

Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

Clearly this is for the good of the nation.

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

Proud to make this vote in an effort to protect those whom have voted me into office and whom I serve.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

jeheinz72, RendeR, and illinifan999:

Yes, these distinguished congress persons must be wary of voting for the candidate for Speaker of the House that is further from the center.

Those middle of the road districts certainly don't like anything very far from the center.

Tyrith · 07-22-2008, 01:20 PM

There should be a crib in every house and a gun in every crib and I believe st.cronin is the man to get us there!

VOTE ST.CRONIN FOR SPEAKER

illinifan999 · 07-22-2008, 01:26 PM

VOTE ST. CRONIN FOR SPEAKER
Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

07-22-2008, 11:13 AM	#204
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	If we determine a speaker, they can propose a bill too. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 11:24 AM	#212
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	That's true, just throwing it out there __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 11:48 AM	#214
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	While I thank everyone for their consideration as speaker, I don't believe I have the time right now to serve the entire country and will focus on representing my constituents to the best of my ability. I, however, would like to support Chubby's bid for Speaker. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-22-2008, 12:21 PM	#225
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	please do so, and we will come back with a seer bill! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-22-2008, 12:56 PM	#232
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I only have a few minutes, can somebody post a summary including what I need to do if anything. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-22-2008, 10:57 AM	#203
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yes, yes. I am in total agreement.

07-22-2008, 11:17 AM	#206
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah, I didn't see that either.

07-22-2008, 11:21 AM	#209
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Oh.

07-22-2008, 12:16 PM	#221
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yes. That is what I am suggesting. Leave the wolves quessing.

07-22-2008, 12:16 PM	#222
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	quessing = guessing Obviously.

07-22-2008, 12:24 PM	#226
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Making the BG and Seer entirely random -- while excluding the wolves -- makes a ton of sense. We shouldn't give the wolves even a tiny bit of an advantage. Coming together on a Speaker candidate will be pretty hard in a divided House. Chubby comes from a very moderate district, and I think he will work to try and move moderate proposals from either party. For no other reason than to improve his own chance at reelection. Self-interest is a powerful motivator. VOTE CHUBBY FOR SPEAKER

07-22-2008, 12:31 PM	#228
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Why can't we make all the roles democratic, yet announce that they are all given to republicans than let the wolves have at it?

07-22-2008, 12:48 PM	#231
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	vote Chubby for Speaker

07-22-2008, 12:58 PM	#233
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Most of today seems to be related to the Parties organizing themselves. In this forum, the only pending business is voting for a Speaker. At some point today, there should be legislation to vote on, but none has been offered to this point.

07-22-2008, 01:03 PM	#234
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote Chubby for Speaker

07-22-2008, 01:04 PM	#235
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	VOTE ST.CRONIN FOR SPEAKER __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-22-2008, 01:06 PM	#237
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	vote St. Cronin for speaker of the house

07-22-2008, 01:10 PM	#238
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	As the newly established Leader of the esteemed Democratic Party, I hereby submit the following bill for consideration. We believe that this is the most important step in ensuring our safety against the wolves and are excited that the Democratic Party is the first party to submit a bill to address the Wolf threat. NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL Congressional Sponsorship: PackerFanatic and path12 WHEREAS, our country is faced with a security threat from within in the guise of the so-called "Wolf Party": BE IT RESOLVED: The role of Bodyguard is hereby established. The Bodyguard may protect either him or herself or one other member of Congress from harm once per year. The Bodyguard may guard the same person in consecutive years if deemed necessary. The Bodyguard shall notify Chief Rum of who he or she intends to protect prior to passage of the night deadline. Should the person under the Bodyguard's protection be attacked by wolves, there is a 33% chance that the attacker is killed by the Bodyguard. Should the attacker survive, there is a 33% chance that the identity of the attacker will become known to the Bodyguard. The Bodyguard will be chosen randomly by divine providence (aka Chief Rum) from among the living Members of Congress who are not wolf party members.

07-22-2008, 01:10 PM	#239
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

07-22-2008, 01:11 PM	#240
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	That's going to be on the strong side of acceptable by the court, but that should pass legal muster, I think.

07-22-2008, 01:12 PM	#241
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	If I am running against St Cronin for speaker then I'd like to appeal to my centrist counterparts in the GOP. jeheinz72, RendeR, and illinifan999: As we move forward towards our ultimate goal of eliminating the Wolf Party from being I can ensure you that as Speaker of the House I will do my duty to uphold the responsibility of the position as well as try to get both sides of the aisle to support issues that further us towards our goal of eliminating the Wolf Party. As fellow centrists, it is probably in your best interest to support myself for Speaker as your constituents back home favor moderates vs someone more conservative leaning as St Cronin in. Your support would go a long way in bringing the two parties together towards a bipartsanship approach to eliminating the wolves. It would also help you get reelected back home. Nobody but the wolves win if you don't get reelected.

07-22-2008, 01:12 PM	#242
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Vote Chubby for Speaker Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill

07-22-2008, 01:12 PM	#243
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE CHUBBY FOR SPEAKER I feel that even though he is a democrat, he will represent the whole of Congress very well. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#244
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Vote Chubby for Speaker

07-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#245
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE YES FOR NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL This bill will benefit the entire country and help us greatly __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#246
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill Clearly this is for the good of the nation.

07-22-2008, 01:14 PM	#247
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill Proud to make this vote in an effort to protect those whom have voted me into office and whom I serve.

07-22-2008, 01:20 PM	#249
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	There should be a crib in every house and a gun in every crib and I believe st.cronin is the man to get us there! VOTE ST.CRONIN FOR SPEAKER

07-22-2008, 01:26 PM	#250
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	VOTE ST. CRONIN FOR SPEAKER Vote to Pass National Wolf Security Bill __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

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