Sopranos:The Final Episodes

[stevew]

So I decided to take the plunge and add HBO for the final series of Episodes of the Sopranos. Here's hoping for some great storytelling, and a solid conclusion to one of my favorite shows ever.

Final Episodes start Sunday April 8th at 9pm.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

They showed the first couple of episodes to critics and got very good reviews. Should be fun to watch the finish.

[cthomer5000]

Last season was dreadful, so I'm hoping something gets salvaged here.

[Deattribution]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Last season was dreadful, so I'm hoping something gets salvaged here.

Agreed, I'm willing to give it a chance since in the past it's been great but if it's just 12 (or 8 or however many) more episodes of dream sequences I'll be giving up on it fairly soon.

[cartman]

This isn't a new season, technically, these are considered the second half of the final season.

I've gained a better appreciation for the first half's episodes after going back and viewing them again. There appear to have been a lot of clues dropped about how the whole thing is going to wrap up.

[Karlifornia]

I thought the first half of this season was the weakest of any stretch of Sopranos episodes so far. That being said, they were still better than most everything else on television in my book.

[molson]

I wish I didn't read the spoilers.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by molson

I wish I didn't read the spoilers.

For the upcoming eposides?

[Hoya1]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I loved last season. The intricate character story lines are something that made me watch the episodes often more than once.

I cannot wait for Sunday. Long live the greatest show ever.........or something like that

[stevew]

definitely no spoilers in this thread please. Talking about a show that has already aired is one thing, but some stuff that a critics 3rd cousin's nephews sister's baby daddy heard through the grapevine about a future previewed episode is not cool.

[molson]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

For the upcoming eposides?

Ya, the first two new episodes already aired at a theater for a "premiere" event, so detailed spoilers are out there, if you look. Those episodes themselves are actually floating around as well.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, the first two new episodes already aired at a theater for a "premiere" event, so detailed spoilers are out there, if you look. Those episodes themselves are actually floating around as well.

I'm clarifying that is what he was talking about. I have no doubt that the episodes are on the web some where. The last season of the Wire was on the internet before the premiere on tv.

[Leonidas]

I watched the first episode of season V, concluded it was far and away the worst episode I had ever seen and haven't watched it since. I have zero desire to see anymore.

[Oilers9911]

You give up on one of the best series on TV because of one bad episode? Wow.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cartman

There appear to have been a lot of clues dropped about how the whole thing is going to wrap up.

Tony steps out of the shower & discovers he's actually a therapist married to Suzanne Pleshette?

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

You give up on one of the best series on TV because of one bad episode? Wow.

It was that bad. I think it was the whole Tony and Carmella obsessed by sushi angle that lost me. And since the only show on TV I watch regularly is The Wire the one of the best shows on TV angle doesn't work on me.

[Oilers9911]

Ok. I mistakenly thought you were a regular watcher and just gave up on it.

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Ok. I mistakenly thought you were a regular watcher and just gave up on it.

I was. I saw all of the first four seasons. In fact I loved season 4. But that first episode of season 5 was just silly bad. It insulted my intelligence as a Sopranos fan and I just refused to spend anymore time on it.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Ok. I mistakenly thought you were a regular watcher and just gave up on it.

In all seriousness, nothing has been watching since the end of season 3. I'm pretty damn sure that when all is said and done, I'll still feel that is the case.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

It was that bad. I think it was the whole Tony and Carmella obsessed by sushi angle that lost me.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Ya, I'm starting to think Leonidas thought he was watching the Sopranos, but then maybe fell asleep or something and was actually watching something else.

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, I'm starting to think Leonidas thought he was watching the Sopranos, but then maybe fell asleep or something and was actually watching something else.

Episode one of the last season. Tony and Carmella did at least two scenes in some sushi restaraunt, practically getting orgasmic about the sushi. Carmella even seemed to be jealous when she found out Tony went without her. I most definitely saw that and thought it was far and away the dumbest thing I'd ever seen on the show. It was the same episode that ended up with Junior shooting Tony. Ring some bells now?

The show was so bad I wondered if maybe it was just an entire dream sequence, but I was assured by a friend that it wasn't and the season didn't get any better, so I decided not to watch it anymore.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

Episode one of the last season. Tony and Carmella did at least two scenes in some sushi restaraunt, practically getting orgasmic about the sushi. Carmella even seemed to be jealous when she found out Tony went without her. I most definitely saw that and thought it was far and away the dumbest thing I'd ever seen on the show. It was the same episode that ended up with Junior shooting Tony. Ring some bells now?

Ya, that rings some bells now, and now I remember that being pretty annoying, but it was a very minor part of that episode.

I still think it was a bit drastic to stop watching a show you otherwise liked before that, and that you should give that season another chance. Season 5 was definitely different, and I know a lot of people were turned off that the storylines didn't progress quickly enough, and the episodes seemed to end abruptly, but there's definitely some fun stuff there, starting with episode 3.

[Leonidas]

The problem is here in England they run the show about 9 months after it aired in the US and they show it at 10pm on Sundays. I have to be up at 5:30 am for PT. Staying up until 11 is a big hassle for me. The show better be good for me to stay up that late. That episode was horrendous. I asked some friends in the US if the season gets any better, they all said no, I stopped watching. On the flip side I am watching season 4 of The Wire on Tuesdays at 10PM and am enjoying every second of it.

[cartman]

First thoughts:

Spoiler

It appears, at least to me, that they are setting up for a cataclysmic implosion of the family. The talk between Tony and Bobby on the boat, the fight between them, and Bobby leaving evidence at the scene of hit. Now that the gun charge is going to be part of the RICO indictment, this are going to get a lot worse for Tony.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by cartman

First thoughts:

Spoiler

It appears, at least to me, that they are setting up for a cataclysmic implosion of the family. The talk between Tony and Bobby on the boat, the fight between them, and Bobby leaving evidence at the scene of hit. Now that the gun charge is going to be part of the RICO indictment, this are going to get a lot worse for Tony.

I dug this episode. Not too many shows can balance being laugh out loud funny and dramatic at the same time. There's just something about Baccala kicking Tony's ass and having a Monopoly hotel stuck to Tony's face. Come on.....don't tell me that isn't funny! Don't!

[stevew]

My first thoughts are that I absolutely hate Janice and I wish that she would have been killed off 2-3 years ago. That being said, our "heroes" are headed for a catastrophic collision with the law.

[spleen1015]

Janice sucks.

I was hoping Tony was going to whack Bobby while he was taking a leak.

[JPhillips]

Great connection to the beginning of the series with the niece and nanny singing about four little ducks.

I also loved Carm's line, "Tony is not a vindictive man."

It looks like Tony's petty vengeance on Bobbie will lead to his downfall.

[sachmo71]

While watching the show, I decided that I'm glad it's ending. Tony is a dick and deserves to die.

[Oilers9911]

James Gandolfini better go on a diet when this series is over or a heart attack will whack him soon enough.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

While watching the show, I decided that I'm glad it's ending. Tony is a dick and deserves to die.

You've only NOW realized this?

[Hoya1]

Great episode.

We have to remember that what we've learned, may not always lead to something. The writers could be steering us in a direction, only to throw a curveball to catch us off guard.
Seems a little to easy.
Tony's gun gets picked up.
Hallow point bullets
Janice telling Bobby to make sure he gets rid of his
Tony telling Bobby that he will need to rely on him more. More of a right hand man because he's not sure he can trust Christopher. They talk about "hits" and Bobby brings up DNA evidence.
The fight causing a rift between Tony and Bobby.
Tony makes Bobby do the hit as "revenge"
Bobby gets his shirt ripped off and drops the gun.

This all leads me to Bobby getting arrested, then flipping saying it was Tony that made him do it. It seems to easy, so I'm sure something else needs to occur

[Hoya1]

I still cannot believe that his is going to be over. I think that they may leave the door open for a movie. When you think about the revenue that a motion picture can bring in,good movie or not, I'm wondering if these guys would really close the door on this series

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Hoya1

Great episode.

Spoiler

We have to remember that what we've learned, may not always lead to something. The writers could be steering us in a direction, only to throw a curveball to catch us off guard.
Seems a little to easy.
Tony's gun gets picked up.
Hallow point bullets
Janice telling Bobby to make sure he gets rid of his
Tony telling Bobby that he will need to rely on him more. More of a right hand man because he's not sure he can trust Christopher. They talk about "hits" and Bobby brings up DNA evidence.
The fight causing a rift between Tony and Bobby.
Tony makes Bobby do the hit as "revenge"
Bobby gets his shirt ripped off and drops the gun.

This all leads me to Bobby getting arrested, then flipping saying it was Tony that made him do it. It seems to easy, so I'm sure something else needs to occur

Please use the spoiler button seen above.

Just edit your post, and type the text that is in the spoiler above, replacing the <> with [].

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Hoya1

I still cannot believe that his is going to be over. I think that they may leave the door open for a movie. When you think about the revenue that a motion picture can bring in,good movie or not, I'm wondering if these guys would really close the door on this series

IIRC; it has been said that these nine episodes are meant to serve as the "Soprano's Movie"

[molson]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Please use the spoiler button seen above.

Just edit your post, and type the text that is in the spoiler above, replacing the <> with [].

Don't be that guy, the episode aired already. That puts the burden on you to avoid spoilers.

[stevew]

yeah, that's definitely not a spoiler.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Please use the spoiler button seen above.

Just edit your post, and type the text that is in the spoiler above, replacing the <> with [].

It's the day after airing... I think its ok. People aren't going like having to read a thread just full with spoiler tags.

[spleen1015]

I've been weeks behind on Friday Night Lights and I avoided the thread to avoid knowing what happens.

How hard is it? You know people are going to be talking about last night's episode in this thread.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by molson

Don't be that guy, the episode aired already. That puts the burden on you to avoid spoilers.

I wasn't trying to be mean, it was just a curtesy reminder to use the spoiler tag (which is pretty nifty).

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

It's the day after airing... I think its ok. People aren't going like having to read a thread just full with spoiler tags.

I guarantee you that there are people on this board and likely whom have read this thread who have Tivo'd the Sopranos and plan to watch it over the next few days.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I guarantee you that there are people on this board and likely whom have read this thread who have Tivo'd the Sopranos and plan to watch it over the next few days.

I'd hope they'd be smart enough to avoid a Sopranos thread after the show aired until they saw it .

[Hoya1]

Sorry if I spoiled.

maybe there needs to be some clarification on proper "spoiler tag" etiquette

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Hoya1

Sorry if I spoiled.

maybe there needs to be some clarification on proper "spoiler tag" etiquette

It's one thing if there was someone who saw a future episode(not available to everyone) and then wrote stuff....that's a spoiler. A spoiler is not discussing a show that has already aired.

For instance, at the beginning of last season, if you typed "Vito gets discovered as a gay and gets killed in a motel room," that would be a spoiler, and you would be a prick for writing that not in tags. But after that episode aired, its all open season.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by stevew

It's one thing if there was someone who saw a future episode(not available to everyone) and then wrote stuff....that's a spoiler. A spoiler is not discussing a show that has already aired.

For instance, at the beginning of last season, if you typed "Vito gets discovered as a gay and gets killed in a motel room," that would be a spoiler, and you would be a prick for writing that not in tags. But after that episode aired, its all open season.

I think you're wrong, but I guess that's just difference of opinion.

[molson]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I think you're wrong, but I guess that's just difference of opinion.

It's an interesting question, but c'mon, how long are people supposed to wait, until the DVD release? Would 72 hours be OK? The only clear black and white rule that everyone can understand is after it's aired, it's no longer a "spoiler". If people still don't know what happened, it's up to them to avoid.

I'd be curious to hear the opposing viewpoint though.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by molson

It's an interesting question, but c'mon, how long are people supposed to wait, until the DVD release? Would 72 hours be OK? The only clear black and white rule that everyone can understand is after it's aired, it's no longer a "spoiler". If people still don't know what happened, it's up to them to avoid.

I'd be curious to hear the opposing viewpoint though.

Yeah, as I said it's not a clear rule myself. For example, in a sporting event, I agree that after it's "over" it can no longer be considered a spoiler. Sporting events just seem to be more volitile and up for constant change. A team loses and it's coach gets fired the next day. Once you read the story about the coache's firing, you inadvertantly find out about the game. Sports and news seem intertwined to me.

However, programs like "The Soprano's" and "24", etc. don't have as much of an impact on the news. Thus, they are easier to avoid then sports and have a larger lifespan on television. I have no quantifiable data to back me up, but I'd bet there are a thousand times more programs like "24" on Tivo's across American than there are sporting events. That's just because the medium of sports seems more immediate.

But, again, that's just my own opinion and I didn't mean my earlier statements on spoilers to come out meaning that Hoya should set himself on fire in the middle of public square. Some people get more annoyed at that kind of stuff than I do.

:shrug:

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I dug this episode. Not too many shows can balance being laugh out loud funny and dramatic at the same time. There's just something about Baccala kicking Tony's ass and having a Monopoly hotel stuck to Tony's face. Come on.....don't tell me that isn't funny! Don't!

OK, this post right here may compel me to rent the last season DVD then watch the next season. That scene described is way better than the crap I described in the last episode I watched,

[QuikSand]

I just got caught up with the first episode this morning - and I really liked it as a good setup for the final stretch.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Yeah, as I said it's not a clear rule myself. For example, in a sporting event, I agree that after it's "over" it can no longer be considered a spoiler. Sporting events just seem to be more volitile and up for constant change. A team loses and it's coach gets fired the next day. Once you read the story about the coache's firing, you inadvertantly find out about the game. Sports and news seem intertwined to me.

However, programs like "The Soprano's" and "24", etc. don't have as much of an impact on the news. Thus, they are easier to avoid then sports and have a larger lifespan on television. I have no quantifiable data to back me up, but I'd bet there are a thousand times more programs like "24" on Tivo's across American than there are sporting events. That's just because the medium of sports seems more immediate.

But, again, that's just my own opinion and I didn't mean my earlier statements on spoilers to come out meaning that Hoya should set himself on fire in the middle of public square. Some people get more annoyed at that kind of stuff than I do.

:shrug:

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