Werewolf XLV - ROME! (Game over, post 3425) - Page 54

path12 · 04-16-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Although having him sliced would be nice.

If you sliced him, would we still have to vote for DT then? We could end up having to take two out. Little too early to tell if that's a good idea or not.

Lorena · 04-16-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Thus she is pronounced guilty, and hurled from the rock.

path12 · 04-16-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

lol

KWhit · 04-16-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Even better.

Why is that even better?

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 09:34 PM

So you got a PM saying DC was innocent Ardentus?

Waiting on Narcizus to let us know what he learned.

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 09:38 PM

So Ardent, did Anxieteus send you men or women?

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 09:41 PM

Grammaticus Atticus sues the following:

Barkeepus
Anxieteus
Tyrithus
Pathus
Dadeus Torgus
Passus
Ironus Hedus
Mustangus
Chubus

Poli · 04-16-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Why is that even better?

More info. Knowledge is power.

Poli · 04-16-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

So you got a PM saying DC was innocent Ardentus?

Waiting on Narcizus to let us know what he learned.

Yep. Innocent.

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 09:42 PM

For the record, I bid on Ardentus yesterday, as according to the plan we came up with. I lost of course.

Poli · 04-16-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

So Ardent, did Anxieteus send you men or women?

Lemme check. Just says a bunch of sex slaves this time.

Tyrith · 04-16-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

That's silly. I have a pseudo-BG ability and you want me to announce to the bad guys who I'm sending it against? That way they can just have soeone else do the action, if, as it apepars, certain people have to take actions?Come on now.

When you convienently use it to block our psuedo-seer? Yeah, that's a little flaky there.

Tyrith · 04-16-2007, 09:45 PM

Someone should have gotten my horse message. Anyone wanna fess up?

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 09:46 PM

I did not get a horse message.

path12 · 04-16-2007, 09:50 PM

I didn't get one either. Who hired Narcizo? They can use him to scan, can't they?

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 09:55 PM

No horse message here. I dont remember if anyone said they had won him or not. I forgot, we usually are down a laywer.

Tyrith · 04-16-2007, 10:07 PM

Um, chubby hasn't exactly been an active replacement for LSG....

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Um, chubby hasn't exactly been an active replacement for LSG....

No kidding, he has about one post.

Abe Sargent · 04-16-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

When you convienently use it to block our psuedo-seer? Yeah, that's a little flaky there.

When I suspect him of being a tarq, that's not flaky. And oh look, no kill from the tarqs. Maybe, I was right and maybe there was a bg block we have yet to hear from, but you have to at least admit the possibilty that I was right on with eh sex slaves. And btw, I was not nearly the only one to find AE suspicious over teh past few days either.

Passacaglia · 04-16-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm holding off for now, but the last list I saw was that Pass was responsible for the sex slaves.

I'd like to see that list. I bid on the bodyguard Sunday, and got him.

Tyrith · 04-16-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

When I suspect him of being a tarq, that's not flaky. And oh look, no kill from the tarqs. Maybe, I was right and maybe there was a bg block we have yet to hear from, but you have to at least admit the possibilty that I was right on with eh sex slaves. And btw, I was not nearly the only one to find AE suspicious over teh past few days either.

Yeah, I know...but wasn't there some better way to do it? Hrm...within the confines of the scheme, perhaps not...it's just frustrating that if he's good, that really hurt.

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'd like to see that list. I bid on the bodyguard Sunday, and got him.

Did your body guard block anyone last night Pass?

Passacaglia · 04-16-2007, 10:17 PM

I lost my bid for Titius, FWIW.

Passacaglia · 04-16-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Did your body guard block anyone last night Pass?

Nope. I protected Narcizo, and got no PM.

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

If you sliced him, would we still have to vote for DT then? We could end up having to take two out. Little too early to tell if that's a good idea or not.

I agree, early to say, but it does present us an opportunity. We have no known traitor kills so far, and this is the first day without a poisoning, so I'm sure we're far behind. If we could pull off two kills we might get back into it.

My suspicion in Anxietus has only deepened, but we need to examine Daddyus too.

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah, I know...but wasn't there some better way to do it? Hrm...within the confines of the scheme, perhaps not...it's just frustrating that if he's good, that really hurt.

I agree. I have a lot of suspicion of Ardentus too, as do many of us. But I didn't jail him because I didn't want to lose his actions. I'm not sure how to clear Ardentus of our suspicions, have we determined if he can scan himself?

Tyrith · 04-16-2007, 10:33 PM

Okay, Pass makes me feel better about Anxiety so far. What about the other BG?

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2007, 10:34 PM

well i'll say this. I bid on both lawyers, although with my lack of wealth I doubt i'll win either one. I'm innocent...just a normal boring senator. But i'm also so thoroughly confused by all the mechanics of this game and what-not, that at least losing me is just losing a number and not losing a lot of analysis. Hopefully I get a laywer and they can clear me though.

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2007, 10:34 PM

dola

misspelled lawyer

Abe Sargent · 04-16-2007, 10:45 PM

Cronin: You've said that we have to vote. What's the consequence if we do not?

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Nope. I protected Narcizo, and got no PM.

Do we know that we will receive a PM if the bodyguard protects someone?

Narcizo seems a likely target, I'd be surprised if they didn't strike at him, it's been their MO.

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well i'll say this. I bid on both lawyers, although with my lack of wealth I doubt i'll win either one. I'm innocent...just a normal boring senator. But i'm also so thoroughly confused by all the mechanics of this game and what-not, that at least losing me is just losing a number and not losing a lot of analysis. Hopefully I get a laywer and they can clear me though.

You can bid on more than one service?

Grammaticus · 04-16-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Do we know that we will receive a PM if the bodyguard protects someone?

Narcizo seems a likely target, I'd be surprised if they didn't strike at him, it's been their MO.

I would think the service user would get something on a body guard block. Maybe the body guard would tell you he ran someone off, etc.

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

You can bid on more than one service?

oh...can I not? I dunno...we're what...7 days in? Goes to show what I remember of the rules. Guess I'll have to send another PM to cronin specifying which lawyer. I just said "I want a lawyer!" to him. I havn't been doing a lot of bidding, so I didn't remember the exact rules.

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I would think the service user would get something on a body guard block. Maybe the body guard would tell you he ran someone off, etc.

Yeah, maybe. We haven't had any successful bodyguard blocks yet, have we? I'm just not sure what we know. The lawyer function works different than we expected. Well actually most everything worked different than expected, so I wouldn't assume anything. Perhaps the hirer gets notice, or perhaps the intended victim, or maybe just the attacker. Or some combination.

Has anyone who's used the bodyguard in the past gotten any sort of notice from its use, even on a failure?

Autumn · 04-16-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh...can I not? I dunno...we're what...7 days in? Goes to show what I remember of the rules. Guess I'll have to send another PM to cronin specifying which lawyer. I just said "I want a lawyer!" to him. I havn't been doing a lot of bidding, so I didn't remember the exact rules.

Yeah, I checked up on that a while ago. Only one bid. Sounds like another opportunity for a mess up and lost bid/arrest/execution/etc. It will be of interest to see how this turns out as if you win a lawyer they'll be occupied in defending you. I've got to go back and look at that bid list to see hwat people are supposed to have gotten.

Anyway, I'm going to bed finally. I hope to read some interesting details tomorrow.

DaddyTorgo · 04-17-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Yeah, I checked up on that a while ago. Only one bid. Sounds like another opportunity for a mess up and lost bid/arrest/execution/etc. It will be of interest to see how this turns out as if you win a lawyer they'll be occupied in defending you. I've got to go back and look at that bid list to see hwat people are supposed to have gotten.

Anyway, I'm going to bed finally. I hope to read some interesting details tomorrow.

oh. Well then i'll just un-bid and let the lawyers go about their business. If i'm to die...so be it.

path12 · 04-17-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh...can I not? I dunno...we're what...7 days in? Goes to show what I remember of the rules. Guess I'll have to send another PM to cronin specifying which lawyer. I just said "I want a lawyer!" to him. I havn't been doing a lot of bidding, so I didn't remember the exact rules.

Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but haven't you said previously that you had made bids a few times? Why wouldn't you remember now?

path12 · 04-17-2007, 12:35 AM

Dola, I want to take that last post back. I went back and checked and you've been straight up about not bidding. Matter of fact you've shot up my trust meter after reading back. What is the case against Daddyus?

Narcizo · 04-17-2007, 01:02 AM

I was 50% expecting to get a message telling me I was converted today. I didn't. All I got was a return message from CR and a message that DC was good. Sorry DC.

Going to read through now and post my thoughts.

path12 · 04-17-2007, 01:05 AM

You know what sucks? What sucks is going back through both jail candidates posts and then deciding that you think both of them are good. That's what sucks.

DaddyTorgo · 04-17-2007, 01:09 AM

path...i bid once for the sex slaves on like...D2 I think. After that I was just like "well I have no money...why bother." that and I was so damm confused by the game mechanics.

So I sent cronin a PM saying "i want to bid on both lawyers" figuring that if I was outbid for the 1st I'd have a conditional sort of bid on the 2nd. That was a snap-PM from me, I didn't go back to read the rules on bidding. But I suppose it would make sense I could only bid on one, so i'd assume cronin will just ignore my invalid-PM and i'll end up with no bid, so the lawyers will be free.

the case against me I think is that I was quite UTR for a few days, because I am STILL having a hard time with the game mechanics, and with all the bad luck we've drawn this game in terms of people.

Plus, everytime I did post something it was basically ignored/glossed over, which tends to make me not want to post.

path12 · 04-17-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

path...i bid once for the sex slaves on like...D2 I think. After that I was just like "well I have no money...why bother." that and I was so damm confused by the game mechanics.

So I sent cronin a PM saying "i want to bid on both lawyers" figuring that if I was outbid for the 1st I'd have a conditional sort of bid on the 2nd. That was a snap-PM from me, I didn't go back to read the rules on bidding. But I suppose it would make sense I could only bid on one, so i'd assume cronin will just ignore my invalid-PM and i'll end up with no bid, so the lawyers will be free.

the case against me I think is that I was quite UTR for a few days, because I am STILL having a hard time with the game mechanics, and with all the bad luck we've drawn this game in terms of people.

Plus, everytime I did post something it was basically ignored/glossed over, which tends to make me not want to post.

I believe this entire post.

Grammaticus · 04-17-2007, 01:13 AM

Well, you should bid anyway. You never know what will happen.

Grammaticus · 04-17-2007, 01:13 AM

Out for the night.

DaddyTorgo · 04-17-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

I believe this entire post.

not that I don't appreciate the support because I do, but WHY do you believe it? just saying you believe the whole thing without reason smacks of someone trying to buy trust when I show up good. and you're too good of a player to be saying something so conclusive as "i believe this entire post" without reason. I'll give you some benefit of the doubt because it's late night, but i'd really like to hear a why, or see if this raised anyone else's eyebrows.

thanks for the support though path. hopefully my questioning of you will make you support me even further as it makes you realize that I am indeed good, instead of causing a selfish backpedeling.

Narcizo · 04-17-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Nope. I protected Narcizo, and got no PM.

Thanks Pass. Doesn't look like it was needed but that puts you higher up my trust list.

Narcizo · 04-17-2007, 02:31 AM

OK. Where did the kill go? Unless the block is completely opaque and someone tried to hit me and missed and neither Pass nor I got a message about it (I severely doubt it) then it looks like there hasn't been a kill attempt at all. (DT and Mustang both didn't bid for the bodyguard - I was sort of hinting to them that they should claim it anyway, but they seemed to have missed that, luckily it doesn't appear to have mattered). Not only that but there appears to be a swordsman who KWhit bid on and didn't get the services of and KWhit is in the top tier of the wealth table. DC got Ardent. Anxiety got the sex slaves. And KWhit bid on and didn't get the swordsman.

Meanwhile the philosopher is unaccounted for. Does he convert? It sounded like it to me. Apparently the bad guys were as well as one of them has lied in order to take him. Thinking about it that might explain why there was no poisoning, maybe it's a game balance issue. Again I would like to ask to be scanned. I asked yesterday and I'm asking again. My role is too powerful to go without being checked.

Narcizo · 04-17-2007, 03:04 AM

The wealthiest men in Rome are:
Abeus Anxietus - Bid Pimp Bloke #2088/#2200 - Succeded #2414
Dodgeus Erchickus - Bid Ardent #2205 Succeded #2453
Kayus Whitus - Bid Swordsman #2224 Failed #2460

The following Senators are known to be extremely wealthy:
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus - Bid Swordsman #2071. Failed #2294.
Ironus Headus - Bid Senna #2269. Failed #2331
Passus Caglius - Bid Vitus Avidus #2069 Succeded #2399
Pathus Twelvus - Bid Ardent #2275. Failed #2340

The following Senators are of moderate wealth:
Autumnus Leavus - Failed on Ardent #2327
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus - Bid Ardent #2192. Failed #2403
Chiefus Rumus - Bid Pimp #2059 Failed #2370
Narcizus Lispus - [Bid Swordsman] Failed #2353.

The following (remaining) Senators are of ordinary wealth for the Senatorial class:
Ardentus Enthusiastus - Failed on Pimp Dude #2440
Chubbus Chubbus - couldn't bid
Daddyus Torgous - Failed (unsurprisingly) on "both" lawyers #2678
Grammus Atticus - Bid Swordsman #2206. Failed #2328
Mustangus Sallus - No Bid #2613
Tyrus Ithus - Fastus Felix #2314

Here we go then and the results are, quite frankly, a bit, erm, anomalous. I've been trying to figure it out but, well, I can't.

Narcizo · 04-17-2007, 03:26 AM

I think I've got it.

I) Anxiety used the sex slaves and was upfront about what he did. We have no reason to doubt that.
2) Dodgerchick claims she got Ardent. As she's good I can't see any reason why she should lie. We also know that Autumn or Barkeep claimed that they placed a bid on Ardent and didn't succede.
3) KWhit claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying
4) Coffee claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying.
5) Ironhead claims he bid and failed on the philosopher. Which means that someone is lying.
6) Pass claims he bid and succeded on the bodyguard. He also states that he put it on me. He could be lying.
7) Path claims he bid on Ardent and failed. That would make sense if Dodgerchick was telling the truth.

So KWhit must be lying. Which in turn means that Coffee must be lying. Unless Dodgerchick was lying. In which case Autumn or Barkeep is lying.

04-16-2007, 09:50 PM	#2665
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I didn't get one either. Who hired Narcizo? They can use him to scan, can't they? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-16-2007, 10:45 PM	#2680
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Cronin: You've said that we have to vote. What's the consequence if we do not? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-17-2007, 12:35 AM	#2689
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Dola, I want to take that last post back. I went back and checked and you've been straight up about not bidding. Matter of fact you've shot up my trust meter after reading back. What is the case against Daddyus? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-17-2007, 01:05 AM	#2691
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	You know what sucks? What sucks is going back through both jail candidates posts and then deciding that you think both of them are good. That's what sucks. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-16-2007, 09:34 PM	#2655
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	So you got a PM saying DC was innocent Ardentus? Waiting on Narcizus to let us know what he learned.

04-16-2007, 09:38 PM	#2656
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	So Ardent, did Anxieteus send you men or women?

04-16-2007, 09:41 PM	#2657
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Grammaticus Atticus sues the following: Barkeepus Anxieteus Tyrithus Pathus Dadeus Torgus Passus Ironus Hedus Mustangus Chubus

04-16-2007, 09:42 PM	#2660
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	For the record, I bid on Ardentus yesterday, as according to the plan we came up with. I lost of course.

04-16-2007, 09:45 PM	#2663
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Someone should have gotten my horse message. Anyone wanna fess up?

04-16-2007, 09:46 PM	#2664
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I did not get a horse message.

04-16-2007, 09:55 PM	#2666
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	No horse message here. I dont remember if anyone said they had won him or not. I forgot, we usually are down a laywer.

04-16-2007, 10:07 PM	#2667
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Um, chubby hasn't exactly been an active replacement for LSG....

04-16-2007, 10:17 PM	#2673
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I lost my bid for Titius, FWIW.

04-16-2007, 10:33 PM	#2677
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Okay, Pass makes me feel better about Anxiety so far. What about the other BG?

04-16-2007, 10:34 PM	#2678
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well i'll say this. I bid on both lawyers, although with my lack of wealth I doubt i'll win either one. I'm innocent...just a normal boring senator. But i'm also so thoroughly confused by all the mechanics of this game and what-not, that at least losing me is just losing a number and not losing a lot of analysis. Hopefully I get a laywer and they can clear me though.

04-16-2007, 10:34 PM	#2679
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	dola misspelled lawyer

04-17-2007, 01:02 AM	#2690
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I was 50% expecting to get a message telling me I was converted today. I didn't. All I got was a return message from CR and a message that DC was good. Sorry DC. Going to read through now and post my thoughts.

04-17-2007, 01:09 AM	#2692
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	path...i bid once for the sex slaves on like...D2 I think. After that I was just like "well I have no money...why bother." that and I was so damm confused by the game mechanics. So I sent cronin a PM saying "i want to bid on both lawyers" figuring that if I was outbid for the 1st I'd have a conditional sort of bid on the 2nd. That was a snap-PM from me, I didn't go back to read the rules on bidding. But I suppose it would make sense I could only bid on one, so i'd assume cronin will just ignore my invalid-PM and i'll end up with no bid, so the lawyers will be free. the case against me I think is that I was quite UTR for a few days, because I am STILL having a hard time with the game mechanics, and with all the bad luck we've drawn this game in terms of people. Plus, everytime I did post something it was basically ignored/glossed over, which tends to make me not want to post.

04-17-2007, 01:13 AM	#2694
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Well, you should bid anyway. You never know what will happen.

04-17-2007, 01:13 AM	#2695
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Out for the night.

04-17-2007, 02:31 AM	#2698
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	OK. Where did the kill go? Unless the block is completely opaque and someone tried to hit me and missed and neither Pass nor I got a message about it (I severely doubt it) then it looks like there hasn't been a kill attempt at all. (DT and Mustang both didn't bid for the bodyguard - I was sort of hinting to them that they should claim it anyway, but they seemed to have missed that, luckily it doesn't appear to have mattered). Not only that but there appears to be a swordsman who KWhit bid on and didn't get the services of and KWhit is in the top tier of the wealth table. DC got Ardent. Anxiety got the sex slaves. And KWhit bid on and didn't get the swordsman. Meanwhile the philosopher is unaccounted for. Does he convert? It sounded like it to me. Apparently the bad guys were as well as one of them has lied in order to take him. Thinking about it that might explain why there was no poisoning, maybe it's a game balance issue. Again I would like to ask to be scanned. I asked yesterday and I'm asking again. My role is too powerful to go without being checked.

04-17-2007, 03:04 AM	#2699
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	The wealthiest men in Rome are: Abeus Anxietus - Bid Pimp Bloke #2088/#2200 - Succeded #2414 Dodgeus Erchickus - Bid Ardent #2205 Succeded #2453 Kayus Whitus - Bid Swordsman #2224 Failed #2460 The following Senators are known to be extremely wealthy: Coffeus Yakus Warlordus - Bid Swordsman #2071. Failed #2294. Ironus Headus - Bid Senna #2269. Failed #2331 Passus Caglius - Bid Vitus Avidus #2069 Succeded #2399 Pathus Twelvus - Bid Ardent #2275. Failed #2340 The following Senators are of moderate wealth: Autumnus Leavus - Failed on Ardent #2327 Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus - Bid Ardent #2192. Failed #2403 Chiefus Rumus - Bid Pimp #2059 Failed #2370 Narcizus Lispus - [Bid Swordsman] Failed #2353. The following (remaining) Senators are of ordinary wealth for the Senatorial class: Ardentus Enthusiastus - Failed on Pimp Dude #2440 Chubbus Chubbus - couldn't bid Daddyus Torgous - Failed (unsurprisingly) on "both" lawyers #2678 Grammus Atticus - Bid Swordsman #2206. Failed #2328 Mustangus Sallus - No Bid #2613 Tyrus Ithus - Fastus Felix #2314 Here we go then and the results are, quite frankly, a bit, erm, anomalous. I've been trying to figure it out but, well, I can't.

04-17-2007, 03:26 AM	#2700
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I think I've got it. I) Anxiety used the sex slaves and was upfront about what he did. We have no reason to doubt that. 2) Dodgerchick claims she got Ardent. As she's good I can't see any reason why she should lie. We also know that Autumn or Barkeep claimed that they placed a bid on Ardent and didn't succede. 3) KWhit claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying 4) Coffee claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying. 5) Ironhead claims he bid and failed on the philosopher. Which means that someone is lying. 6) Pass claims he bid and succeded on the bodyguard. He also states that he put it on me. He could be lying. 7) Path claims he bid on Ardent and failed. That would make sense if Dodgerchick was telling the truth. So KWhit must be lying. Which in turn means that Coffee must be lying. Unless Dodgerchick was lying. In which case Autumn or Barkeep is lying.

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