The Democrat Party Headquarters Thread (No Repubs Allowed!!) - Page 11

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:08 PM

I say we go ahead. I honestly can't see anything that he would scoff at. It's not much communication and is quite creative.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:08 PM

Olie is away as well.

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:09 PM

Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act>>
Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296>>
BE IT ENACTED:>>
The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress.
The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once.

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 04:09 PM

I don't really think it'll be unconstitutional, but I do think it'll be viewed as GOP.

Who knows that might help us for being more bipartisan?

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:10 PM

Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act
Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296

BE IT ENACTED:
The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress.

The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once.

Plan B first draft

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:11 PM

I don't know what a soothsayer is exactly. Is the power a once a day deal? One sentence can be analyzed? Whole post?

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

I don't really think it'll be unconstitutional, but I do think it'll be viewed as GOP.

Who knows that might help us for being more bipartisan?

I agree with this. I think Chubby, if you say that you're doing this as a show of good faith to the Repubs, you'll be able to get away with proposing a Democratic bill tomorrow.

I say go for it.

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:12 PM

If it is too GOP, it could conceivably hurt Henry in reelection.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I agree with this. I think Chubby, if you say that you're doing this as a show of good faith to the Repubs, you'll be able to get away with proposing a Democratic bill tomorrow.

I say go for it.

+1

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:14 PM

it is once a day the soothsayer can select one player and pick a post from that player and be told if that player was being truthfull.

There is usualy a limitation on the post, so for example you can't select " I am a wolf" as a statement.

But if someone says " I am the seer and I scanned Chiefrum night 1" you can see if they are being honest.

I think it is a way better role then the duke.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:15 PM

i don't know how much longer we can wait...

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 04:16 PM

I've got to drive home, but I'll be on before deadline.

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 04:16 PM

Yeah. Go ahead with it, Chubby.

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 04:17 PM

Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act
Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296

BE IT ENACTED:
The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress.

The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once.

Is this what I'm sponsoring? If so Duke is Dem but centrist so it will still help us...

Just want to be sure this is the bill you guys are referring to beofre I post it

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:18 PM

I thought we were still doing the Seer Communication bill? I thought that was just plan B if it got nixed by CR, but since we aren't waiting, we were just going to post it anyway. I say we do the Duke/Soothsayer bill(s) tomorrow.

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 04:18 PM

NATIONAL SEER COMMUNICATION BILL
Sponsors: Henry296 & PackerFan

WHEREAS, the newly created "Seer" possesses unique gifts of insight but limited means of communication:

BE IT RESOLVED:

The Seer Communications Network is hereby established. This mechanism allows for a member of congress to be named as "SeerSpeaker" and granted certain special attributes:
Knowledge of the Seer's identity
PM exchange with the Seer - Once per day. One originating from the Seer to the SeerSpeaker and one from the SeerSpeaker to the Seer. These PMs must also include Chief Rum and Oliegirl.

The SeerSpeaker shall be chosen randomly by our Creator (Chief Rum) from the pool of non-Wolf, non-Seer members of Congress.

or this bill? I think you guys want this one...

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I thought we were still doing the Seer Communication bill? I thought that was just plan B if it got nixed by CR, but since we aren't waiting, we were just going to post it anyway. I say we do the Duke/Soothsayer bill(s) tomorrow.

That's fine, not being online is why I asked to make sure I know which one you guys want me to post

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:18 PM

That is the one

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:19 PM

No worries!

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:21 PM

seer bill fo sho

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 04:21 PM

posted

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 04:23 PM

Off 'til near deadline - here's hoping the elections go well tonight!

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

it is once a day the soothsayer can select one player and pick a post from that player and be told if that player was being truthfull.

There is usualy a limitation on the post, so for example you can't select " I am a wolf" as a statement.

But if someone says " I am the seer and I scanned Chiefrum night 1" you can see if they are being honest.

I think it is a way better role then the duke.

I think I get it and I see your point as to its value. I don't know how to write out the rule to exclude "i am a wolf" statements.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:38 PM

include something like "confirm the validity of one players statement unless that statement directly refers to that player being a wolf"

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:39 PM

Any thoughts from the experts on Tyrith's suggestion to take out the PM part and just allow the seerspeaker to also know the results?

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Any thoughts from the experts on Tyrith's suggestion to take out the PM part and just allow the seerspeaker to also know the results?

I think it hurts the bill.

I like the fact the seerspeaker can send 1 PM, that way they can make suggestions on who to scan.

Tyrith is pinging me, it seems he is trying to make this bill not work.

EagleFan · 07-23-2008, 04:43 PM

As I've been out of the loop most of the day, did that get confirmed with CR? I know we ran yesterday's by him, did we do that today?

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 04:45 PM

We tried, but he hasn't answered.

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 04:46 PM

Is this pretty much it?

Be it resolved:

The role of Soothsayer is hereby created. The Soothsayer will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress.

Once per day, the Soothsayer will be able to select one sentence from any post and request that divine providence (Chief Rum or oliegirl) reveal whether the statement is true or false. The Soothsayer may not select a statement that directly refers to whether or not the poster is functionally a wolf or a villager (e.g. "I am a wolf").

path12 · 07-23-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I'm a little worried about getting enough votes if we wait too much longer to submit the bill, though....

True dat. I've got about 15 minutes and then I won't be around until well after deadline.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 04:48 PM

i like it

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 05:02 PM

chesapeak, how come you didn't vote with the rest of us for clap?

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 05:05 PM

can someone do a vote check on wolf votes?
What is our plan as a party for wolf vote?

Not being online most of the day I read thru quick so I'm assuming the clap votes were retailiating against his KWhit vote (which is fine) but is that still the direction we want?

It's pretty clear the Repubs are targetting henry both in his congressional race and as a wolf vote

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 05:08 PM

i really don't like Chesapeaks vote, it opens to door for henry to get lynched.

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 05:23 PM

I am going to call the vote unless we have people that haven't voted yet and would like the boost politically for it...

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 05:53 PM

ok, I just realized KWhit also voted mrs schmidty.

Am I missing something here or are we leaving henry's nose wide open and putting us down a man in the process?

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 05:59 PM

I'm voting clap to try and save henry

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 06:14 PM

ARE YOU GUYS REALLY GONNA LET HENRY GO DOWN LIKE THIS AND PUT OUR PARTY AT A NUMBERS DISADVANTAGE!!

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 06:18 PM

I voted for Clap long ago. I have no idea why others are voting for others

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 07:12 PM

so what do you guys think about KWhit and chesapeaks vote?

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 07:22 PM

at least try to get a tie i think chubby gets the tiebreaker

help me!!!!!

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 07:46 PM

CR is going to extend the deadline... Come on Kwhit and cheasapeake, help your fellow democrat and get rid of the most conservative congressman in the process

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 07:47 PM

ok, sounds like I need to go vote for clap to save henry

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

ok, sounds like I need to go vote for clap to save henry

it wont mattr unless KWhit or cheasapeak return.

I have no idea what their line of thinking could be unless they are wolves.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 07:55 PM

Not sure why KWhit, especially, didn't vote for the guy that voted for him, especially with not much else to work with.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 07:58 PM

screw it, I just voted KWhit in the game thread.

We need to remove him from power tomorrow based on his actions today so I say we may as well try and lynch him.

My only thought is the wolves are gonna try and decimate one party early on.

Chubby · 07-23-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

screw it, I just voted KWhit in the game thread.

We need to remove him from power tomorrow based on his actions today so I say we may as well try and lynch him.

My only thought is the wolves are gonna try and decimate one party early on.

If that is your plan then that is your plan but we aren't going to vote him out tonight, there's simply not enough time. I think trying to tie the vote between clap and henry is far more beneficial to the party. Putting your vote on kwhit now is only going to hurt henry tonight.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

If that is your plan then that is your plan but we aren't going to vote him out tonight, there's simply not enough time. I think trying to tie the vote between clap and henry is far more beneficial to the party. Putting your vote on kwhit now is only going to hurt henry tonight.

Agreed. Henry (with your vote) is only one over Clap, so he still has a shot.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 08:08 PM

And Chubby, make sure you endorse me (if you do actually endorse me, hehe)

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

If that is your plan then that is your plan but we aren't going to vote him out tonight, there's simply not enough time. I think trying to tie the vote between clap and henry is far more beneficial to the party. Putting your vote on kwhit now is only going to hurt henry tonight.

maybe I am being thick but with an even number of Dems and Republicans how is it possible to tie the vote?

07-23-2008, 04:08 PM	#501
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I say we go ahead. I honestly can't see anything that he would scoff at. It's not much communication and is quite creative. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:08 PM	#502
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Olie is away as well. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:18 PM	#515
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I thought we were still doing the Seer Communication bill? I thought that was just plan B if it got nixed by CR, but since we aren't waiting, we were just going to post it anyway. I say we do the Duke/Soothsayer bill(s) tomorrow. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:18 PM	#518
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	That is the one __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:19 PM	#519
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	No worries! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:09 PM	#503
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act>> Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296>> BE IT ENACTED:>> The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress. The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once.

07-23-2008, 04:09 PM	#504
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	I don't really think it'll be unconstitutional, but I do think it'll be viewed as GOP. Who knows that might help us for being more bipartisan?

07-23-2008, 04:10 PM	#505
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296 BE IT ENACTED: The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress. The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once. Plan B first draft

07-23-2008, 04:11 PM	#506
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I don't know what a soothsayer is exactly. Is the power a once a day deal? One sentence can be analyzed? Whole post?

07-23-2008, 04:12 PM	#508
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	If it is too GOP, it could conceivably hurt Henry in reelection.

07-23-2008, 04:14 PM	#510
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	it is once a day the soothsayer can select one player and pick a post from that player and be told if that player was being truthfull. There is usualy a limitation on the post, so for example you can't select " I am a wolf" as a statement. But if someone says " I am the seer and I scanned Chiefrum night 1" you can see if they are being honest. I think it is a way better role then the duke.

07-23-2008, 04:15 PM	#511
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	i don't know how much longer we can wait...

07-23-2008, 04:16 PM	#512
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	I've got to drive home, but I'll be on before deadline.

07-23-2008, 04:16 PM	#513
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah. Go ahead with it, Chubby.

07-23-2008, 04:17 PM	#514
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Deferring Unfortunate Killing Expeditiously Act Sponsors: PackerFanatic and Henry296 BE IT ENACTED: The role of Duke is hereby created. The Duke will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress. The Duke shall have the ability, if lynched by a vote of the Members of Congress, to void the results of the vote and select any other player in the game for immediate removal from the game. The Duke may use this power only once. Is this what I'm sponsoring? If so Duke is Dem but centrist so it will still help us... Just want to be sure this is the bill you guys are referring to beofre I post it

07-23-2008, 04:18 PM	#516
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	NATIONAL SEER COMMUNICATION BILL Sponsors: Henry296 & PackerFan WHEREAS, the newly created "Seer" possesses unique gifts of insight but limited means of communication: BE IT RESOLVED: The Seer Communications Network is hereby established. This mechanism allows for a member of congress to be named as "SeerSpeaker" and granted certain special attributes: Knowledge of the Seer's identity PM exchange with the Seer - Once per day. One originating from the Seer to the SeerSpeaker and one from the SeerSpeaker to the Seer. These PMs must also include Chief Rum and Oliegirl. The SeerSpeaker shall be chosen randomly by our Creator (Chief Rum) from the pool of non-Wolf, non-Seer members of Congress. or this bill? I think you guys want this one...

07-23-2008, 04:21 PM	#520
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	seer bill fo sho

07-23-2008, 04:21 PM	#521
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	posted

07-23-2008, 04:23 PM	#522
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Off 'til near deadline - here's hoping the elections go well tonight! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 04:38 PM	#524
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	include something like "confirm the validity of one players statement unless that statement directly refers to that player being a wolf"

07-23-2008, 04:39 PM	#525
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Any thoughts from the experts on Tyrith's suggestion to take out the PM part and just allow the seerspeaker to also know the results?

07-23-2008, 04:43 PM	#527
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As I've been out of the loop most of the day, did that get confirmed with CR? I know we ran yesterday's by him, did we do that today?

07-23-2008, 04:45 PM	#528
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	We tried, but he hasn't answered.

07-23-2008, 04:46 PM	#529
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Is this pretty much it? Be it resolved: The role of Soothsayer is hereby created. The Soothsayer will be one person, selected at random from among those who are not members of the Wolf Party and do not already have a special role as created by a previous Act of Congress. Once per day, the Soothsayer will be able to select one sentence from any post and request that divine providence (Chief Rum or oliegirl) reveal whether the statement is true or false. The Soothsayer may not select a statement that directly refers to whether or not the poster is functionally a wolf or a villager (e.g. "I am a wolf").

07-23-2008, 04:48 PM	#531
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	i like it

07-23-2008, 05:02 PM	#532
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	chesapeak, how come you didn't vote with the rest of us for clap?

07-23-2008, 05:05 PM	#533
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	can someone do a vote check on wolf votes? What is our plan as a party for wolf vote? Not being online most of the day I read thru quick so I'm assuming the clap votes were retailiating against his KWhit vote (which is fine) but is that still the direction we want? It's pretty clear the Repubs are targetting henry both in his congressional race and as a wolf vote

07-23-2008, 05:08 PM	#534
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	i really don't like Chesapeaks vote, it opens to door for henry to get lynched.

07-23-2008, 05:23 PM	#535
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I am going to call the vote unless we have people that haven't voted yet and would like the boost politically for it...

07-23-2008, 05:53 PM	#536
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, I just realized KWhit also voted mrs schmidty. Am I missing something here or are we leaving henry's nose wide open and putting us down a man in the process?

07-23-2008, 05:59 PM	#537
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I'm voting clap to try and save henry

07-23-2008, 06:14 PM	#538
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ARE YOU GUYS REALLY GONNA LET HENRY GO DOWN LIKE THIS AND PUT OUR PARTY AT A NUMBERS DISADVANTAGE!!

07-23-2008, 06:18 PM	#539
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I voted for Clap long ago. I have no idea why others are voting for others __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 07:12 PM	#540
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so what do you guys think about KWhit and chesapeaks vote?

07-23-2008, 07:22 PM	#541
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	at least try to get a tie i think chubby gets the tiebreaker help me!!!!! __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson