The Democrat Party Headquarters Thread (No Repubs Allowed!!) - Page 6

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 01:55 PM

I will do my best to serve us proud!!

I'll copy every PM back into the thread.

Expect me to seek out alot of advice

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 01:56 PM

Interesting that the most conservative repubs are voting for our bill. They seem to be hurting themselves locally on a bill that should pass regardless...

Here's my thoughts on slurry/support (since I can't find my original post)
Support:
1 - our bill
2 - packerfanatic
3 - other (henry?)

Slurry
1 - clap
2 - jeheinz72
3 - RendeR

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 01:58 PM

OK< I am out for a bit then will be out a good portion of the night but then will be around most of the rest of the week.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 01:59 PM

Lathum - make sure you PM CR to let him know you are the liaison so you get the privileges to PM.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 02:02 PM

well jeheinz is giving an opening to get him to vote for me as speaker. he IS the most centrist repub and I am closer to his beliefs than st cronin is... (2 steps away vs 4 steps away)

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Lathum - make sure you PM CR to let him know you are the liaison so you get the privileges to PM.

E.mail would be best at this point of the day.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Interesting that the most conservative repubs are voting for our bill. They seem to be hurting themselves locally on a bill that should pass regardless...

Because I bet they aren't even thinking about it and they're the more active of their team so they're going ahead and getting their votes out.

I think our team has a better handle on the game.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 02:16 PM

they really fucked up if their bill is deemed unconstitutional.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:18 PM

Yeah. It steps WAY out there, IMO. Those of you near the far left like me, lathum, chesapeake, mccollins, maybe path should probably vote no for it.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 02:18 PM

To score a major win, we need to be the most powerful party. But does assisting in the electoral defeat of Republicans sort of help the wolves more than we help ourselves?

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah. It steps WAY out there, IMO. Those of you near the far left like me, lathum, chesapeake, mccollins, maybe path should probably vote no for it.

I agree. It won't do you guys any good to vote for it. I think it will pass but be knocked down by the courts.

Why the fuck didn't they run it by CR 1st?

Should this be something we have Lathum pass along to them?

path12 · 07-22-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Do we think 25% is good or should we try for more?

This has probably already been hammered out, but I think more is better -- at least a 33% chance of each. That's not out of line with a traditional role IMO.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah. It steps WAY out there, IMO. Those of you near the far left like me, lathum, chesapeake, mccollins, maybe path should probably vote no for it.

I think even Eagle and maybe Packer should vote against it. I highly doubt they ran it by CR and I think there's a decent chance he'd have to strike it down.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:22 PM

I dunno. We clearly have an advantage over them here. But will pressing it help the wolves too much? I say we let the day play out as it will with us taking advantage of what we can (to help us get a president elected from our party). At that point we can me a bit more helpful to their side.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Maybe try bumping it up to 33%, but I think much more than that and CR will nix it.

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I can see 33% as still being acceptable.

Heh. I'm gonna shut up until I get past the next couple pages...

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

This has probably already been hammered out, but I think more is better -- at least a 33% chance of each. That's not out of line with a traditional role IMO.

I think Path is a little behind.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Should this be something we have Lathum pass along to them?

Quite possibly - that would be in the best interest of the village.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Quite possibly - that would be in the best interest of the village.

I think we use it to our advantage - at least today.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I think Path is a little behind.

me too

path - don't forget to vote for me for speaker. Only you and henry have yet to vote from our side.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Sounds good, let's get it on out there so we can vote on it? Or is there a need to wait?

Path, do you think you have the most open schedule to be the liason?

I do have a pretty open schedule -- as I mentioned earlier I'm on a good 7-8 times per day.

Would be honored to serve as liason if needed, if not will be content to be behind the scenes as necessary.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

I am fine with Path and PF getting sponsorship credit. Do we have to wait for CR to ratify KWhit before submitting the bill?

We have 3 Supports and 3 Slurrys to decide on using.
My suggestions for Supports:
Our Bill
PF
(one left) Potentially KWhit since he may be unpopular for being in the pocket of special interests

Slurrys:
GOP Bill
(still thinking)
(Still thinking)

I'm not listening to my prior thing about commenting. Is it possible for us to put two slurrys on one person? We could target heinz' spot or the next most liberal Rep spot and try for the flip.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

me too

path - don't forget to vote for me for speaker. Only you and henry have yet to vote from our side.

OK, caught up. Will read the main thread now and put in my vote for speaker and our bill.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:41 PM

Lathum, tell Pass. that our left most members will probably never be voting for their bills. Half of the game seems to be voting the way your constituents would want you to vote.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Lathum, tell Pass. that our left most members will probably never be voting for their bills. Half of the game seems to be voting the way your constituents would want you to vote.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. But this is probably the right-most bill possible, so those of us on the far left really can't support it.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 02:48 PM

emailing CR now but will wait to get an OK from him before I PM pass ( unless he said I can in the general thread, I am not caught up there yet)

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 02:50 PM

OK, I am going to initiate contact with PAss, should I tell him why our left most members are not going to vote for the bill?

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 02:52 PM

Pass' first PM, they are basicly using the same strategy as us

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Hey, I hear you're the liaison. Nice.

You might have already seen it in the thread, but as an FYI -- we're probably going to have the most conservative folks (me, clap, and Tyrith) vote against your bill. We still want it to pass, but we have to look out for our districts. I'm not exactly sure which matters more in terms of popularity -- being conservative in terms of opposing a BG bill, or doing what I can to get rid of wolves. I might abstain from the vote, but I haven't thought it through fully yet.

As I type this, it looks like mccollins has voted against our bill -- I think that's looking pretty wolfish. We're looking at our 3 or 4 most conservative people voting against the bill, with the idea of it still getting passed. But if mccollins leads a charge for our bill to fail, it screams wolf to me. Thoughts?

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 02:53 PM

Lathum - I bet that quoting PMs verbatim like that is a no-no. You might need to re-word them or at least check with CR.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 02:54 PM

The posts in the main forum stink of absurdity. Can't the GOP do basic math? Honestly, we want the bills to pass with a bare minimum of votes. Anyone who changes their vote to cause it to lose is a wolf.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 02:55 PM

Tell him our plan was to have our 4-5 most liberal members vote their bill down.
In addition, remind him that I'm the main person trying to hint that their bill might be unconstitutional and help them out.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 03:01 PM

chesapeake, this post was awesome ;-)

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

With respect, 10 votes is enough to pass. Any middlin' to conservative republican that votes for our bill is a dope.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:02 PM

this is what I sent.

we are basicly using the same strategy. Not sure on McCollins, he seems to be helping you by hinting the bill is unconstitutional.

We plan on having our 4-5 more liberal members vote no for your bill so it still passes, we obviously need a seer.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Lathum - I bet that quoting PMs verbatim like that is a no-no. You might need to re-word them or at least check with CR.

yeah, Apologies to CR about that

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:04 PM

/sigh I almost wish they had a better grasp of the rules but on the other hand screw those goofy repubs!

henry - don't forget to officially vote for me for speaker

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:09 PM

reading their bill I don't think CR will allow it, seems to powerfull a role

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

reading their bill I don't think CR will allow it, seems to powerfull a role

I agree and it really makes me question some of the Republican leadership for putting out such a questionable bill.

What do people think of my solution in case this seer bill doesn't pass and I am Speaker?

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 03:12 PM

The other side is having trouble differentiating between playing in character and playing the game. remember, they are Republicans and naturally a little slow. Most of their mothers probably dropped them on their respective heads when they were children.

If things get confused again, use plain speech.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 03:14 PM

I think they offer the bill in good faith. I am not convinced they have ulterior motives. But we may find out the hard way.

Is jeheinz this obtuse naturally, or is he trying to stir the pot? AKA -- does anyone else smell wolf?

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I think they offer the bill in good faith. I am not convinced they have ulterior motives. But we may find out the hard way.

Is jeheinz this obtuse naturally, or is he trying to stir the pot? AKA -- does anyone else smell wolf?

I haven't played a lot of werewolf with him (or much at all lately) so I can't speak on jeheinz.

It's hard to say about alterior motives when we don't know who crafted the bill, it could be someone other than leadership but they did submit it to vote.

henry296 · 07-22-2008, 03:19 PM

Lathum,

Ask them to run it by CR like us and see if they can amend.

henry296 · 07-22-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

/sigh I almost wish they had a better grasp of the rules but on the other hand screw those goofy repubs!

henry - don't forget to officially vote for me for speaker

just did

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Lathum,

Ask them to run it by CR like us and see if they can amend.

will do.

And Heinze is sharp as a tack, any time he comes across as obtuse he probably wants you to think he is.

He is one of the best players in WW.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:22 PM

If speaker votes are locked in as well (like bill votes) that would give me 10 and a majority.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:24 PM

what I sent

we ran our bill by CR before we put it to a public vote to get a feel for if it would pass. I suggest you do the same

Just remember, the wolves don't want the bill to pass, it is to their advantage for us to have to do it all again tomorrow.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:25 PM

also, Chubby, I like your post about proposing a new seer bill tomorrow if it doesn't pass, but be carefull that you don't sound to desperate to get the job.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

also, Chubby, I like your post about proposing a new seer bill tomorrow if it doesn't pass, but be carefull that you don't sound to desperate to get the job.

I know but we need a Seer in the game and it benefits our party to have the Speaker be a Dem. I got the feeling that that was what jeheinz was waiting for to vote for me as it was in his best interest to side with me over St Cronin and he was just posturing.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:27 PM

so we need 2 more YES votes on the repub bill for it to pass for sure it seems.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 03:29 PM

OK, I am out again for a while, be back to check in before I go to the game.

How about we do this,

anyone who wants me to PM something to Pass put it in lime

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 03:30 PM

1 more YES, KWhit missed my YES vote

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

1 more YES, KWhit missed my YES vote

Cronin and/or Mrs. Schmidty will put it over the top.

07-22-2008, 01:59 PM	#254
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Lathum - make sure you PM CR to let him know you are the liaison so you get the privileges to PM. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 03:19 PM	#290
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Lathum, Ask them to run it by CR like us and see if they can amend. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-22-2008, 01:55 PM	#251
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I will do my best to serve us proud!! I'll copy every PM back into the thread. Expect me to seek out alot of advice

07-22-2008, 01:56 PM	#252
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Interesting that the most conservative repubs are voting for our bill. They seem to be hurting themselves locally on a bill that should pass regardless... Here's my thoughts on slurry/support (since I can't find my original post) Support: 1 - our bill 2 - packerfanatic 3 - other (henry?) Slurry 1 - clap 2 - jeheinz72 3 - RendeR

07-22-2008, 01:58 PM	#253
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK< I am out for a bit then will be out a good portion of the night but then will be around most of the rest of the week.

07-22-2008, 02:02 PM	#255
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	well jeheinz is giving an opening to get him to vote for me as speaker. he IS the most centrist repub and I am closer to his beliefs than st cronin is... (2 steps away vs 4 steps away)

07-22-2008, 02:16 PM	#258
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	they really fucked up if their bill is deemed unconstitutional.

07-22-2008, 02:18 PM	#259
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah. It steps WAY out there, IMO. Those of you near the far left like me, lathum, chesapeake, mccollins, maybe path should probably vote no for it.

07-22-2008, 02:18 PM	#260
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	To score a major win, we need to be the most powerful party. But does assisting in the electoral defeat of Republicans sort of help the wolves more than we help ourselves?

07-22-2008, 02:22 PM	#264
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I dunno. We clearly have an advantage over them here. But will pressing it help the wolves too much? I say we let the day play out as it will with us taking advantage of what we can (to help us get a president elected from our party). At that point we can me a bit more helpful to their side.

07-22-2008, 02:41 PM	#273
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Lathum, tell Pass. that our left most members will probably never be voting for their bills. Half of the game seems to be voting the way your constituents would want you to vote.

07-22-2008, 02:48 PM	#275
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	emailing CR now but will wait to get an OK from him before I PM pass ( unless he said I can in the general thread, I am not caught up there yet)

07-22-2008, 02:50 PM	#276
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, I am going to initiate contact with PAss, should I tell him why our left most members are not going to vote for the bill?

07-22-2008, 02:53 PM	#278
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Lathum - I bet that quoting PMs verbatim like that is a no-no. You might need to re-word them or at least check with CR.

07-22-2008, 02:54 PM	#279
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	The posts in the main forum stink of absurdity. Can't the GOP do basic math? Honestly, we want the bills to pass with a bare minimum of votes. Anyone who changes their vote to cause it to lose is a wolf.

07-22-2008, 02:55 PM	#280
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Tell him our plan was to have our 4-5 most liberal members vote their bill down. In addition, remind him that I'm the main person trying to hint that their bill might be unconstitutional and help them out.

07-22-2008, 03:02 PM	#282
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	this is what I sent. we are basicly using the same strategy. Not sure on McCollins, he seems to be helping you by hinting the bill is unconstitutional. We plan on having our 4-5 more liberal members vote no for your bill so it still passes, we obviously need a seer.

07-22-2008, 03:04 PM	#284
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	/sigh I almost wish they had a better grasp of the rules but on the other hand screw those goofy repubs! henry - don't forget to officially vote for me for speaker

07-22-2008, 03:09 PM	#285
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	reading their bill I don't think CR will allow it, seems to powerfull a role

07-22-2008, 03:12 PM	#287
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	The other side is having trouble differentiating between playing in character and playing the game. remember, they are Republicans and naturally a little slow. Most of their mothers probably dropped them on their respective heads when they were children. If things get confused again, use plain speech.

07-22-2008, 03:14 PM	#288
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I think they offer the bill in good faith. I am not convinced they have ulterior motives. But we may find out the hard way. Is jeheinz this obtuse naturally, or is he trying to stir the pot? AKA -- does anyone else smell wolf?

07-22-2008, 03:22 PM	#293
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	If speaker votes are locked in as well (like bill votes) that would give me 10 and a majority.

07-22-2008, 03:24 PM	#294
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	what I sent we ran our bill by CR before we put it to a public vote to get a feel for if it would pass. I suggest you do the same Just remember, the wolves don't want the bill to pass, it is to their advantage for us to have to do it all again tomorrow.

07-22-2008, 03:25 PM	#295
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	also, Chubby, I like your post about proposing a new seer bill tomorrow if it doesn't pass, but be carefull that you don't sound to desperate to get the job.

07-22-2008, 03:27 PM	#297
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	so we need 2 more YES votes on the repub bill for it to pass for sure it seems.

07-22-2008, 03:29 PM	#298
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, I am out again for a while, be back to check in before I go to the game. How about we do this, anyone who wants me to PM something to Pass put it in lime

07-22-2008, 03:30 PM	#299
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	1 more YES, KWhit missed my YES vote

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