Werewolf XXXVIII: Jack The Ripper (GAME OVER! GOOD WINS ON DAY SEVEN) - Page 7

BrianD · 11-28-2006, 07:46 PM

I have no real reason to suspect JE, but I guess we need a lynch to learn from.

Vote Jonathan Ezarik

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Are you a special role? It sure doesnt sound like it, but now would be a good time to speak up. If your not, dont lie..it will only hurt the team in the long run

I'm the Artful Dodger. I work for Fagin but have no idea who he is. I gather intelligence for him, but I'm good.

Lorena · 11-28-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

And yet people gladly took their votes off Izulde just because Fouts said so. Interesting.

It looks like I'm the one to go, and that's cool. I'm all for a lynch tonight, and while I hoped it wouldn't be me, so be it. I hope you guys learn something from this because you're about to lose one good guy.

I feel a little bad voting for you because I feel you're one of the better players but if Izulde had the same number of votes, I'd probably vote for him.

If Izulde ends dying sometime at some point during the game and turns out to be evil, I'll be looking in a different direction.

path12 · 11-28-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I understand, RA. I just find it odd that people are so quick to believe Fouts for no reason.

A vouch can be verified later, and isn't worth risking a lynch on day 1. I think it's something like that rather than full faith in what Fouts says.

Barkeep49 · 11-28-2006, 07:50 PM

Sweet. We've back into killing a bad guy ally. An acceptable D1 result.

path12 · 11-28-2006, 07:50 PM

I've gotta go. Hope we get something.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Sweet. We've back into killing a bad guy ally. An acceptable D1 result.

How so? I do Fagin's dirty work, but I'm good. At least I could be used to figure out who he is.

Fouts · 11-28-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I understand, RA. I just find it odd that people are so quick to believe Fouts for no reason.

On that note:

UNVOTE ntndeacon

VOTE Izulde

I think you need to build trust. Not just show up when things go bad. If Izulde and I were both bad guys, I surely wouldn't vouch for him.

st.cronin · 11-28-2006, 07:52 PM

It would be a very strange wolf play to do what Fouts has done, basically vouching for a player who was on the block.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I think you need to build trust. Not just show up when things go bad. If Izulde and I were both bad guys, I surely wouldn't vouch for him.

Kind of hard to build trust in your second game and you get lynched on the first day.

BrianD · 11-28-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It would be a very strange wolf play to do what Fouts has done, basically vouching for a player who was on the block.

I must have missed this in my quick read, who did Fouts vouch for?

saldana · 11-28-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I'm the Artful Dodger. I work for Fagin but have no idea who he is. I gather intelligence for him, but I'm good.

i have a hard time with this reveal....the list of roles is rather huge, and says not all of the roles may appear in the game, so what you are asking us to believe is that you have role that wasnt even listed....imo, you had to come up with something that no one else could possibly have, so you pulled a Dickens character out of no where to claim, sort of lathum's pony express rider move.

Barkeep49 · 11-28-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

How so? I do Fagin's dirty work, but I'm good. At least I could be used to figure out who he is.

You help Fagin. Fagin is a bad guy. Ergo, whether you yourself are good or bad you do the work of those who wish to harm us.

Fouts · 11-28-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Kind of hard to build trust in your second game and you get lynched on the first day.

I meant in the game, not over a series of games. I started building trust with my posts this morning. Once the time came, I gave my (semi-trusted) opinion on somebody who was on the block.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i have a hard time with this reveal....the list of roles is rather huge, and says not all of the roles may appear in the game, so what you are asking us to believe is that you have role that wasnt even listed....imo, you had to come up with something that no one else could possibly have, so you pulled a Dickens character out of no where to claim, sort of lathum's pony express rider move.

Well, the Fagin character is listed. But I guess you'll find out shortly when I'm lynched that I was telling the truth.

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Kind of hard to build trust in your second game and you get lynched on the first day.

You know what i always like to do? Wait 3 games until he forgets it ever happened, then go out of my way to get him killed early and laugh it off...ahh, good times, eh lathum?

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You help Fagin. Fagin is a bad guy. Ergo, whether you yourself are good or bad you do the work of those who wish to harm us.

By gathering intelligence? I can also be used to help the good guys since I know who Fagin's going after.

Chief Rum · 11-28-2006, 07:57 PM

Time check

Fouts · 11-28-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Well, the Fagin character is listed. But I guess you'll find out shortly when I'm lynched that I was telling the truth.

FWIW, I believe you. Unfortunately, the mob needs to be fed.

st.cronin · 11-28-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I must have missed this in my quick read, who did Fouts vouch for?

There was a run of votes on Izulde, and Fouts came out and claimed he was a villager.

Mr. Wednesday · 11-28-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Sweet. We've back into killing a bad guy ally. An acceptable D1 result.

Re-read the roles -- Fagin is bad, but the urchins are good.

Fouts · 11-28-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Time check

Not even close.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I meant in the game, not over a series of games. I started building trust with my posts this morning. Once the time came, I gave my (semi-trusted) opinion on somebody who was on the block.

Gotcha. But this is how I play. I'm pretty quiet and if this is going to be a problem I'm always going to be lynched early. I don't have anyone to vouch for so how can I build trust?

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

FWIW, I believe you. Unfortunately, the mob needs to be fed.

I understand completely. I'm all for a lynch tonight, just wish it wasn't me.

Mr. Wednesday · 11-28-2006, 08:00 PM

You just have to accept that in most games, somebody's going to get unjustly lynched early. Today, it's you.

Fouts · 11-28-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Gotcha. But this is how I play. I'm pretty quiet and if this is going to be a problem I'm always going to be lynched early. I don't have anyone to vouch for so how can I build trust?

Reveal some of who you are. Something that is helpful to the villagers, but not too helpful. If you seem too helpful, you are a night kill. While I rarely get lynched, I die at night all the time.

Raiders Army · 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM

The role is so outrageous it sounds real enough...who knows at this point.

Chief Rum · 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM

Final check

Tyrith · 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Gotcha. But this is how I play. I'm pretty quiet and if this is going to be a problem I'm always going to be lynched early. I don't have anyone to vouch for so how can I build trust?

Usually the vote progression goes like this:

d1: someone who hasn't voted
d2-d4: random loud people who will complain, or people that make a tiny tiny slip
d5: actual trust based gameplay

This is a horrible generalization, of course, not including stuff like witnesses and the like, but there usually isn't a big rush to crush people that are semi-talkative early.

bulletsponge · 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM

i feel sorry for ya Jon. this is my first game ive played with ya and it looks like it will be very short.

Chief Rum · 11-28-2006, 08:02 PM

The deadline is here. Voting is closed.

Tyrith · 11-28-2006, 08:02 PM

This day 1 has been kinda weird. I don't know why people kept voting for JE over Izulde at the end....

Tyrith · 11-28-2006, 08:02 PM

WTF, I'm stupid, I forgot about fouts. WHATEVER. I HATE WW :P

Mr. Wednesday · 11-28-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i have a hard time with this reveal....the list of roles is rather huge, and says not all of the roles may appear in the game, so what you are asking us to believe is that you have role that wasnt even listed....imo, you had to come up with something that no one else could possibly have, so you pulled a Dickens character out of no where to claim, sort of lathum's pony express rider move.

Well... I don't think it's necessarily that ridiculous. The Artful Dodger was one of the urchins, and I'd presume his function is as such, maybe more skilled as a pickpocket than usual. It's not made up out of whole cloth like Lathum's reveal.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Reveal some of who you are. Something that is helpful to the villagers, but not too helpful. If you seem too helpful, you are a night kill. While I rarely get lynched, I die at night all the time.

Do a reveal when I'm not on the line? I revealed when I was asked, but no one cared. Oh, well. No big deal. Good luck to the good guys.

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Well... I don't think it's necessarily that ridiculous. The Artful Dodger was one of the urchins, and I'd presume his function is as such, maybe more skilled as a pickpocket than usual. It's not made up out of whole cloth like Lathum's reveal.

I believe his reveal, though i think its a role we can lose as im not sure how helpful to good it will be. I believe it though

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 08:06 PM

JE, sorry you had to go early...i promise next game i will do everything in my power to ensure you last awhile longer

saldana · 11-28-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

JE, sorry you had to go early...i promise next game i will do everything in my power to ensure you last awhile longer

nice...you never help me last more than 2 days

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 08:08 PM

No hard feelings, guys and gals. I should have come on earlier today and said that I was busy with work and wouldn't be able to really get involved until later. Live and learn, eh?

st.cronin · 11-28-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I believe his reveal, though i think its a role we can lose as im not sure how helpful to good it will be. I believe it though

ditto

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

nice...you never help me last more than 2 days

but i dont like you, so why would i?

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 08:11 PM

joking sal, much love

saldana · 11-28-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

but i dont like you, so why would i?

i find your lack of smiley disturbing

is it too late to change my vote?

BrianD · 11-28-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

No hard feelings, guys and gals. I should have come on earlier today and said that I was busy with work and wouldn't be able to really get involved until later. Live and learn, eh?

If it is any consolation, people don't normally get first-day lynched twice in a row. The next game you play should come with a sympathy no-vote for at least the first day.

Lorena · 11-28-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

No hard feelings, guys and gals. I should have come on earlier today and said that I was busy with work and wouldn't be able to really get involved until later. Live and learn, eh?

I certainly hope you sign up for more games in future, it is unfortunate it ended this way

Raiders Army · 11-28-2006, 08:16 PM

I'm not sure it's over yet. Did he have enough votes? This play for sympathy could be strategy for tomorrow.

saldana · 11-28-2006, 08:19 PM

i think CR is writing "a tale of two cities"

Blade6119 · 11-28-2006, 08:19 PM

8 on the dime i believe RA

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-28-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I certainly hope you sign up for more games in future, it is unfortunate it ended this way

Oh, I'm in for the next game. And I'll be so freakin' vocal that you all will lynch me just to shut me up.

Chief Rum · 11-28-2006, 08:22 PM

Results finalized. Writeup coming in a couple minutes.

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11-28-2006, 07:46 PM	#301
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I have no real reason to suspect JE, but I guess we need a lynch to learn from. Vote Jonathan Ezarik

11-28-2006, 07:50 PM	#305
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Sweet. We've back into killing a bad guy ally. An acceptable D1 result.

11-28-2006, 08:01 PM	#327
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	The role is so outrageous it sounds real enough...who knows at this point.

11-28-2006, 08:01 PM	#330
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	i feel sorry for ya Jon. this is my first game ive played with ya and it looks like it will be very short.

11-28-2006, 08:02 PM	#331
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	The deadline is here. Voting is closed. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

11-28-2006, 08:02 PM	#332
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	This day 1 has been kinda weird. I don't know why people kept voting for JE over Izulde at the end....

11-28-2006, 08:02 PM	#333
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	WTF, I'm stupid, I forgot about fouts. WHATEVER. I HATE WW :P

11-28-2006, 08:06 PM	#337
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11-28-2006, 08:08 PM	#339
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	No hard feelings, guys and gals. I should have come on earlier today and said that I was busy with work and wouldn't be able to really get involved until later. Live and learn, eh?

11-28-2006, 08:11 PM	#342
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	joking sal, much love __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-28-2006, 08:16 PM	#346
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm not sure it's over yet. Did he have enough votes? This play for sympathy could be strategy for tomorrow.

11-28-2006, 08:19 PM	#347
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11-28-2006, 08:19 PM	#348
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	8 on the dime i believe RA __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-28-2006, 08:22 PM	#350
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Results finalized. Writeup coming in a couple minutes. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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