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Old 04-22-2009, 02:51 PM   #701
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Unvote Danny

Pass could a wolf do a night kill and get voted out at the same time

I don't think I can answer that one.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:51 PM   #702
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dubb. by theway you are wrong about my/Bks role. we are not the Phoenix. since you are so sure that I was, that tells me that Danny must be.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:53 PM   #703
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I think Danny was using his ability as Phoenix as a trump card in case we killed him. I believe the duking was to give him an extra amount of clout
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:53 PM   #704
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:54 PM   #705
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I think Danny was using his ability as Phoenix as a trump card in case we killed him. I believe the duking was to give him an extra amount of clout

For what? The city would have been destroyed
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:55 PM   #706
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yea I noticed Athen's demise as well dubb. which makes this an even more important vote.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:56 PM   #707
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my thought that is that Athens was closer than we see now and that the wolves victory was not assured.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:01 PM   #708
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I will be back on in about 30-45 min to discuss further.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:03 PM   #709
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I guess I'll go along NtN. I think we have to play this down to 2 as I said days ago even if we are down to 3 villagers. If for no other reason than to send more villagers to Hades. We have to win both this and Hades now. Also someone will need to go to Hades to tell them Jackal is a wolf and clap is a villager.

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Old 04-22-2009, 03:04 PM   #710
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Although if Danny is a wolf he has to go. NtN is cleared by the seer and I know I'm a villager so that does leave Danny there.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:06 PM   #711
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I don't think I can answer that one.

Understood.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:07 PM   #712
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dubb. by theway you are wrong about my/Bks role. we are not the Phoenix. since you are so sure that I was, that tells me that Danny must be.

I am not the Phoenix
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:08 PM   #713
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I am not the Phoenix

I'm not the phoenix either. Is it possible the phoenix doesn't know he is until he is killed?
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:09 PM   #714
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Phoenix – Each city will have a Phoenix, who will return to their original city if they are killed while in Hades. When they are killed in Athens or Sparta, they will be revealed as a Phoenix, but their allegiance will not be revealed.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:09 PM   #715
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I guess I'll go along NtN. I think we have to play this down to 2 as I said days ago even if we are down to 3 villagers. If for no other reason than to send more villagers to Hades. We have to win both this and Hades now. Also someone will need to go to Hades to tell them Jackal is a wolf and clap is a villager.

Vote Danny

I really don't know if the wolves are gone from here or not, but you're right in that it helps to vote one of us down to Hades. But it is also convenient if you do happen to be the wolf. I'm not really sure what to do right now because I have felt you to be good all game, but so far everything you've done has helped the wolves.
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:11 PM   #716
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I really don't know if the wolves are gone from here or not, but you're right in that it helps to vote one of us down to Hades. But it is also convenient if you do happen to be the wolf. I'm not really sure what to do right now because I have felt you to be good all game, but so far everything you've done has helped the wolves.

Disagree conversation is the villages best friend. If nothing else I'm forced people to converse which was my goal from the start with this being a small game.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:38 PM   #717
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I will be back on in about 30-45 min to discuss further.

What did you want to discuss? It seems you never came back.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:39 AM   #718
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I got involved with a another conversation and did not get back on til now... plus I had trivia.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:54 AM   #719
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I'm not sure what there is to discuss. Either we got all the wolves or either Danny or I is a wolf. I'm a villager, Danny has made villager players, and you are cleared by the seer. I believe we have to play this down to two and then sit on it though so someone has to go to hades and it makes sense to send either danny or I, whoever you believe is more likely to be wolf NtN.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:55 AM   #720
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I'm a villager, Danny has made villager plays

corrected.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:39 AM   #721
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Hey guys, made a little (okay, big) mistake with the reveal. The Jackal should have come up as a Phoenix, but I had just come back from a meeting, then tried to come right back in and get everything done as quickly as possible, and ended up revealing him as a wolf instead of a phoenix. Sorry about that!
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:12 AM   #722
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Hey guys, made a little (okay, big) mistake with the reveal. The Jackal should have come up as a Phoenix, but I had just come back from a meeting, then tried to come right back in and get everything done as quickly as possible, and ended up revealing him as a wolf instead of a phoenix. Sorry about that!

So basically you didn't mean to reveal him as a wolf until after he came back and we killed him again?
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:25 AM   #723
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Well, if he had been revealed only as a phoenix, you might not have killed him again!
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:33 AM   #724
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Well, if he had been revealed only as a phoenix, you might not have killed him again!

I don't think you have anything to worry about Pass. I don't think in the end your flub up will affect anything at all. Either Danny or I was going to be the lynch today anyway and assuming the wolves don't win Sparta today anyone that returns was going to be lynched anyway. No harm no foul.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:44 PM   #725
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all right. then I guess we play the waiting game to see if the right call was made.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:09 PM   #726
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Vote Dubb


Hopefully Dubb isn't playing us to get me lynched
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:57 PM   #727
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Hopefully Dubb isn't playing us to get me lynched

I'm not playing anyone. NtN was the first to vote you and I followed. Either you are a wolf or we have cleared Sparta of wolves. It's just a matter of waiting 3 minutes to find out. I have a feeling that if you were a wolf you would be fighting, but maybe not. If you are a wolf no one is going to be going to Hades to rat you out I guess. Not until we've actually killed Jackal again atleast.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:03 PM   #728
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My major fear has been a cunning role from NtN but I've gone through the rules multiple times and have not seen a way that is possible. Sorry danny, shit just happens sometimes. If you are a villager I think you will be happy that we won Sparta and you can go to Hades and fight the good fight. If you are a wolf atleast you get to go to Hades with the good seer believing you are a villager. That has to count for something. Just remember as soon as Jackal is gone from here I'll be heading that way to shit on your parade if you are a wolf.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:07 PM   #729
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You all lynch Danny and find that he is a wolf!
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:12 PM   #730
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Also, you guys heard word that the wolves have fled Hades.

The villagers win!
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:15 PM   #731
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:16 PM   #732
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How anti-climatic. I demand a re-do
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:17 PM   #733
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How anti-climatic. I demand a re-do

I must say, I was looking forward to shitting on Danny's parade at some point in Hades.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:22 PM   #734
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dubb - we would have known danny was the wolf in hades had the game continued, because if had been a villager the game would have been over. so he was already in line to be lynched.

we also had all the wolves pegged down in hades except for jackal (we didn't realize he was the wolf-phoenix but i guess we would have gotten to that eventually) thanks to good sharing of information
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:16 PM   #735
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dubb, you'll be the recipient of all my day one votes from now on because you have played a very, very dangerous villager game IMHO. If you're a wolf, well played. If you're a villager, horrible miscalculation.

I'm going to hold you to this, PB. I'm tired of getting all of your early votes.
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