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Old 12-13-2019, 06:41 PM   #201
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Just my perspective ...

I'm sure party leadership had a role but this time the Brits understood what was at stake. This vote was Brexit or not and the leadership was secondary.

So with full awareness of consequences, the issues discussed ad-nauseum, the voters have spoken with as much education as a population could have.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:06 PM   #202
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Just my perspective ...

I'm sure party leadership had a role but this time the Brits understood what was at stake. This vote was Brexit or not and the leadership was secondary.

So with full awareness of consequences, the issues discussed ad-nauseum, the voters have spoken with as much education as a population could have.

From what I could find and simplifying it to fit into 2 groups:

Pro-Brexit Parties
Conservative Party - 43.6%
Democratic Unionist Party - 0.8% (but wants a new negotiated deal)
Brexit Party - 2% (is pro-hard Brexit. Leave with no deal)
UKIP - 0.1%

Total: 46.5%


Pro-Stay Parties
Labour Party - 32.2% (said they wanted another public vote, and if have to leave, wants to remain in the EU Customs union to retain single market)
Scottish National Party - 3.9%
Liberal Democrats - 11.6% (wanted to outright cancel Brexit)
Sinn Fein - 0.6% (also wants Northern Ireland to unify with Ireland)
Plaid Cymru - 0.5%
Green party 2.7% (wants to stay, supports another public vote)

Total: 51.5%

With "Other Parties" at 2%, who knows where they stand.

So while the Conservatives cleaned up in the election and gained a majority of seats (I have no idea how seats are awarded), if we're talking about "the voters have spoken", more people in the UK voted for a Pro-Stay party than they did a Pro-Brexit party (unless I missed something or Google is wrong on their counting of the votes). FWIW.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:56 PM   #203
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So while the Conservatives cleaned up in the election and gained a majority of seats (I have no idea how seats are awarded), if we're talking about "the voters have spoken", more people in the UK voted for a Pro-Stay party than they did a Pro-Brexit party (unless I missed something or Google is wrong on their counting of the votes). FWIW.

Thanks for the analysis. So the remain/stay was in the majority but got their vote split.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:00 PM   #204
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(I have no idea how seats are awarded)

First past the post, in 650 constituencies (think "districts" in U.S. terms). Those average about 70,000 eligible voters each.

No runoffs, simply the top vote getter wins.

(this is why Brexit's decision not to contest any seat held by a Conservative party member tipped the scales a bit)
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:09 PM   #205
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So the remain/stay was in the majority but got their vote split.

Key phrase here is "of the combined total" but what I can't find so far* is a complete list showing percentages for the winner in each constituency.

In other words, I can't tell from what I've found if this is:

a) kinda like the U.S. popular vote total favoring the loser because of high concentrations in a few districts

or

b) kinda the opposite of that, where the winners squeaked by with 33.4% victories in a lot of districts

*Wiki has a table organized that way but it only has a handful of totals by constituency, the rest are still blank.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:52 PM   #206
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Congratulations Brits for making a decision (hopefully once and for all). Good luck to our best buds over the pond (other than the recent Huawei news I guess).

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...ntl/index.html
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Nearly four years after the UK voted to leave the European Union, Brexit has finally happened.

As the clock struck 11.00.p.m. GMT, the Article 50 process by which a member state leaves the EU expired and the UK has now entered the transition process it agreed with the bloc. For the first time ever, the EU is down a member state. It's a monumental moment that will go down in history, for better or worse.
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Old 07-08-2022, 01:07 AM   #207
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And wow


we now have the brexit of Big Retard Boris Johnson
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:33 AM   #208
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Wonder if there'll be plans to rollback some of the Brexit stuff now.
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:34 AM   #209
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Probably not, in fact, I fully expect Tories to have "We need to Brexit harder!" as one of their core platforms.
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:31 AM   #210
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actually i guess i was wrong he didn't actually resign?
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:39 AM   #211
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actually i guess i was wrong he didn't actually resign?

I think he's waiting for his replacement to get picked before officially resigning.
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:40 AM   #212
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