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Arbitrage opportunities in the Election Prediction Markets
I just read a dandy article about the differences between sites that predict the election (ala 538) which mentioned the disconnect between them and the prediction markets (Predictit.org).
For example, prediction sites have Biden with a 51% chance to win Florida while the markets have Trump as the favorite ($.51). More illustrative may be the difference between the chances prediction sites give Trump to win outright (1% - 10%) and the prices in the markets ($.42). So I am now mulling over whether it would be profitable to put a chunk of money into market and take advantage of a seemingly ridiculously low price for Biden to win at $.58 given the prediction sites say it ought to be more like $.90 This can be gamed out to scenarios where Trump is given a non-zero chance to win DC by the market when we know in reality it is exactly and undeniably zero - the catch here is you're betting 99 cents to win a dollar so the return is less than optimal. I'd love to hear the FOFC groupthink |
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11-02-2020, 10:19 AM | #2 |
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I should point out that Biden winning DC is actually $.95, so there's a nickel to be had were I to wager the 95 cents.
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11-02-2020, 01:14 PM | #3 |
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On Bovada there is the ability to bet on Biden/Trump to win x number of the 10 "battleground states".
Assuming you don't think there's going to be a sweep (which I don't), the best odds are +500 and the worst are at +950. Not arbitrage exactly, but if you discount the extreme scenarios, could be an opportunity.
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11-02-2020, 01:17 PM | #4 |
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As for what you're talking about, it sounds like getting into "bet 1000 to win 10" type of territory.
I guess if it's an absolute guarantee, great. But what if they void one side of the bet for some reason. There's always risk.
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11-02-2020, 01:21 PM | #5 |
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Keep in mind, there's a 5% rake (fee) on withdrawals from the PredictIt site. So, if you have a money-making scheme, it needs to overcome that, and also go deep enough at current prices to merit the time and attention.
Most of the opportunities I have found there fail one or both tests. I play around on PredictIt quite a bit, but am only interested in fairly broad-margin plays. Right now the "best" mismatch market I'm in is in NC, where 538 says 65% blue, and PredictIt says 54% red. But the betting markets are leaning red more than just about any polls-only source. |
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11-02-2020, 11:35 PM | #7 |
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Went for 3 bets. Dems to win by 30-59 EVs (+1800) or 60-99 EVs (+1500).
And Dems to win N. Carolina, +130.
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11-03-2020, 12:54 AM | #8 |
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At different times Ive invested in...
Biden -144 Biden by 100-149EVs+525 Popular Vote Dems by 6.0-7.5 +669 Biden to win Fla +133 Fla smallest margin of victory +733 North Carolina small margin of victory +733 Biden to win North Carolina +104 Democrats Clean Sweep +100 'Tipping Point' Florida +525 House Seats won by Dems 234-237 +669 Trump wins any state he lost in 2016(No) -156 Iowa Senate smallest Margin of Victory +614 Ernst to win Iowa Senate +133 Daines to win Montana Senate +156 Markets on Predict It..... Last edited by jbergey22 : 11-03-2020 at 01:02 AM. |
11-03-2020, 12:59 AM | #9 |
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11-03-2020, 11:43 AM | #11 |
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Bovada. Sadly a $10 limit
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11-03-2020, 11:49 AM | #12 |
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They now have O/U on EVs... 310.5 is the mark for Biden, and Under is slightly favored.
128.5 for Trump and the over is -700. That's an odd mark to set. Also the odds for Biden have gone from -155 at its lowest the last few days to -190 today.
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11-03-2020, 11:52 AM | #13 |
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I have:
Biden wins popular vote by more than 10.5% (.19) Biden wins Florida (.42) Biden wins NC (.50) Biden wins PA (.58) Biden wins IA (.30) I could've waited longer on Iowa and got a much better price, but I have a better price than the 538 odds in each market.
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11-03-2020, 01:39 PM | #14 |
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Last I saw Biden was -220 on Betonline
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11-03-2020, 01:56 PM | #15 |
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It's up to -210 on Bovada
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11-03-2020, 03:08 PM | #16 |
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Overall, PredictIt market steady at 65-41 Biden... no real movement today, everything is noise, no signal
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11-03-2020, 03:23 PM | #17 |
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