2002 Off-season (Season exports due Sat night at 10pm EST) - Page 3

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 10:58 AM

I am going to completely uninstall ootp9 and then re-install and see if that fixes it. Since it seems to be an issue with my side or my team in the league file. If an uninstall doesn't fix it, then it has to be the league file.

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 03:36 PM

I got confused by my own posting. In part because things have kept changing -- and because I'm at work and it's a bad combination to try to think about all of this, with the real stuff I have going on.

So sorry, you all were right. Sim was supposed to be tonight and I said I'd sim the regular season tomorrow night. My bad.

So carry on as you were. Exports are due tonight at 10, I'll sim through ST sometime after that and then the season will be tomorrow night.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 05:28 PM

Completely uninstalled ootp9 and deleted all folders/saved games/everything on my system to do with ootp9.

Installed fresh ootp9. Loaded the fool files.

Made no changes to my team, exported successfully, import still fails.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:04 PM

Got a completely different system and updated ootp on it (it was still 9.2.2 from way back when) and loaded the league file on it. Same thing. I can upload to the ftp and then try to import from ftp I get the same error.

Seems that it is a problem with something in the league file having to do with the team. Meaning likely nothing I can fix.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Logging into someone else's team I am able to export locally to disk and re-import fine on both systems. (Didn't upload to ftp to test that as I did not want to mess up their export). However the local export/import works without a problem for other teams besides Valdosta.

It either is something messed up with my human_managers account or with the Valdosta team inside of the league file.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:35 PM

DC, you'll have to test this since I don't have the access to.

Can you assign my human_manager account to one of the AI controlled teams and attempt an export/import. Also try to assign a different manager to Valdosta and do the export/import... So we can see if it is my account messed up, or the team itself?

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 06:43 PM

Here, download this human_managers.dat file and overwrite yours and see how that works for you.

http://www.omnivore.us/human_managers.dat

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

DC, you'll have to test this since I don't have the access to.

Can you assign my human_manager account to one of the AI controlled teams and attempt an export/import. Also try to assign a different manager to Valdosta and do the export/import... So we can see if it is my account messed up, or the team itself?

I'll do that now. Good idea.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Here, download this human_managers.dat file and overwrite yours and see how that works for you.

http://www.omnivore.us/human_managers.dat

Trying now, but the more I play with it, the more I think it is the team. Even an export changing nothing for Valdosta is only half the size of most normal "valid" exports are.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:46 PM

yeah, same behavior with that human_managers.dat file. Invalid files for exports both locally and via ftp

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 06:56 PM

If it's the team, what would you like me to do? I'm waiting for my game to load now, so I can test the other idea.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

If it's the team, what would you like me to do? I'm waiting for my game to load now, so I can test the other idea.

I am trying to remember what options there are for db management within the league file.

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 07:00 PM

The easiest thing would be for me to create a new team for you and delete the corrupt team and to move all of your players from the corrupt team to the new one before getting rid of it.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 07:04 PM

Yeah, I guess that is the only thing I can think of if it is indeed the team. Should be easy enough to know for sure based on the tests you are going to do.

I am looking through the game functions, and not really much I can find that would be causing this. I guess you could send me a sql dump configured for ms access for me to look at the dat files that way, but no telling if I would find anything there, and if I did find something, how I would fix it.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 07:30 PM

Any luck testing? Did you figure out if it is the account or the team that is the culprit?

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 07:51 PM

It was the team, as we figured. I changed the owner of Valdosta to my account and I couldn't export/import or anything.

So I created a new team, moved all of the players to the minors, assigned those affiliates to the new Peanuts, deleted the broken team and then assigned you as the Lord of all Peanutia.

I tried exporting and importing locally as you and had no issues. So you should be good to go now.

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 07:51 PM

I'm uploading a stage file just for you that you can download and access your team, it'll be up here in a few minutes and when it is, I'll let you know.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I'm uploading a stage file just for you that you can download and access your team, it'll be up here in a few minutes and when it is, I'll let you know.

Ok thanks for the help, I'll make it quick so it can be done by 10. I won't go through and make all of the changes I did before.

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 08:02 PM

File is up.

Alan T · 01-09-2009, 08:48 PM

Uploaded my file and test-downloaded it with success... I can't express how frustrated I am with OOTP right now.

muns · 01-09-2009, 09:14 PM

I wanted to ECHO peoples posts about keeping this going DC, and for people not just throwing their hands up and quitting..... im looking forward to following from the back seat for a bit.... Hope everyone had a happy new year!

Young Drachma · 01-09-2009, 10:01 PM

Exports from Atlanta, Boston, Colorado, Napa Valley and Valdosta

Anthony · 01-10-2009, 11:06 AM

sounds like you should've contracted to 8 teams.

Alan T · 01-10-2009, 11:30 AM

DC, I think you have it keep/include/send messages for only the last 30 days in the league file. We need it closer to 200 or 250 to see all of our messages. That is why we aren't seeing the information on who turned down or accepted contract offers/etc.

Young Drachma · 01-10-2009, 12:59 PM

Well that was a recent change. In the past, it's always been 0,0,0,200. But for the most recent file, I turned it down JUST to see if that would shrink the file size on my machine. But as I did it, I discovered the problem. For some reason, on my machine OOTP thinks it needs to generate 4000+ images and so, it just stops creating the archive. On my work machine, that doesn't happen. So all I have to do on my home machine to get it to generate the archive file in-game, is to turn off the upload new images button.

So future files will have all of the messages and everything. The reason past files didn't have messages was because I was manually creating an archive that ONLY had the .dat files in it.

Bottom line of all of those words is...future files will work as they are/were supposed to.

Alan T · 01-10-2009, 01:28 PM

I was mapping out my pitching rotation for this season and noticed that we have a 162 game schedule. I wasn't sure if that is what the league is playing now, or if it is supposed to be a 154 game schedule?

I'm submitting my file set up for the 162 game schedule, so hoping if it is supposed to be 154 game, we can wait till next season to change it back. (I'm likely not going to be around to change it later today if a new file with the new schedule is put up).

Young Drachma · 01-10-2009, 01:30 PM

We swapped to 162 last year. It was a function of the realignment, as all of the other schedules I found were interleague and I didn't think folks wanted that.

Alan T · 01-10-2009, 01:37 PM

Ok cool no problem here then. Just making sure.

I'm exported for tonight and tested it to verify that I could re-import from the FTP so I am all good to go.

I have really only looked at the players on this team for 2 or 3 days now, so not really sure what they are capable of. Playing it mostly safe this season, giving many people chances to play. (have all 14 hitters listed as a starter in one of my two lineups), which means pretty much playing 6 platoons. That probably will mean I won't compete this season, but considering Valdosta finished dead last in all of FOOL last year before I took them back over again, I decided it best to determine who I can and can not count on moreso than trying to compete for 3rd or 4th place rather than 6th place.

I'd be suprised if I finish dead last again this year, I actually have no idea how the AI managed that feat last year but I'll be looking forward to seeing how this team plays. I think I have an extremely deep outfield talentwise, but my infield is extremely thin. My pitching is only average, but I absolutely love the pitchers I drafted this year and think that will be something I can fix in the next two seasons.

01-09-2009, 10:58 AM	#101
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I am going to completely uninstall ootp9 and then re-install and see if that fixes it. Since it seems to be an issue with my side or my team in the league file. If an uninstall doesn't fix it, then it has to be the league file. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 05:28 PM	#103
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Completely uninstalled ootp9 and deleted all folders/saved games/everything on my system to do with ootp9. Installed fresh ootp9. Loaded the fool files. Made no changes to my team, exported successfully, import still fails. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 06:04 PM	#104
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Got a completely different system and updated ootp on it (it was still 9.2.2 from way back when) and loaded the league file on it. Same thing. I can upload to the ftp and then try to import from ftp I get the same error. Seems that it is a problem with something in the league file having to do with the team. Meaning likely nothing I can fix. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 06:33 PM	#105
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Logging into someone else's team I am able to export locally to disk and re-import fine on both systems. (Didn't upload to ftp to test that as I did not want to mess up their export). However the local export/import works without a problem for other teams besides Valdosta. It either is something messed up with my human_managers account or with the Valdosta team inside of the league file. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 06:35 PM	#106
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	DC, you'll have to test this since I don't have the access to. Can you assign my human_manager account to one of the AI controlled teams and attempt an export/import. Also try to assign a different manager to Valdosta and do the export/import... So we can see if it is my account messed up, or the team itself? __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 03:36 PM	#102
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I got confused by my own posting. In part because things have kept changing -- and because I'm at work and it's a bad combination to try to think about all of this, with the real stuff I have going on. So sorry, you all were right. Sim was supposed to be tonight and I said I'd sim the regular season tomorrow night. My bad. So carry on as you were. Exports are due tonight at 10, I'll sim through ST sometime after that and then the season will be tomorrow night.

01-09-2009, 06:43 PM	#107
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Here, download this human_managers.dat file and overwrite yours and see how that works for you. http://www.omnivore.us/human_managers.dat

01-09-2009, 06:46 PM	#110
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	yeah, same behavior with that human_managers.dat file. Invalid files for exports both locally and via ftp __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 06:56 PM	#111
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	If it's the team, what would you like me to do? I'm waiting for my game to load now, so I can test the other idea.

01-09-2009, 07:00 PM	#113
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	The easiest thing would be for me to create a new team for you and delete the corrupt team and to move all of your players from the corrupt team to the new one before getting rid of it.

01-09-2009, 07:04 PM	#114
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Yeah, I guess that is the only thing I can think of if it is indeed the team. Should be easy enough to know for sure based on the tests you are going to do. I am looking through the game functions, and not really much I can find that would be causing this. I guess you could send me a sql dump configured for ms access for me to look at the dat files that way, but no telling if I would find anything there, and if I did find something, how I would fix it. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 07:30 PM	#115
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Any luck testing? Did you figure out if it is the account or the team that is the culprit? __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 07:51 PM	#116
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	It was the team, as we figured. I changed the owner of Valdosta to my account and I couldn't export/import or anything. So I created a new team, moved all of the players to the minors, assigned those affiliates to the new Peanuts, deleted the broken team and then assigned you as the Lord of all Peanutia. I tried exporting and importing locally as you and had no issues. So you should be good to go now.

01-09-2009, 07:51 PM	#117
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'm uploading a stage file just for you that you can download and access your team, it'll be up here in a few minutes and when it is, I'll let you know.

01-09-2009, 08:02 PM	#119
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	File is up.

01-09-2009, 08:48 PM	#120
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Uploaded my file and test-downloaded it with success... I can't express how frustrated I am with OOTP right now. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-09-2009, 09:14 PM	#121
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	I wanted to ECHO peoples posts about keeping this going DC, and for people not just throwing their hands up and quitting..... im looking forward to following from the back seat for a bit.... Hope everyone had a happy new year!

01-09-2009, 10:01 PM	#122
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Exports from Atlanta, Boston, Colorado, Napa Valley and Valdosta

01-10-2009, 11:06 AM	#123
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	sounds like you should've contracted to 8 teams.

01-10-2009, 11:30 AM	#124
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	DC, I think you have it keep/include/send messages for only the last 30 days in the league file. We need it closer to 200 or 250 to see all of our messages. That is why we aren't seeing the information on who turned down or accepted contract offers/etc. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-10-2009, 12:59 PM	#125
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Well that was a recent change. In the past, it's always been 0,0,0,200. But for the most recent file, I turned it down JUST to see if that would shrink the file size on my machine. But as I did it, I discovered the problem. For some reason, on my machine OOTP thinks it needs to generate 4000+ images and so, it just stops creating the archive. On my work machine, that doesn't happen. So all I have to do on my home machine to get it to generate the archive file in-game, is to turn off the upload new images button. So future files will have all of the messages and everything. The reason past files didn't have messages was because I was manually creating an archive that ONLY had the .dat files in it. Bottom line of all of those words is...future files will work as they are/were supposed to. Last edited by Young Drachma : 01-10-2009 at 12:59 PM.

01-10-2009, 01:28 PM	#126
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I was mapping out my pitching rotation for this season and noticed that we have a 162 game schedule. I wasn't sure if that is what the league is playing now, or if it is supposed to be a 154 game schedule? I'm submitting my file set up for the 162 game schedule, so hoping if it is supposed to be 154 game, we can wait till next season to change it back. (I'm likely not going to be around to change it later today if a new file with the new schedule is put up). __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-10-2009, 01:30 PM	#127
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	We swapped to 162 last year. It was a function of the realignment, as all of the other schedules I found were interleague and I didn't think folks wanted that.

01-10-2009, 01:37 PM	#128
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Ok cool no problem here then. Just making sure. I'm exported for tonight and tested it to verify that I could re-import from the FTP so I am all good to go. I have really only looked at the players on this team for 2 or 3 days now, so not really sure what they are capable of. Playing it mostly safe this season, giving many people chances to play. (have all 14 hitters listed as a starter in one of my two lineups), which means pretty much playing 6 platoons. That probably will mean I won't compete this season, but considering Valdosta finished dead last in all of FOOL last year before I took them back over again, I decided it best to determine who I can and can not count on moreso than trying to compete for 3rd or 4th place rather than 6th place. I'd be suprised if I finish dead last again this year, I actually have no idea how the AI managed that feat last year but I'll be looking forward to seeing how this team plays. I think I have an extremely deep outfield talentwise, but my infield is extremely thin. My pitching is only average, but I absolutely love the pitchers I drafted this year and think that will be something I can fix in the next two seasons. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

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