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Old 09-17-2005, 08:45 PM   #651
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saldana - RPI-Fan, hoopsguy, Passacaglia, Barkeep49, SnDvls, jeff061, Fouts

After an entire day of taunting you, you finally decide to hang saldana. He puts up no fight at all, and is laughing hysterically.

"You're all going to die, anyway! HA HA HA HA HA!"

You bind his limbs and then tie a noose around his neck. You hang him, and his body reacts violently to the rope around his neck. He stats twitching, and then foams at the mouth. He finally leaves this mortal coil.

You head to his room, and look around. You find a knife soaked with blood, and some letters exchanged between him an accomplices. It is without a doubt that saldana was an Outlaw!

It is now NIGHT 6! NIGHT ACTIONS ARE DUE AT 9AM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. hoopsguy
4. saldana - Outlaw, lynched Day 6
5. dubb93 - Witness, lynched Day 5

6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22 - Villager, killed by Outlaws Night 5
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:46 PM   #652
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Sorry I missed the vote, but also very happy that we bagged an outlaw!!!

(BTW, I thought we had until 12 a.m. EST)
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:51 PM   #653
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So we have 9 active player left, with either a 6-2 or 5-3 advantage... the one thing is, we will lose AT LEAST one villager somewhere if we want to win... so it's really a 5-2/4-3 type thing right now, making the situation kind of essential.

BTW, if I get killed tonight, I will be using my investigative powers to check out Mr. W.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:30 AM   #654
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Someone tell RealDeal he can still talk and stuff. I haven't seen him around.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:21 AM   #655
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I count 10 left, unless I've missed something -

Passacaglia - quiet, no opinion
hoopsguy - suspicious, not his usual analytical self
RPI-Fan - known villager due to outlaw attempt, told by witness
Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
Mr. Wednesday - suspicious
jeff061 - highly suspicious, backed witness, but only he knew the right witness
Fouts - villager
SnDvls - quiet, unknown
Schmidty - quiet, unknown
RealDeal - judge

I think it is 8-2. If NC gave them 4 to start out with and the MoLMF roaming around, we are in big trouble.

My top 3 are jeff, hoops, mr. w.

Edit - I think our pool to choose from should be jeff, hoops, mr. w, pass, sndvls, schmidty. We have a 2 in 6 chance with that group (maybe 3 in 6).

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Old 09-18-2005, 05:25 AM   #656
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The night passes quickly. You wake up and find that someone is missing again. You look for hoopsguy, but can't find him. You finally find his body, beaten to a bloody pulp in a small alley between a couple of vacant woodsheds. You enter his room, and look around. Nothing of note can be found. hoopsguy was, without a doubt, a Villager!

IT IS NOW DAY 7! NIGHT ACTIONS ARE DUE AT 9PM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. hoopsguy - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 6
4. saldana - Outlaw, lynched Day 6
5. dubb93 - Witness, lynched Day 5
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22 - Villager, killed by Outlaws Night 5
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:32 AM   #657
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So I'm looking at RPI-Fan. He changed his vote at the last minute from saldana to dubb -- like he wanted to vote saldana to avoid suspicion, but at the last minute, he had to switch to affect the outcome. Also, he claims a hidden role despite NC saying in Post #1 that there are no hidden roles. Again, I'm a werewolf newbie, but I don't think NC would lie outright like that.

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Old 09-18-2005, 08:36 AM   #658
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So I'm looking at RPI-Fan. He changed his vote at the last minute from saldana to dubb -- like he wanted to vote saldana to avoid suspicion, but at the last minute, he had to switch to affect the outcome. Also, he claims a hidden role despite NC saying in Post #1 that there are no hidden roles. Again, I'm a werewolf newbie, but I don't think NC would lie outright like that.

dubb, the real witness, witnessed them trying to kill me. The only way I could be an Outlaw would be if I had some huge master plan where we KNEW the sheriff would protect me, etc. -- all in all, it's not the case. I'm a villager, who fucked up big time.

As for the secret role, I lied about it because I knew I had been protected the night before, so if I avoided being killed, we had a CHANCE of protecting a villager. Alas it didn't work out, but I figured it was worth a try.

Plus: as soon as I came up with that role, putting pressure on Mr. W, he doesn't attempt to kill me. I think that might give a pretty strong indication he is an Outlaw. I'm not sure who his cohorts are, but for now I'm comfortable just going after him.

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Old 09-18-2005, 08:39 AM   #659
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I count 10 left, unless I've missed something -

Passacaglia - quiet, no opinion
hoopsguy - suspicious, not his usual analytical self
RPI-Fan - known villager due to outlaw attempt, told by witness
Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
Mr. Wednesday - suspicious
jeff061 - highly suspicious, backed witness, but only he knew the right witness
Fouts - villager
SnDvls - quiet, unknown
Schmidty - quiet, unknown
RealDeal - judge

I think it is 8-2. If NC gave them 4 to start out with and the MoLMF roaming around, we are in big trouble.

My top 3 are jeff, hoops, mr. w.

Edit - I think our pool to choose from should be jeff, hoops, mr. w, pass, sndvls, schmidty. We have a 2 in 6 chance with that group (maybe 3 in 6).

RealDeal shouldn't be counted because the only way he gets out of jail is if the Outlaws jailbreak him... I really don't see that happening, as though it might help them in us not knowing if we get an Outlaw -- any of their gang who goes to jail is stuck there, plus they lose out on a free kill, plus we get another villager in the headcount.

So I say 8 players left (after hoops died), and 6-2 or 5-3. But we will be making a one-for-one at some point during a lynching, as the Outlaw leader is still out there.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:46 AM   #660
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At this point, I have Passacaglia cleared in my mind. That leaves SnDvls, Fouts, Schmidty, Mr. W, and jeff. I'm willing to leave Fouts out of it for now, too... Mr. W I'm almost sure is an Outlaw because of Outlaw actions when I presented a serious threat to Mr. W.

In the dubb/saldana vote, Mr. W voted saldana. That was a strategy our WW group discussed thoroughly last game (voting strategically for one of your own), so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he applied it there.

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dubb93 (6) - Fouts, saldana, hoopsguy, SnDvls, Schmidty, RPI-Fan

That means we're PROBABLY looking at 2 of the highlighted guys being Outlaws. Fouts, as I said, I'll give a pass for now... that leaves SnDvls and Schmidty. Both of them make sense as Outlaws, so I'd be comfortable going after them even today if necessary -- but I'm more confident Mr. W is an Outlaw.
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:02 AM   #661
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Sorry that I was such a non-contributor as a villager - now a dead villager. I'm hoping that you guys can put together a big-time rally to make this a game worth remembering for positive reasons.
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:06 AM   #662
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I don't get it. Why are we giving Fouts a free pass? I think his game has been very suspicious and I had reason to believe, even before the game began, that he was an outlaw.

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Old 09-18-2005, 09:07 AM   #663
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Sorry that I was such a non-contributor as a villager - now a dead villager. I'm hoping that you guys can put together a big-time rally to make this a game worth remembering for positive reasons.

I was sure you were the sheriff... you done good, though.
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:07 AM   #664
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I don't get it. Why are we giving Fouts a free pass? I think his game has been very suspicious and I had reason to believe, even before the game began, that he was an outlaw.

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Can you elaborate?
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:17 AM   #665
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Well I'm not sure this is fair, but since I came across the information naturally:

At the same time that roles were sent out in this game I know that Fouts PM box was full. This is because he had sent me a question in my werewolf game and when I tried to reply I was unable to do so. This made me think that he was an Outlaw because it's possible that there were two or three quick messages from the other outlaws, catching Fouts by surprise and filling his box. Of course at the time as I was not in this game I just smiled to myself and said nothing.

If it had just been this rather circumstantial evidence I would have given him a pass. However, he was vociferous in his defense of saldana during a close vote with some reasoning that seemed to arouse suspicion from others as well.
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:38 AM   #666
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You guys know I've said that I'm not one for bringing things outside of the game into this one, but it seems like keeping your PM box empty should be a no-brainer.
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:52 AM   #667
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I don't get it. Why are we giving Fouts a free pass? I think his game has been very suspicious and I had reason to believe, even before the game began, that he was an outlaw.

Vote Fouts

Won't see me shedding a tear if he get's lynched. I just don't see an outlaw drawing so much attention to them selves with such shoddy and bizzare reasoning.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:17 PM   #668
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Well I'm not sure this is fair, but since I came across the information naturally:

At the same time that roles were sent out in this game I know that Fouts PM box was full. This is because he had sent me a question in my werewolf game and when I tried to reply I was unable to do so. This made me think that he was an Outlaw because it's possible that there were two or three quick messages from the other outlaws, catching Fouts by surprise and filling his box. Of course at the time as I was not in this game I just smiled to myself and said nothing.

If it had just been this rather circumstantial evidence I would have given him a pass. However, he was vociferous in his defense of saldana during a close vote with some reasoning that seemed to arouse suspicion from others as well.

That's funny. Excuse me if I'm in 3 games at once. You play your way, I'll play mine. And I didn't defend saldana, go back and look. I, nor anyone else but jeff, could tell who was the witness.

Jeff heavily defended dubb, but nobody could tell which one was the witness. The only way you know the right guy is by being an outlaw.

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Old 09-18-2005, 03:17 PM   #669
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Won't see me shedding a tear if he get's lynched. I just don't see an outlaw drawing so much attention to them selves with such shoddy and bizzare reasoning.

Translation: lynch another villager, thats ok with jeff.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:19 PM   #670
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Vote Fouts

I don't know what to make of him. If he's a villager this is perhaps the worse game I've ever seen a villager play.

I'll change if one of the guys on my suspect list(detailed earlier) gets a few votes.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:22 PM   #671
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Vote Fouts

I don't know what to make of him. If he's a villager this is perhaps the worse game I've ever seen a villager play.

I'll change if one of the guys on my suspect list(detailed earlier) gets a few votes.

What? Thank you for the personal insult.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:24 PM   #672
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I must have gotten the seer killed off the bat.

I didn't care which of the 2 claimed witnesses died.

I choose to accuse people when I'm suspicious.

I must have used outside items (personal inboxes) and brought them insdie the game.

Yep, worst game ever. I suck.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:25 PM   #673
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You should, between me and somehow thinking Saldana was the witness, this hasn't been a bright spot.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:28 PM   #674
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Well, line up your people who KNEW dubb was the witness. Lets hear the overwhelming evidence.

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Old 09-18-2005, 03:29 PM   #675
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I'm with jeff. I thought it was pretty obvious that dubb was the witness, so I've got to look at people who voted for dubb.

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Old 09-18-2005, 03:30 PM   #676
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I'm the sheriff. Too bad for us villagers that I played the worst game ever. Go ahead and lynch me.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:33 PM   #677
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After you lynch me, lynch jeff and pass.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:37 PM   #678
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Well, nothing to say pass? Have to discuss it with jeff first?
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:38 PM   #679
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I'm the sheriff. Too bad for us villagers that I played the worst game ever. Go ahead and lynch me.

Thats rich.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:40 PM   #680
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unvote Fouts
Vote Mr. Wednesday


Even then anyone that seems to be actively looking out for the Outlaws best interests oughta be the one to go.

By the way fouts, I already names Pass as a suspect. I said either him or Wednesday are an Outlaw. More flawed logic.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:40 PM   #681
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Well, nothing to say pass? Have to discuss it with jeff first?

I'm just waiting for someone else to show up claiming to be the sheriff.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:41 PM   #682
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Even then anyone that seems to be actively looking out for the Outlaws best interests oughta be the one to go.

Changed your tune real fast. No more insults? If you can't outplay someone, start insulting their game play. Good move sport.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:43 PM   #683
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What insults? I've been stating fact. You protected good, and otherwise have hurt us this game. Don't take it so damn personal.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:44 PM   #684
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Just a game, guys.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:45 PM   #685
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:45 PM   #686
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What insults? I've been stating fact. You protected good, and otherwise have hurt us this game. Don't take it so damn personal.

Well you won in the end. You and pass got me to out myself. I am 99% sure you are an outlaw. If I'm wrong, then I have learned nothing playing this game.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:48 PM   #687
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50% Pass is.

Not I.

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You and pass got me to out myself

That doesn't make much sense to me. If the Outlaws knew you were the sheriff they wouldn't need you to out yourself. If they wanted the Sheriff to out themselves would focusing on you be the priority?
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:51 PM   #688
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Yo, I'm no outlaw. I'm just trying to figure all this out.
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Old 09-18-2005, 05:42 PM   #689
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Unvote Fouts

I'm willing to think about this one some more.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:02 PM   #690
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I think jeff & Mr. W are the guys that we need to go get. For tonight, I think Mr. W is a safe play.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:03 PM   #691
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*sigh* I give up.

Can someone at the least tell me why people are looking at me? I've been the only innocent remotely helpful this game. Anyways, seriously, if you are going to vote me at all vote me now, I don't feel like hanging around this lost cause.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:06 PM   #692
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By the way, if your logic is correct, I've knowingly voted for my teammates in back to back to back days.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:23 PM   #693
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Saldana you must be enjoying this .

Just going to repost what I did yesterday, maybe we can spark an actual logical conversation, since I'm pretty confident in the following, and no one commented on it(defaulting to me for a reason yet to be conveyed).

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Well I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest two outlaws voted for Dubb and one voted for Saldana.

I don't think it's Fouts, he's drawn to much attention to himself. Still think it can be Hoops, but I'll likely not push for him yet. The other two at a glance are SnDvls and Schmidty. I don't think it's RPI.

On the other side it's Wednesday or Pass. RPI can you remind me why you are looking at Wednesday?

It looks like Fouts is clean, Hoops is dead. So here's my updated hit list.

Outlaws: Schmidty and Sundvls both are. And either Wednesday or Pass.

Any thoughts on this? Or am I just being suspicious....
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:31 PM   #694
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The reason I really think W is because Pass is not, I feel. The post he made saying "I don't even know who the MOLMF is" seemed pretty genuine. Just gave me a vibe that he's not Outlaw, along with his other posts.

I"ve decided that I'm less confident in that than I am SnDvls, though.

So, Vote SnDvls
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:34 PM   #695
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The reason I really think W is because Pass is not, I feel. The post he made saying "I don't even know who the MOLMF is" seemed pretty genuine. Just gave me a vibe that he's not Outlaw, along with his other posts.

I"ve decided that I'm less confident in that than I am SnDvls, though.

So, Vote SnDvls

Not very convincing. We need a united villager front, to combat the outlaws. Otherwise, we are going to be spread out and they will pick who to lynch.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:40 PM   #696
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Here are my remaining suspects;

jeff - absolutely knew saldana was the witness
mr. w - no idea, playing the game quiet, is he still alive?
pass - following jeff's lead, not offering much to help
sndvls - quiet
schmidty - quiet

We have 3 quiet guys, and jeff and pass. Pretty obvious to me.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:42 PM   #697
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jeff - absolutely knew saldana was the witness

Yeah, why didn't anyone else, I don't know. Was anyone reading his posts that day other than me?

In any case, I'll vote for anyone I listed above, wednesday, Sundvls, whatever. I'm never going to convince Fouts, so I'll stop trying. Hopefully we'll win despite him.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:42 PM   #698
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Here are my remaining suspects;

jeff - absolutely knew saldana was the witness
mr. w - no idea, playing the game quiet, is he still alive?
pass - following jeff's lead, not offering much to help
sndvls - quiet
schmidty - quiet

We have 3 quiet guys, and jeff and pass. Pretty obvious to me.

So, you think jeff & pass are the Outlaws? Maybe I'm being too easy here, but Pass gives me the villager Vibe... at this point there's no reason for the villagers to be quiet so I have reason to suspect those guys.

However, I hate to change my vote once again, but jeff's antics totally remind me of saldana and other bad-guy players in the past defending themselves when they are accused.

Unvote SnDvls

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Old 09-18-2005, 06:45 PM   #699
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Well everyone gather on now so I don't have to worry about fending for myself tomorrow.

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However, I hate to change my vote once again, but jeff's antics totally remind me of saldana and other bad-guy players in the past defending themselves when they are accused.

It's called being "Defensive", and everyone acts that way when accused.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:47 PM   #700
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Anyone have a vote count?
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