The 2018 World Cup - Page 5

bhlloy · 06-22-2018, 11:11 AM

Oof. Only thing worse than getting undressed on a brilliant goal is having the goal scorer knee you in the head and split you open like a melon as he wheels away to celebrate.

PilotMan · 06-22-2018, 11:12 AM

That was just incredible control on the run. A wow play for sure.

kingfc22 · 06-22-2018, 11:38 AM

Well Argentina still pretty much control their own destiny albeit with loads of pressure.

Should be some good theater watching this group end next week.

kingfc22 · 06-22-2018, 11:40 AM

Well maybe I spoke too soon...

kingfc22 · 06-22-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Well maybe I spoke too soon...

Or not.

Arles · 06-22-2018, 11:57 AM

Yeah, Nigeria gave Argentina a lifeline. If they can beat Nigeria and Croatia ties or beats Iceland, Argentina moves on.

PilotMan · 06-22-2018, 01:02 PM

Is it too early to bitch about Serbia?

ISiddiqui · 06-22-2018, 01:10 PM

Nigeria v. Argentina is going to be such a fun game. Though Argentina may get themselves roasted by the speed of Nigeria.

The interesting thing is for all the Argentina is dead narrative, they actually dominated Iceland and were a Messi penalty from probably approaching the Croatia game entirely differently (still would have lost, I'm sure, but you likely wouldn't have had terrible desperate goalkeeping like on the 2nd goal).

MIJB#19 · 06-22-2018, 02:25 PM

Serbia - Switzerland has another VAR crew to send home after the group stages.

MIJB#19 · 06-23-2018, 08:13 AM

Goalfest between Belgium and Tunisia. I turned the tv before the 20th minute and already missed some.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 09:07 AM

That's what happens in FM when I think my aggressive tactics can do something against stronger teams. I'm usually wrong.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 09:08 AM

dola

anyone else see all the Panama games and think, that should be the US in those games?

Galaril · 06-23-2018, 10:32 AM

Well that penalty called on South Korea that gave Mexico a freebie goal off a penalty kick was BS. Calls like that make it so I could never follow soccer except every four years in the WC.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 10:38 AM

It was clearly a penalty. Just because the defender didn't mean it, doesn't mean that it's not a penalty. The arm was up, it's not like it glanced off his shoulder.

MrBug708 · 06-23-2018, 10:43 AM

Easy penalty call, just bad luck. Really hate Mexico, but they usually play an attractive style. Until the last ten minutes of the game

MIJB#19 · 06-23-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Well that penalty called on South Korea that gave Mexico a freebie goal off a penalty kick was BS. Calls like that make it so I could never follow soccer except every four years in the WC.

Throwing the arm up in the air seemingly to try block the shot, that'll give you the result as seen here. Had the ball gone into the left arm that was facing down, it should not have been a penalty kick.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 11:26 AM

These pro-mexican announcers really don't have good chemistry do they? They are struggling with the give and take.

kingfc22 · 06-23-2018, 11:29 AM

This Mexico team is much different than previous versions. More true skill and tactics vs the teams of the past built on hard work, tenacity and at times outright dirty play.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 11:40 AM

SK is playing so much like the US. They just can't get that touch at the end to pull the trigger on the shot. Plus, Mexico is doing a great job at defending today.

kingfc22 · 06-23-2018, 11:48 AM

Ozil dropped for today’s match.

Galaril · 06-23-2018, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Throwing the arm up in the air seemingly to try block the shot, that'll give you the result as seen here. Had the ball gone into the left arm that was facing down, it should not have been a penalty kick.

Ah thanks guys I missed the hand up but yup you all are right:-). Gee this could be the WC for Mexico. Good for them if so.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 01:19 PM

Now that should have been a penalty.

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Now that should have been a penalty.

I don’t blame the ref for not giving it - it didn’t look like a pen in real time. But not sure why VAR didn’t flag it up...

NobodyHere · 06-23-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

I don’t blame the ref for not giving it - it didn’t look like a pen in real time. But not sure why VAR didn’t flag it up...

Pardon my ignorance, but what is VAR and why do people seem to hate it?

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 01:34 PM

Video Assistant Referee, like the replay booth in the NFL.

Main difference is there are not team challenges, just an associate crew that review incidents in case there is ‘a clear and obvious error’

Problem is the ones they’ve changed have pretty much all been right, but they have missed a notable number of clear and obvious ones too.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 01:35 PM

Germany is in trouble now.

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 01:55 PM

The German defence is someasy to attack: no protection in front of them, the two centre halves are awful and the right back is playing as a right winger.

It makes life fairly easy for the opposition attack

bhlloy · 06-23-2018, 02:05 PM

Does Timo Werner have photos of Low or something?

EDIT - as always, I have impeccable timing

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 02:25 PM

Sweden don’t have any great pace anyway, but they look tired now as well. Fresh legs, get the ball to stick up top and if there’s some pace on the bench that would help.

Otherwise it’s a matter of time

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 02:41 PM

That changes things.

Not sure about this ref. He got it right, but how did he take a whole minute to give a yellow?

miami_fan · 06-23-2018, 02:41 PM

Outstanding call by the match official.

bhlloy · 06-23-2018, 02:44 PM

Yeah, I’m all for consulting with the linesman on a decision that big

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 02:46 PM

It was a dead cert yellow, shouldn’t need to confer.

He doesn’t come across as confident, but to be fair he hasn’t actually got anything horribly wrong (edit to add: or at least as it looked in real time)

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 02:47 PM

That was a good card. Dumb tackle, good card. Sweeden caught a big break there.

miami_fan · 06-23-2018, 02:53 PM

Oh My

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 02:56 PM

Unlucky Sweden. Really enjoyable game, even if not amazing quality

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 02:57 PM

A knife to the heart!

Buccaneer · 06-23-2018, 02:58 PM

Sweden clearly deserved to lose that match. Playing with a man advantage, they actually played worse with no offense whatsoever, not to mention giving up a short-handed goal.

kingfc22 · 06-23-2018, 02:58 PM

Wow. Add this as another group where the games next week actually mean something.

Critch · 06-23-2018, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Sweden clearly deserved to lose that match. Playing with a man advantage, they actually played worse with no offense whatsoever, not to mention giving up a short-handed goal.

I was just typing exactly the same thing. So ditto for me.

PilotMan · 06-23-2018, 03:00 PM

That is a tough, tough way to end for Sweden.

AlexB · 06-23-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Sweden clearly deserved to lose that match. Playing with a man advantage, they actually played worse with no offense whatsoever, not to mention giving up a short-handed goal.

They were absolutely hosed. Arguably poor strategy to work so hard early, but it wasn’t through poor play or lack of ambition they conceded ground, it was sheer exhaustion.

They had no out for most of the second half: they needed more legs/energy once the ball was cleared, it just kept coming back at them, and football is its most tiring when you don’t have the ball. Which made them more tired, less able to stop the flow.

It screamed for change, but maybe they don’t have anyone who could have made the ball stick.

It was however a poor decison by the sub they did put on to go to ground and give the foul away that led to the free kick. And that wasn’t tiredness, maybe more the reason was why he was a sub

AlexB · 06-24-2018, 07:28 AM

Are Panama always like this?

Over physical at times, rolling around in pretend agony at others, moaning en masse to the ref every five minutes, delaying the game. Horrible team on today’s evidence.

MrBug708 · 06-24-2018, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Are Panama always like this?

Over physical at times, rolling around in pretend agony at others, moaning en masse to the ref every five minutes, delaying the game. Horrible team on today’s evidence.

CONCAF'ed

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2018, 07:42 AM

That's going way too easy.

England should brush up their goal difference in the second half to get a chance to win the group with a draw against Belgium.

MIJB#19 · 06-24-2018, 07:46 AM

... or in the first half already. They need only 1 more to go ahead of Belgium.

Impressive how Kane shot it at the same spot as the first one.

miami_fan · 06-24-2018, 07:46 AM

I would be terrified of Panama taking someone out in the 2nd half.

miami_fan · 06-24-2018, 07:47 AM

And I mean taking out an England player.

AlexB · 06-24-2018, 07:55 AM

Agreed. Main aim is get through without any injuries.

The swinging arm on Maguire should have been a red, and the early tackle on Lingard was arguably a red too.
Edit: and I forgot Lingard got elbowed too even before that challenge

miami_fan · 06-24-2018, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

dola

anyone else see all the Panama games and think, that should be the US in those games?

Worse than being a Panama fan at the moment - being a USA fan
— Tim Vickery (@Tim_Vickery) June 24, 2018

Pretty much sums up my feelings.

06-22-2018, 11:12 AM	#202
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	That was just incredible control on the run. A wow play for sure. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-22-2018, 11:38 AM	#203
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Well Argentina still pretty much control their own destiny albeit with loads of pressure. Should be some good theater watching this group end next week. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-22-2018, 11:40 AM	#204
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Well maybe I spoke too soon... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-22-2018, 11:57 AM	#206
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Yeah, Nigeria gave Argentina a lifeline. If they can beat Nigeria and Croatia ties or beats Iceland, Argentina moves on. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

06-22-2018, 01:02 PM	#207
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Is it too early to bitch about Serbia? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-22-2018, 11:11 AM	#201
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Oof. Only thing worse than getting undressed on a brilliant goal is having the goal scorer knee you in the head and split you open like a melon as he wheels away to celebrate.

06-22-2018, 01:10 PM	#208
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Nigeria v. Argentina is going to be such a fun game. Though Argentina may get themselves roasted by the speed of Nigeria. The interesting thing is for all the Argentina is dead narrative, they actually dominated Iceland and were a Messi penalty from probably approaching the Croatia game entirely differently (still would have lost, I'm sure, but you likely wouldn't have had terrible desperate goalkeeping like on the 2nd goal). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-22-2018, 02:25 PM	#209
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Serbia - Switzerland has another VAR crew to send home after the group stages. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-23-2018, 08:13 AM	#210
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Goalfest between Belgium and Tunisia. I turned the tv before the 20th minute and already missed some. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-23-2018, 09:07 AM	#211
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	That's what happens in FM when I think my aggressive tactics can do something against stronger teams. I'm usually wrong. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 09:08 AM	#212
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	dola anyone else see all the Panama games and think, that should be the US in those games? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 10:32 AM	#213
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Well that penalty called on South Korea that gave Mexico a freebie goal off a penalty kick was BS. Calls like that make it so I could never follow soccer except every four years in the WC.

06-23-2018, 10:38 AM	#214
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	It was clearly a penalty. Just because the defender didn't mean it, doesn't mean that it's not a penalty. The arm was up, it's not like it glanced off his shoulder. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 10:43 AM	#215
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Easy penalty call, just bad luck. Really hate Mexico, but they usually play an attractive style. Until the last ten minutes of the game

06-23-2018, 11:26 AM	#217
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	These pro-mexican announcers really don't have good chemistry do they? They are struggling with the give and take. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 11:29 AM	#218
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	This Mexico team is much different than previous versions. More true skill and tactics vs the teams of the past built on hard work, tenacity and at times outright dirty play. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-23-2018, 11:40 AM	#219
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	SK is playing so much like the US. They just can't get that touch at the end to pull the trigger on the shot. Plus, Mexico is doing a great job at defending today. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 11:48 AM	#220
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Ozil dropped for today’s match. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-23-2018, 01:19 PM	#222
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Now that should have been a penalty. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 01:34 PM	#225
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Video Assistant Referee, like the replay booth in the NFL. Main difference is there are not team challenges, just an associate crew that review incidents in case there is ‘a clear and obvious error’ Problem is the ones they’ve changed have pretty much all been right, but they have missed a notable number of clear and obvious ones too. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 06-23-2018 at 01:34 PM.

06-23-2018, 01:35 PM	#226
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Germany is in trouble now. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 01:55 PM	#227
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	The German defence is someasy to attack: no protection in front of them, the two centre halves are awful and the right back is playing as a right winger. It makes life fairly easy for the opposition attack __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

06-23-2018, 02:05 PM	#228
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Does Timo Werner have photos of Low or something? EDIT - as always, I have impeccable timing Last edited by bhlloy : 06-23-2018 at 02:06 PM.

06-23-2018, 02:25 PM	#229
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Sweden don’t have any great pace anyway, but they look tired now as well. Fresh legs, get the ball to stick up top and if there’s some pace on the bench that would help. Otherwise it’s a matter of time __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

06-23-2018, 02:41 PM	#230
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	That changes things. Not sure about this ref. He got it right, but how did he take a whole minute to give a yellow? __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 06-23-2018 at 02:41 PM.

06-23-2018, 02:41 PM	#231
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Outstanding call by the match official. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-23-2018, 02:44 PM	#232
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah, I’m all for consulting with the linesman on a decision that big

06-23-2018, 02:46 PM	#233
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	It was a dead cert yellow, shouldn’t need to confer. He doesn’t come across as confident, but to be fair he hasn’t actually got anything horribly wrong (edit to add: or at least as it looked in real time) __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 06-23-2018 at 02:47 PM.

06-23-2018, 02:47 PM	#234
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	That was a good card. Dumb tackle, good card. Sweeden caught a big break there. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-23-2018, 02:53 PM	#235
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Oh My __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-23-2018, 02:56 PM	#236
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Unlucky Sweden. Really enjoyable game, even if not amazing quality __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 06-23-2018 at 02:56 PM.

06-23-2018, 02:57 PM	#237
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	A knife to the heart! __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 06-23-2018 at 02:57 PM.

06-23-2018, 02:58 PM	#238
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Sweden clearly deserved to lose that match. Playing with a man advantage, they actually played worse with no offense whatsoever, not to mention giving up a short-handed goal.

06-23-2018, 02:58 PM	#239
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wow. Add this as another group where the games next week actually mean something. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-23-2018, 03:00 PM	#241
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	That is a tough, tough way to end for Sweden. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 06-23-2018 at 03:02 PM.