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Old 04-01-2009, 08:16 PM   #501
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:18 PM   #502
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Abe's basic rule for playing the seer:

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Night Three - Do whatever.

Sigh.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:21 PM   #503
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yup, you and I have had this convesation many times.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #504
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are you kidding? we got ONE night kill in. the game lasted what...not even 2 days?

the spy was the role that killed it. way too people moving about in too small a game for him to have a chance of seeing one or two people interacting (like what happened)

You have a reason to be upset - you got smashed by the village. Don't blame it on balance. You started the game up 2-0. Don't blame clap for this, I don't have a problem with the game balance. You can blame me for your loss, like I said before - if I hadn't followed PF and Abe scans Lathum, what happens on day 2? It could've easily been 4-0 and then even if we nailed one of you it's near over.

Spy + bodyguard + seer vs brutal + cunning + regular wolf. You haven't seen that before, really? Common. That's even.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:12 PM   #505
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Even with a mayor role involved, they could easily make the wrong decision. Hell, Lathum's decision to lynch Tecmo was based on his gut, nothing else. What if he chose wrong? Donno if I'm stepping out of line here but I don't think clap has anything to feel bad about in the balance of this game. It's hard to balance games when not many people sign up.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:13 PM   #506
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I'm sorry did we have a BG? Who was it? Who'd they guard. Did I miss that?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:14 PM   #507
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I'm sorry did we have a BG? Who was it? Who'd they guard. Did I miss that?

Good point. Did we have a BG?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:15 PM   #508
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:17 PM   #509
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:17 PM   #510
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That was me.

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Old 04-01-2009, 10:17 PM   #511
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:34 PM   #512
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I had it down to Poli and USFL.

THe way USLF waited to vote on day 1 struck me as odd for some reason.

I hope he decides to play in the next game now that he is acclimated.

In the interest of me learning the craft, is this it, or was there some other tell I was giving off?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:37 PM   #513
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In the interest of me learning the craft, is this it, or was there some other tell I was giving off?

thats it, it just seemed odd. It seemed like you were waiting to see what the best move was. The only people really concerned with that would be a wolf.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:38 PM   #514
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FWIW had I been lynched day 1 I would have duked to Pass

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Old 04-01-2009, 10:48 PM   #515
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USFL - I almost followed you last night instead of Abe. You were very under the radar, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I put aside any thoughts I had about you being new to the game and took it straight and you were definitely high on my suspicion list.

I'm not saying its a good idea to be very vocal all the time, but contributing bits and pieces will get you looked at.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:51 PM   #516
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Yeah, I looked at DT cause I thought he wasn;t adding much, just talking so I scanned him. Perhaps I was totally wrong, and my perception was just that he as, but it was still enough to ting me and make me thank a second time. And DT is an established player.

On two occasions I have totally outed myself as a wolf in a post and no one has caught it. I used the wrong pronoun twice. No one voted for me.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:54 PM   #517
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Yeah, my entire strategy, especially with the cunning role, was to try to stay off the radar as much as possible, and when I DID say something, come off as not really knowing what I was doing, which is somewhat true, but not as much as I was trying to lead people to believe. This was only the second time in the handful of games I've played that I've had a wolf role, so I really didn't know what to do, besides some of the more obvious pitfalls of switching votes near the end.

Live and learn, I suppose. I think I'll be doing a lot of that in the next few games.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:59 PM   #518
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Most games come down to luck, but people that have played with each other a bunch of times definitely get reads.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:01 PM   #519
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Not to say that those reads are always right...
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:02 PM   #520
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well done Lathum, btw
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:04 PM   #521
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well done Lathum, btw

ty, figured if nothing else I would make things interesting.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:05 PM   #522
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Yup, Lathum sometimes just amazes me. here I am thinking geez, he must be off his game. Brutal Wolf? Duke? Just bored? Distracted? Feeling Ornery? Blade found his account? Then boom, he comes out of nowhere to nail the one major factor we all feared - the cunning.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:08 PM   #523
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Yup, Lathum sometimes just amazes me. here I am thinking geez, he must be off his game. Brutal Wolf? Duke? Just bored? Distracted? Feeling Ornery? Blade found his account? Then boom, he comes out of nowhere to nail the one major factor we all feared - the cunning.

lol, thanks.

I think.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:14 PM   #524
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Yup, Lathum sometimes just amazes me. here I am thinking geez, he must be off his game. Brutal Wolf? Duke? Just bored? Distracted? Feeling Ornery? Blade found his account? Then boom, he comes out of nowhere to nail the one major factor we all feared - the cunning.

and for those of you who didn't get the Blade reference

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Old 04-01-2009, 11:24 PM   #525
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:24 PM   #526
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I think WW on the board was a different game back then. It's much, much nicer now.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:33 PM   #527
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I think WW on the board was a different game back then. It's much, much nicer now.

I totaly agree.

It only took a few bad apples to ruin the bunch, Blade and Bek.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:39 PM   #528
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Sigh.

Yeah, but my rule is exactly the same when I am the BG. I don;t wan tot lose a potential valuable asset, so I will BG you when I have no other obvious options.

Now, I do not usually autokill you or Lathum when I am a wolf. I'd rather hit the next tier of solid veterans and leave you and Lathum in the game. As a wolf, I fear Chief Rum more than you two. He can come into the game after being quiet, and just murder you with blistering accuracy.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:42 PM   #529
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As a wolf, I fear Chief Rum more than you two. He can come into the game after being quiet, and just murder you with blistering accuracy.

so true
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:02 AM   #530
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Yeah, but my rule is exactly the same when I am the BG. I don;t wan tot lose a potential valuable asset, so I will BG you when I have no other obvious options.

Now, I do not usually autokill you or Lathum when I am a wolf. I'd rather hit the next tier of solid veterans and leave you and Lathum in the game. As a wolf, I fear Chief Rum more than you two. He can come into the game after being quiet, and just murder you with blistering accuracy.

I know, I just have not had fun being a wolf in forever because I'm scanned so early. I think the last time I had a successful wolf run was in one of your games where I was converted by Lathum (shudder). But as a starting wolf, I have to go back even farther to find a game where I was alive as a wolf after Day 3 without being scanned, followed, or whatever other villager roles can mess with the wolves.

The flipside is that I have had a lot of good villager runs, or at least the freedom/latitude to mess things up as a villager
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:03 AM   #531
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yeah CR is quite the trip
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:03 AM   #532
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And hoops - if you're out for a few games, who knows.. maybe you wont be scanned day one.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:10 AM   #533
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And hoops - if you're out for a few games, who knows.. maybe you wont be scanned day one.

Nah, I like playing when I can. Hoping to sign up for the next one - will do it assuming an evening deadline, I think.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:11 AM   #534
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I think the last time I had a successful wolf run was in one of your games where I was converted by Lathum (shudder).

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Old 04-02-2009, 12:51 AM   #535
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You have a reason to be upset - you got smashed by the village. Don't blame it on balance. You started the game up 2-0. Don't blame clap for this, I don't have a problem with the game balance. You can blame me for your loss, like I said before - if I hadn't followed PF and Abe scans Lathum, what happens on day 2? It could've easily been 4-0 and then even if we nailed one of you it's near over.

Spy + bodyguard + seer vs brutal + cunning + regular wolf. You haven't seen that before, really? Common. That's even.

OMG. I can't believe there was a bodyguard too. That's fucking ridiculous.



even? bullshit!

in a game this size the spy essentially became a second seer because he had such a high % chance of following someone who was doing something.

i'm sympathetic to the plight of the GM who has to balance the game, but wow...c'mon. not even.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:32 AM   #536
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Don't be upset because you got unlucky, and don't act like this is the first time we've had a game balanced like this. You're just on the wrong side of it!
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:33 AM   #537
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The seer can't identify the cunning. Only the spy can, and only if they make the right call, and only if people believe them.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:12 AM   #538
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FWIW had I been lynched day 1 I would have duked to Pass

Cool. So saving you was worth it, after all.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:30 AM   #539
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Yeah, my entire strategy, especially with the cunning role, was to try to stay off the radar as much as possible, and when I DID say something, come off as not really knowing what I was doing, which is somewhat true, but not as much as I was trying to lead people to believe. This was only the second time in the handful of games I've played that I've had a wolf role, so I really didn't know what to do, besides some of the more obvious pitfalls of switching votes near the end.

Live and learn, I suppose. I think I'll be doing a lot of that in the next few games.


my biggest comment about you is.... when you put in the final night kill order (not knowing you would die) you ordered to kill Abe, who wasnt a threat, the jackyl was the threat!
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:31 AM   #540
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lol, thanks.

I think.


I was looking forward to a 3-tecmo argument.....
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:33 AM   #541
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Yeah, but my rule is exactly the same when I am the BG. I don;t wan tot lose a potential valuable asset, so I will BG you when I have no other obvious options.

Now, I do not usually autokill you or Lathum when I am a wolf. I'd rather hit the next tier of solid veterans and leave you and Lathum in the game. As a wolf, I fear Chief Rum more than you two. He can come into the game after being quiet, and just murder you with blistering accuracy.


I dont like playing with chief..... hes real good like a lathum or hoops... but hes on at such weird times that you cant argue with him and get anything out of him :P

I think im wrong abotu 95% of the time on him
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:17 AM   #542
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Nah, I like playing when I can. Hoping to sign up for the next one - will do it assuming an evening deadline, I think.

If it helps, the one time I was seer, I didn't scan you, but found a wolf in someone else.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:00 AM   #543
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my biggest comment about you is.... when you put in the final night kill order (not knowing you would die) you ordered to kill Abe, who wasnt a threat, the jackyl was the threat!

Right, but DT was in line to knock off Jackal as the brutal if Lathum didn't duke to me. There's no way a BG could block the brtual kill, and I was willing to take my chances that either there wasn't a BG, or they were going to cover Jackal, and not Abe. Still probably not the wisest move, but I was hoping to eliminate another known innocent.
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Giggle, I just saw this thread as Werewolf and never noticed "wear" before in the title.
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