Guns don't kill young pitchers..... - Page 2

Karlifornia · 08-20-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

So how long until Lincecum gets the ol' TJ?

This has been a question pondered by everyone else but Giants fans. It may happen eventually, don't get me wrong, but this kid is just a pure athlete. He didn't hit for many years, but he looks better swinging the bat than any Giants pitcher not named Matt Cain. He doesn't ice after games, and he seems pretty much bulletproof. That's not to say that he is bulletproof, as anything can happen, but I think Lincecum uses his body so well that I'd surprised if his arm catastrophically blew up.

JPhillips · 08-20-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Gotta get that push in for 70 wins!

(trust me, I know the feeling

)

The way they're playing I'd be thrilled to get to 70 wins.

stevew · 07-27-2010, 08:30 PM

I'm gonna give Riggleman credit if he broke Strasburg this quickly. Never remember a pitcher not being able to get warm.

Merry Strasmas.

dawgfan · 07-28-2010, 01:06 AM

I haven't been keeping track of Strasburg's pitch counts, but he's got the kind of pitching motion and the velocity to be an injury concern regardless (if you buy the theories of guys like Chris O'Leary and Kyle Boddy).

Toddzilla · 07-28-2010, 07:54 AM

Hey, give the guy credit...he scratched Strasburg's start in front of a nearly packed house for a team that can't give tickets away. That took some giant balls.

Subby · 07-28-2010, 08:03 AM

MRI came back negative, so that's good news. They were just being EXTREMELY cautious. I think 95+% of the time the pitcher takes the mound and pitches in this situation - this is just a fairly unique situation.

lungs · 07-28-2010, 09:31 AM

I've actually been quite impressed with how the Nats have handled Strasburg. He's going to be shut down anyway so he can just miss a start or two right now instead of later.

lordscarlet · 07-28-2010, 01:59 PM

And to make us Nats fans feel better, they had a great game despite scratching Strasburg. Batista and the rest of the bullpen stepped up when they needed to.

Logan · 07-28-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

The Nats have done a solid job with Stras. To put last night into perspective, Riggleman didn't make the decision. Mike Rizzo was summoned to the bullpen and made the call himself. That, kids, is a GM with a plan that is going to do everything possible to make it work.

You mean to keep his job?

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I haven't been keeping track of Strasburg's pitch counts, but he's got the kind of pitching motion and the velocity to be an injury concern regardless (if you buy the theories of guys like Chris O'Leary and Kyle Boddy).

Yep. Enjoy him now while you can.

stevew · 07-28-2010, 03:28 PM

They'd probably be better off taking the hit on the invariable Tommy John sooner rather than later.

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

They'd probably be better off taking the hit on the invariable Tommy John sooner rather than later.

Shit - do it this year, after you shut him down for the year.

claphamsa · 07-28-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Hey, give the guy credit...he scratched Strasburg's start in front of a nearly packed house for a team that can't give tickets away. That took some giant balls.

we enjoyed that....

miked · 07-29-2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

And to make us Nats fans feel better, they had a great game despite scratching Strasburg. Batista and the rest of the bullpen stepped up when they needed to.

And those classy Nats fans booed him.

claphamsa · 07-29-2010, 07:24 AM

I heard no booing... well we booed chipper.

lordscarlet · 07-29-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

And those classy Nats fans booed him.

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

I heard no booing... well we booed chipper.

All the news reports say that they did. I wasn't there that night, though. If they did, it was classless and fairly atypical of Nats fans. Of course, typical Nats fans don't sell out the stadium, these are people that just came to see Strasburg, not the Nationals.

stevew · 07-29-2010, 06:23 PM

"precautionary" trip to the DL.

lordscarlet · 07-30-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Needed the bullpen arm. Retroactive to 7/22 and he's already slated to start 8/6. Already said he could start Sunday. They are just being freakishly protective.

Needed the starting rotation arm.

I believe he made room for Olsen.

miked · 07-30-2010, 08:13 AM

They are trying to protect their best trading chip for his move in 3 years.

Butter · 07-30-2010, 08:21 AM

How much of this is precaution, and how much is trying not to panic the team and/or its fans?

Marmel · 07-30-2010, 08:35 AM

I think I speak for all Yankee fans when I say "Thank You!" to Washington for taking good care of our 2016 opening day pitcher.

lordscarlet · 07-30-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

I think I speak for all Yankee fans when I say "Thank You!" to Washington for taking good care of our 2016 opening day pitcher.

I think I speak for all baseball fans when I say, "Fuck you."

stevew · 07-30-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

I think I speak for all Yankee fans when I say "Thank You!" to Washington for taking good care of our 2016 opening day pitcher.

It'd be 2017. Yankees sign Pedro Alvarez, Mike Stanton and Stephen Strasburg in the 2016-17 offseason for more than a half billion dollars.

sterlingice · 08-03-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I think I speak for all baseball fans when I say, "Fuck you."

SI

Marmel · 08-03-2010, 09:17 AM

I forgot about this thread. Sorry. It is hard to keep track of the entire Yankee farm system. I have to constantly monitor information coming out from Washington, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Oakland, Cleveland, Baltimore, Florida, Houston, etc... That is a lot of work.

But the nice thing about being a Yankee fan is that MLB has set up a network where you can not only catch all the Yankee games, but all their minor league games as well. Yeah, its called MLB TV.

lordscarlet · 08-03-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

I forgot about this thread. Sorry. It is hard to keep track of the entire Yankee farm system. I have to constantly monitor information coming out from Washington, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Oakland, Cleveland, Baltimore, Florida, Houston, etc... That is a lot of work.

But the nice thing about being a Yankee fan is that MLB has set up a network where you can not only catch all the Yankee games, but all their minor league games as well. Yeah, its called MLB TV.

The other nice thing is people don't have to figure out that you're a douchebag, they just have to find out you're a Yankee fan and all the detective work is done.

Subby · 08-03-2010, 01:26 PM

Good to see it isn't hard to push the good lord's buttons

Marmel · 08-03-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

The other nice thing is people don't have to figure out that you're a douchebag, they just have to find out you're a Yankee fan and all the detective work is done.

The other great thing about being a Yankee fan is that we are so far superior than the rest of you baseball fans, that it doesn't even matter what you think.

Edited to add: Are personal attacks allowed on this board now?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 08-03-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

Edited to add: Are personal attacks allowed on this board now?

So long as there's no hint of a nipple.

dawgfan · 08-03-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

Edited to add: Are personal attacks allowed on this board now?

Exceptions are made with regards to Yankees fans.

Subby · 08-27-2010, 09:56 AM

Well that was fun while it lasted!

molson · 08-27-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

The other nice thing is people don't have to figure out that you're a douchebag

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That is exactly what the question was. People were complaining that they have to walk around on egg shells because of mod decisions. I said I act the same no matter what, someone claimed that's because Wade was a mod, and I said I would act the same regardless of whether Wade was a mod. I would be incredibly shocked if something I posted had ever been reported. The implication here is that I can say whatever I want, get reported, and I'll get away clean because Wade is a mod. But show me one post I've ever written that has been reported (prior to now when some asshat could report it later today to prove a point) and we can talk

I don't act like a douchebag, I don't get reported, I don't get boxed/banned. It's as simple as that. It has nothing to do with Wade.

Interesting bump considering recent events....

I'm going to guess this post wasn't reported. Though Marmel did call him on it.

lordscarlet · 08-27-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Interesting bump considering recent events....

I'm going to guess this post wasn't reported. Though Marmel did call him on it.

RendeR and others have said that and worse plenty of times without getting banned. I think any person on this board who called someone a douchebag one time would not get banned. The only people that get banned for personal attacks are repeat offenders. And they're generally blatantly doing it toward Ben because of mod decisions.

Particularly with such an accurate sentiment.

BishopMVP · 08-27-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Well that was fun while it lasted!

If only people saw this coming... oh wait

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Prior had the now infamous inverted W mechanics (FWIW, Strasburg is also mentioned as having these)

Chris Sale, you're next.

Marmel · 08-27-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Particularly with such an accurate sentiment.

So now that's twice.

Rizon · 08-27-2010, 10:36 AM

Strasburg on the DL?

In other surprising news: Lance Bass is gay.

Rizon · 08-27-2010, 10:37 AM

Oh wow, he's done for 2011, too.

Lance Bass is gay.

stevew · 08-27-2010, 11:18 AM

I wonder if ESPN is gonna pick up this story

samifan24 · 08-27-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

If only people saw this coming... oh waitChris Sale, you're next.

Here's a good blog post about the inverted W for anyone needing a refresher. Interestingly enough, both Jeremy Bonderman and Anthony Reyes were listed as pitchers with an increased risk of injury (the post was written several years ago) and the poster was right about both players, who have lost time with arm and shoulder injuries the last few years.

07-28-2010, 08:03 AM	#56
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	MRI came back negative, so that's good news. They were just being EXTREMELY cautious. I think 95+% of the time the pitcher takes the mound and pitches in this situation - this is just a fairly unique situation. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

07-28-2010, 01:59 PM	#59
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	And to make us Nats fans feel better, they had a great game despite scratching Strasburg. Batista and the rest of the bullpen stepped up when they needed to. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

07-29-2010, 07:24 AM	#68
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I heard no booing... well we booed chipper. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-30-2010, 08:13 AM	#73
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	They are trying to protect their best trading chip for his move in 3 years. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

07-30-2010, 08:21 AM	#74
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	How much of this is precaution, and how much is trying not to panic the team and/or its fans? __________________ My listening habits

07-27-2010, 08:30 PM	#53
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm gonna give Riggleman credit if he broke Strasburg this quickly. Never remember a pitcher not being able to get warm. Merry Strasmas.

07-28-2010, 01:06 AM	#54
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	I haven't been keeping track of Strasburg's pitch counts, but he's got the kind of pitching motion and the velocity to be an injury concern regardless (if you buy the theories of guys like Chris O'Leary and Kyle Boddy).

07-28-2010, 07:54 AM	#55
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Hey, give the guy credit...he scratched Strasburg's start in front of a nearly packed house for a team that can't give tickets away. That took some giant balls.

07-28-2010, 09:31 AM	#57
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	I've actually been quite impressed with how the Nats have handled Strasburg. He's going to be shut down anyway so he can just miss a start or two right now instead of later.

07-28-2010, 03:28 PM	#62
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	They'd probably be better off taking the hit on the invariable Tommy John sooner rather than later.

07-29-2010, 06:23 PM	#70
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	"precautionary" trip to the DL.

07-30-2010, 08:35 AM	#75
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	I think I speak for all Yankee fans when I say "Thank You!" to Washington for taking good care of our 2016 opening day pitcher. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

08-03-2010, 09:17 AM	#80
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	I forgot about this thread. Sorry. It is hard to keep track of the entire Yankee farm system. I have to constantly monitor information coming out from Washington, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Oakland, Cleveland, Baltimore, Florida, Houston, etc... That is a lot of work. But the nice thing about being a Yankee fan is that MLB has set up a network where you can not only catch all the Yankee games, but all their minor league games as well. Yeah, its called MLB TV. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

08-03-2010, 01:26 PM	#82
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Good to see it isn't hard to push the good lord's buttons __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-27-2010, 09:56 AM	#86
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Well that was fun while it lasted! __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-27-2010, 11:18 AM	#93
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder if ESPN is gonna pick up this story

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