Werewolf XIII: The Italian Village

[kingfc22]

At this point in the game we have had 3 STRAIGHT railroad votes. I didn't put out any analysis over the weekened because Lathum had me fooled and I thought we had a corect target.

All I was doing today was going back to see who said what when SackAttack and Mr. W were accused. It's not like we have a lot to go on based off those two voting days. And if we ALL just sit here without someone posting ideas I'm afraid we are going to lose.

Dubb is the only one left that is alive who didn't vote Sack on day 2 (voted henry twice) and there is no one left who did not vote for Mr. W on day 3. So the only other way I could think of that would help figure out which wolf/mafia voted for their own was to go back and look at what happened.

[digamma]

king,

How do you know the mafia tried to attack you last night?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by digamma

king,

How do you know the mafia tried to attack you last night?

got a PM saying that I was saved from an attack.

[dubb93]

how do you explain king being protected last night?

Show me some actual proof and I'll buy it. For all we know someone was bribed last night. Someone gets bribed in every game by the mafia. Untill then I have no reason to believe that King was actually protected last night. And even if he was he could still be a werewolf.

[dubb93]

Why the suspiscion on me?

I walked past you last night and not only did you smell like gunpowder, but you also smelled like a wet dog

[dubb93]

Fuck it, this is getting us nowhere....

I REALLY suspect Bug is mafia for some reason. He's been quick to jump on bandwagons that lynch innocents or wolves but slow to jump on the ones that lynch mafia.

In one of RA's last posts he had a theory that either Real Deal or Bug were mafia, Real Deal was proven innocent and now Bug is left alive flying under the radar. Lately he has been almost too quiet. More than anything this vote is just based on a feeling I have.

Vote MrBug708

[digamma]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

got a PM saying that I was saved from an attack.

I don't know if I buy this.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Fuck it, this is getting us nowhere....

I REALLY suspect Bug is mafia for some reason. He's been quick to jump on bandwagons that lynch innocents or wolves but slow to jump on the ones that lynch mafia.

In one of RA's last posts he had a theory that either Real Deal or Bug were mafia, Real Deal was proven innocent and now Bug is left alive flying under the radar. Lately he has been almost too quiet. More than anything this vote is just based on a feeling I have.

Vote MrBug708

I promise you that I am not Mafia. He had no evidence other then I posted late on a bandwagon. Never mind the fact that 8 people voted in that span of an hour and a half. That's not much of a suspicion really.

[Lathum]

Well I am pretty positive Kingfc22 is not a mafia guy.

VOTE KINFFC22

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by digamma

I don't know if I buy this.

Digamma - Mirror roles exist.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Digamma - Mirror roles exist.

You lost me (which may not be hard to do).

[MrBug708]

What is your role mirroring right now?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by digamma

You lost me (which may not be hard to do).

So far we have 2 seers - 1 that could see mafia and 1 that could see wolves
We have 2 bad guy asst. - 1 sorcerer and 1 turnocoat
I'm sure their might be 2 bodyguards - 1 that can protect against wolves and 1 that can protect against mafia.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So far we have 2 seers - 1 that could see mafia and 1 that could see wolves
We have 2 bad guy asst. - 1 sorcerer and 1 turnocoat
I'm sure their might be 2 bodyguards - 1 that can protect against wolves and 1 that can protect against mafia.

Im lost, what are you claiming then? Who is what?

[digamma]

Maybe not. We likely don't have two "duke" roles.

There might be two body guards. I don't really doubt that part of things. I'm doubting your claim in general. I hesitate to compare to other games, because they are all different, but it's strange to me that the fact you were protected would be revealed.

[digamma]

Here's what I know....
I can't trust Lathum.
I think I can trust dubb.
I've got no clue on the rest of you.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by digamma

Maybe not. We likely don't have two "duke" roles.

There might be two body guards. I don't really doubt that part of things. I'm doubting your claim in general. I hesitate to compare to other games, because they are all different, but it's strange to me that the fact you were protected would be revealed.

I only got one message and it said I was saved from the mafia's attack.

I didn't get a message saying "you are protected tonight" and then one saying "it worked" if that is what you are thinking.

I'm just going to shut up because every game that I am a good guy, I try to post ideas when I think the game is getting stale and then I have everyone accuse me of being a bad guy.

I'm a freaking villager people and if you have any better ideas on who to lynch today then you better speak up.

[MrBug708]

Im not really buying it at this point King, sorry. Everyone seems to be posting stuff at a quick rate every night on information they have *JUST* found out.

Vote - Kingfc

[digamma]

I'm going to trust my gut and go with dubb.

Vote MrBug708.

[kingfc22]

Unvote Barkeep

Vote MrBug

Digamma - you have proven to me that you are a villager

[MrBug708]

You guys are nuts! The only evidence you have of me being part of the mafia is because I didnt vote soon enough when Sackattack was killed? You've got to be kidding me! You are convinced because the werewolf seer thinks so, yet you've got one guy who got a villager killed because he lied and another guy whose pulled out "I was protected after being MIA for a few days essentially?

Great analysis guys....

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Unvote Barkeep

Vote MrBug

Digamma - you have proven to me that you are a villager

Just curious how Digamma proved himself to be a villager?

Mr. Bug has been pretty quiet which makes him suspicious to me and has seemed to shy away from drawing attention to himself, but I'm still not sure if I buy Kingfc's story either. Basically at this point I'm torn between voting for one of the two.

[MrBug708]

Posts in the thread
MrBug708 - 32
Kingfc - 24

But I guess that is considered quiet.

[digamma]

For what it's worth, the quiet angle may not be as valuable in this Werewolf game. Until today (and discounting the first vote), we've had seer-type revelations, so the game hasn't called for much analysis--just a decision on whether or not to believe the day's revelation.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Unvote Barkeep

Vote MrBug

Digamma - you have proven to me that you are a villager

Why are you so quick to unvote Barkeep now? You were so convinced he was a bad guy.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Just curious how Digamma proved himself to be a villager?

To him, I think it is by not voting for him, but I'm not sure that is much "proof" for anyone else.

[MrBug708]

Like I said guys, I'm not part of the mafia. You guys are relying way too much on one comment by Raiders Army, who really had no idea what my role is.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Why are you so quick to unvote Barkeep now? You were so convinced he was a bad guy.

Convinced, no. Suspected, yes. I thought he might be a wolf and I put my theory (good or bad) out there for others to agree or disagree with. But now all the votes are going in the direction of Bug and myself so why would I want to waste a vote.

You said yourself that you suspect Bug to be mafia. If that is where the villagers are putting their votes, then that is where I'm going to put my vote.

[MrBug708]

*shakes head*

One comment and you guys think Im mafia....

[digamma]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Like I said guys, I'm not part of the mafia. You guys are relying way too much on one comment by Raiders Army, who really had no idea what my role is.

Can you tell us more about your role, then?

And, obviously, claiming not to be mafia doesn't clear you in this game. You could honestly say you are not mafia and still be a wolf.

[MrBug708]

Even if I was a wolf, do you think I'd claim to be one?

I'm just a villager. No role of any sort. Hard to give myself away as either the mafia or a werewolf when I really have no other role then a simple villager.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

*shakes head*

One comment and you guys think Im mafia....

Ok. I am a villager. There is no bone in my body that is mafia or wolf.

What if we just kill off Lathum?

Here's the breakdown:

8 left (1 mafia, 1 wolf, 1 turncoat, 5 villagers)
- lynch me = 4 villagers
- 2 deaths = 2 villagers left vs. 3 bad guys

If Bug IS a villager the same situation occurs. Of course if he is mafia, then we have a great chance at winning.

8 left (1 mafia, 1 wolf, 1 turncoat, 5 villagers)
- lynch lathum = 5 villagers
- 2 deaths = 3 villagers vs. 2 bad guys

This 2nd option almost looks more appealing because the 2 deaths will give us that much more information to go on for tomorrows lynch.

Any thoughts?

[Barkeep49]

Except that, and this is kind of peverse, if we believe that Lathum is really the turncoat than he's a known villager in terms of good guy versus bad guy count and thus should be kept around.

[Barkeep49]

Since the bodyguard can choose himself in this game I'm going to give King the benefit of the doubt and Vote Mr. Bug. I know I am not a baddie and so the fact that he threw something out there, when no else had done so, but was willing to back away from that, and continue to give good analysis, suggests villager to me.

[MrBug708]

Looks like the villagers are shooting themselves in the foot here

[MrBug708]

I guess that means Im the odd man out here.Like I said from the beginning, I'm not the mafia.

[dubb93]

MrBug708(4)- Dubb93, KingFC22, Barkeep49, Digamma
KingFC22(2)- Lathum, MrBug708

Missing Votes: RPI-Fan(Where the hell is he? talk about flying under the radar.), PennywiseSB

[pennywisesb]

I think everyone has kinda piled on bug here and everyone seems pretty quick to vote for him. I know I had voiced that I was suspicious of him, but at this point I think my suspicion for Kingfc outweighs the suspicion for Mr. Bug. I still am having a hard time buying the information Kingfc brought forth today and so I'm going to vote Kingfc22

[pennywisesb]

Where the heck has RPI fan been lately?

[MrBug708]

I think you are too late Pennywise...

[Barkeep49]

Well if RPI votes for king then it goes to the ever wise coin flip unless someone changes their vote at the last moment.

[Vince]

I think that the deadline is 6 PM PST for this game, right?

[MrBug708]

Maybe it is, but I could have sworn it was 5 pm

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well if RPI votes for king then it goes to the ever wise coin flip unless someone changes their vote at the last moment.

And that would be sad. Then again we could all vote for Lathum.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Vince

I think that the deadline is 6 PM PST for this game, right?

yup

[MrBug708]

*sigh*

[MrBug708]

I'll post it one more time.

1. Raiders Army, the werewolf seer, thinks that either Blade or myself are mafia.
2. Raiders Army is killed
3. Lathum lies and convinces the villagers to kill Blade
4. Kingfc, who appears from the depths of not posting much, thinks that because the werewolf seer thought I was suspicious for not voting fast enough for Sackattack, a mafia member
5. Villagers decide that instead of using logic and either kill 1) the guy who held 3 days of information and suddenly decided to post now or 2)A known liar

Just seems very arbitary to me. But hey, go ahead and kill this villager.

[MrBug708]

I just find it sad that i'm guilty because of how fast or not fast enough I voted for a guy

[Lathum]

Who's a know liar?

[MrBug708]

You did say Blade was the turncoat and I dont believe he was outed...