Werewolf XV: Round 'Em Up And Hang 'Em!

[kingfc22]

YAY!! Nobody died.

Vote Dubb

IMO, it's between him and saldana.

[Fouts]

Like I said, I support RPI and his analysis has been good so far. I have no other leads.

Vote Dubb

[Bek]

I plan to be on later...closer to the vote...and im not going to jump on the Dubb bandwagon yet...i wanna see what goes down during most of the day before i come to any conclusions

[saldana]

ok, to remove 2 sets of doubt at one time, the one on whether im a good guy and the one on is dubb a bad guy.....i am the witness...i used my role last night, and I saw dubb approaching RPI-fan's house. he turned and ran when the shots rang out, but i know it was him.

good call sherrif

vote dubb

[saldana]

dola, off to work, be back 6pmish

[jeff061]

vote Dubb

The person who can verify Saldana, I'd keep quiet unless you did not guard RPI-Fan's house last night.

[henry296]

Good luck villagers. Unfortunately, I spent the night at the doctor/hospital with my fiancee and was unable to respond to the accusations.

[Poli]

Hope all is well.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Hope all is well.

Thanks ardent. She was very dehydrated after fighting a stomach flu for the past 3 days. A bunch of IV fluids later and doing better.

[hoopsguy]

Just a question for the villagers - do we think we are down to a "one bad lynch and we lose" scenario right now?

If so, then this is a perfect time for Saldana to be making a play right now.

Also, there seems to be a pretty high level of trust for RPI-Fan as a villager, based on his analysis. But it is hard to put much faith in anyone's analysis when we have yet to get a single outlaw. So is there another reason that I'm missing that people are sold on RPI as a good guy in this game?

Sorry if I'm asking stuff that should have been apparent to everyone else by now. But after re-reading the threads last night I just don't find that I'm necessarily on the same page as the masses right now. In fact, if I was going to pick two people that I was suspicious of before the reveals today it would be RPI and Jeff. But it is hard to make any particularly strong arguments for anyone based on how successful the outlaws have been at evading us to this point.

I'll be back on later to see if a vote for Dubb is the inevitable result of today's reveal. I expect it will be, but I'm curious if other people share my concern that we are about to lose on one wrongful lynching.

[jeff061]

If that's the case I would expect the witness to speak up(and be guarded tonight). If he doesn't I feel pretty safe with Dubb.

If Saldana is lying and the witness speaks up, then Saldana dies tonight, then the witness uses his ability tonight and tomorrow we kill another outlaw. Seems like a decent sized risk.

[SnDvls]

Some very interesting developments today.

[dubb93]

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana

[dubb93]

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by dubb93

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

I'm feeling better!

[dubb93]

And the reason I have been laying low is to fly under the radar so I would still be around when I needed this role. If the seer had been around I would have been my usually big mouth self the entire game. Voting me kills the witness and buys the outlaws another day guys.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana

Originally Posted by dubb93

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw?

[jeff061]

Hmm, didn't think of the fact the outlaws find out who the witness is, that makes things more tricky.

I'm leaning towards believing Dubb though...

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw?

I never accused any of the other people voting for me to be outlaws except Saldana b/c I just don't know. I said to watch out for the bandwagon b/c I am the witness. You bandwagon me we lose a day and the witness when one outlaw is sitting in plain sight right now(Saldana).

As for you reaching at strings I can assure you after we kill Saldana today you are the next on my list. Don't change my words and quit trying to save Saldana. He is an outlaw.

[dubb93]

As for my role I have been sent nothing saying it is a 1 time only action(either in PM or in the role description), only that the outlaws will learn of my identity(which Saldana did). Prehaps I can get another one tonight if I survive.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I never accused any of the other people voting for me to be outlaws except Saldana b/c I just don't know. I said to watch out for the bandwagon b/c I am the witness. You bandwagon me we lose a day and the witness when one outlaw is sitting in plain sight right now(Saldana).

As for you reaching at strings I can assure you after we kill Saldana today you are the next on my list. Don't change my words and quit trying to save Saldana. He is an outlaw.

Now who's twisting words? I'll I said was by you claiming to be the witness with 5 votes looked weird. I'm not trying to save anyone just trying to figure out where both or you are coming from. You've got strong votes against you without Saladna from RPI, Fouts, & Jeff. Looks like you might be reaching at strings to save yourself that is all.

EDIT: Never did I say the other's were outlaws, just asked you a question which one's did you think were? some people take these games way too seriously.

[jeff061]

Not strong from me, I'm waiting from more from Saldana, but I'm considering changing quite strongly. If you were an outlaw and got a PM saying Dubb witnessed you attack, what's the most obvious thing you'd do?

I don't think this should be written off.

[SnDvls]

not writing it off either. I'm looking at the players I "trust" right now. RPI and Jeff, they both have a vote on Dubb right now if that changes sure I'll change, I'm just playing devil's advocate and looking at both sides. We could really use the seer role right now, but we don't have it all we have is 2 people (tops on a lot of people's lists) pointing fingers.

[SnDvls]

dola -
my term strong is how well I believe you. and by looking at other posts some of them too.

[jeff061]

Well, I'm really a non vote now so I guess I should make it official. I only voted because I didn't realize the outlaws were notified about the witness.

unvote dubb

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Now who's twisting words? I'll I said was by you claiming to be the witness with 5 votes looked weird. I'm not trying to save anyone just trying to figure out where both or you are coming from. You've got strong votes against you without Saladna from RPI, Fouts, & Jeff. Looks like you might be reaching at strings to save yourself that is all.

That would be a bad position to take. RPI and crew have had it out for me for a while now. Just look at yesterday and today with their reactions and posts. What have I done to deserve it? Buried my vote on day 1 b/c I don't like lynching anyone there. Usually get an innocent(which Bek was), kept quiet most of the night and on day 2 voted Ardent. I mean seriously, compare his antics this game to other ones. He was being freakin weird. Then he comes out and bets money he isn't a normal villager. The dude was just strange the entire game. Then last night was I put in a position where I had to defend myself. I figured all the attention and suspecion on me was actually a good thing since it all but guaranteed I would make it through the night.

As for me being the one twisting words take one look at what you posted....

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw?

That was in response to these posts...

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana


Quote:
Originally Posted by dubb93
And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

How do these contradict each other? They are both the truth, in order for these to be true no one else that has voted for me so far HAS to be an outlaw except Saldana. You either tried to twist my words or were being a big time smart ass, either way the village needs your support or Saldana is going to be around for another night. These are the problems we run into in this game when 3 people vote without any evidence and b/f any new evidence can be presented.

[SnDvls]

I see your point. sorry, it just struck me as odd with who had voted you and all. I'll just sit back and watch for a bit.

[SnDvls]

dola=

I guess I put too much trust in some people based on their voting/posting too often. Mabey that's why I get offed by the bad guys so often too.

[jeff061]

Well you are the only one who trusts me, I got RPI and Hoops lookin at me funny .

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Well you are the only one who trusts me, I got RPI and Hoops lookin at me funny .

well if you're bad, promise me you'll save me for your last kill

[Neon_Chaos]

I just got home from a wicked party. blech. It's 3:00 AM.

Pardon me if I don't get to the 9:00 deadline, or even 12:00!

Which means you guys get more time to banter.

Votes are now due by 12:00 Midnight EDT.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't see any reason to change my vote from yesterday.

Vote saldana

[dubb93]

It looks like 4 votes for me and 2 for Saldana right now. Make the right decision guys...

As for Sundvls edit....I do take the games seriously, otherwise we have a bunch of stupid votes and stupid plays, now personally, never. It is a game. You make several smart ass comments, I call you on them. End of story, it never goes outside the game and after tonight when you find out I'm the witness I'll accept your apology

As for Saldana's fake reveal. He had no choice. I assume he got a similar PM to the one I got last night. That his kill failed and that I spotted him on his way out. He looked around the thread, saw I hadn't been on yet and figured he could atleast give it a shot. Hell, it probably not only saves him, but then people the rest of the game as I have seen no indication my role is a 1 time use and Neon has been on today and didn't correct my thinking.

[Blade6119]

dola, and screw everyone who got me killed...lol

[kingfc22]

Very interesting turn of events today.

Unvote Dubb

For now that is.

[RPI-Fan]

I'm torn right now... there is a good chance I'm done after tonight, so I really want to make my vote count.

[hoopsguy]

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

Done as in they tried to kill him last night so they will probably try it again tonight, especially if I'm the one being protected.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

I meant "done" as in its my last chance to help the villagers, probably.

BTW, I don't at all think it's a lost cause after tonight's vote. The absolute WORST case scenario is this:

1) There are 4 Outlaws (8-4 right now)
2) We lynch a villager today (7-4)
3) We lose another villager tonight (6-4)
4) We get an Outlaw tomorrow & lose a villager to the Outlaw leader (5-3)
5) Lose another villager at night (4-3)

Even in that scenario, we have a prayer of winning. And that is with a LOT of things going wrong for us.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by dubb93

That would be a bad position to take. RPI and crew have had it out for me for a while now. Just look at yesterday and today with their reactions and posts. What have I done to deserve it? Buried my vote on day 1 b/c I don't like lynching anyone there. Usually get an innocent(which Bek was), kept quiet most of the night and on day 2 voted Ardent. I mean seriously, compare his antics this game to other ones. He was being freakin weird. Then he comes out and bets money he isn't a normal villager. The dude was just strange the entire game. Then last night was I put in a position where I had to defend myself. I figured all the attention and suspecion on me was actually a good thing since it all but guaranteed I would make it through the night.

You are acting more like an outlaw than a witness. A witness would make his statement and leave it at that. I am getting a bad vibe from you. I won't be changing my vote.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Fouts

You are acting more like an outlaw than a witness. A witness would make his statement and leave it at that. I am getting a bad vibe from you. I won't be changing my vote.

Keep in mind I was a witness with 5 votes on me by the time I got here to post anything. Also the outlaw I saw had already pointed a finger at me. I was in no position to just post what I saw.

[jeff061]

I've never ever seen a witness or seer role make a statment and leave it at that when they are being doubted, generally they get really frustrated.

[Fouts]

Dubb's post was very creative (adding knife and shadows). Something a bad guy would do to save his hide. Experience has taught us to go with the first guy and if he's wrong lynch the other. Jeff, I'd be careful about siding with dubb.

I'm not 100 percent sure on saldana, but it is usually safest to side with the first admission.

[jeff061]

But he is trying to save his hide. Saldana would be acting the same if he was around, which is why I haven't cast my vote yet.

I'm not 100 percent sure on saldana, but it is usually safest to side with the first admission.

I believe I won a game with you because people had that opinion .

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

You keep saying the sky is falling, but I don't think we started with more than 3 outlaws (normal with 19 people), plus the MoLMF. That number just seems right. There are 13 of us left, so that is 10-3.

1. Passacaglia - ??? very quiet
2. hoopsguy - talkative, not analyzing but preaching doom
3. saldana - claims witness
4. dubb93 - claims witness after saldana accused him
5. RPI-Fan - good analyzing from the beginning, targeted dubb early
6. Bek - baron
7. Mr. Wednesday - ???
8. jeff061 - ??? semi-defending dubb
9. Fouts - villager
10. kingfc22 - ???
11. SnDvls - ??? suspicious
12. Schmidty - ??? very quiet
13. Realdeal - judge in jail, not disputed

Any thoughts?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by jeff061

But he is trying to save his hide. Saldana would be acting the same if he was around, which is why I haven't cast my vote yet.



I believe I won a game with you because people had that opinion .

You'll have to remind me, I've been in too many of these games.

We have the numbers to do a 1 for 1 swap.

[jeff061]

I think the Ardent/Penny kill messes with the perception of things and the lack of a seer adds a bit to it as well. But the bodyguard has done a good job so far, two no kill nights.

[Fouts]

Anyone know if the witness is a one and done person in this game? He has been in previous games.

[jeff061]

The creature game, I pretended to be a seer role and falsely accused the real seer. People believed me. Not sure if they would of if I didn't come out first.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Anyone know if the witness is a one and done person in this game? He has been in previous games.

I can't imagine it would be multiple times. That would be pretty damn powerful.