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Old 10-25-2006, 10:07 PM   #351
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It's the first day since Special Investigator Ben Lewis' body was found with what appeared to be teeth marks in his skull.

"We must find the zombies!" cried the citizens of Raccoon City.

After much discussion it was settled that bulletsponge must be a zombie for he was up for execution all day and couldn't even mount a defense! bulletsponge was brought to the townsquare for his judgement.

"How do we kill a zombie? Aren't they already dead?" wondered the crowd.

The executioner emerged from the crowd with a shotgun in hand. Surely such a weapon would ummm REALLY kill the undead! Three shots to the head and bulletsponge slumped to the crowd. There was a murmur from the crowd of onlookers as the coroner looked over his body...

He found a gun and holster, like that of the wild wild west. Was bulletsponge a wannabe gunslinger? Was he a zombie???

As the coroner took a blood sample from bulletsponge it was determined... he was NOT a zombie. The crowd started to grumble as they headed home in time for the curfew. Before dragging the body back to the morgue to be burned, it was noticed that bulletsponge had a small tattoo of what appeared to be a four leaf clover hidden on his ankle.


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Old 10-25-2006, 10:08 PM   #352
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Bullet coming up as a non-STAR would go a little ways towards relieving this paranoia as you were the first person to position him as a candidate. Bullet coming up as a STAR will probably increase it.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:09 PM   #353
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So apparently Bullet was going to be lucky?
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:10 PM   #354
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Alan, I have not gone through each of the posts, but I did note the first post for each person, which is the one that usually reads "villager checking in".

There was not a single one of those 18 that indicated faction. I'll list the post numbers if you want to get down to brass tacks on this point.

If the point was that later in the game people were identifying faction, then I will have to re-read a couple of hundred posts instead of the 50 or so it took to put this list together.

Conceptually, I agree that it is not necessarily the best option for everyone to reveal faction on Day #1.

In terms of why I reacted to it, perhaps it was the next line that followed the part you quoted just now.



As one of the people who revealed as STARS, this caught my attention. As did the "look like you are candidate #1" post this morning. Basically, I have entered Alan T paranoia mode; I guess you can decide whether or not it is worth arguing if it is justified.

I quoted what I said, so not much to argue. You said I said it was an epidemic, I said it was 3-4 people

I asked what the motivation for those people who revealed as such were, and didnt get alot of people responding other than you.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:10 PM   #355
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Clover, I assume = lucky? For the people familiar with RE, I'm guessing this doesn't mean anything at all in terms of Umbrella?
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:13 PM   #356
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Clover, I assume = lucky? For the people familiar with RE, I'm guessing this doesn't mean anything at all in terms of Umbrella?

Page 1 has his listed as S.T.A.R.S.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:16 PM   #357
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Looks like on page 1, he was a STARS
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:16 PM   #358
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With the gun and holster, Im guessing he might have been the sniper.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:19 PM   #359
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:20 PM   #360
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For the record, here is what I show for the final vote.

(11) Bulletsponge - Alan (180), Hoops (253), Spleen (257), Tyrith (273), SnDvls (276), BrianD (281), Saldana (283), MrW (286), Glen (308), Cronin (316), Chief (343)

(6) St.Cronin - Fouts (120), Anxiety (235), Lathum (246), KWhit (278), Path (279), LSG (290)

(1) Fouts - Ntndeacon (184)
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:21 PM   #361
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Thats what I have also. Here is the voting path of the day:

(112) Lathum votes Hoopsguy (1)
(120) Fouts votes St.cronin (1)
(125) st.cronin votes hoopsguy (2)
(180) Alan votes Bulletsponge (1)
(184) Ntndeacon votes fouts (1)
(190) Kwhit votes BrianD (1)
(235) Anxiety votes St.Cronin (2)
(246) Lathum UNVOTES Hoopsguy (1) ***
(246) Lathum votes St.cronin (3)
(253) Hoopsguy votes Bulletsponge (2)
(257) spleen votes bulletsponge (3)
(273) Tyrith votes Bulletsponge (4)
(276) Sndvls votes Bulletsponge (5)
(278) Kwhit UNVOTES BrianD (0) ***
(278) Kwhit votes Stcronin (4)
(279) Path votes Stcronin (5)
(281) BrianD votes Bulletsponge (6)
(283) Saldana votes Bulletsponge (7)
(286) Mr. Wednesday votes Bulletsponge (8)
(290) Lonestargirl votes St.cronin (6)
(308) Glengoyne votes Bulletsponge (9)
(313) Chief Rum votes Lathum (1)
(316) St.Cronin UNVOTES Hoopsguy (0) ***
(316) St.cronin votes Bulletsponge (10)
(318) Chief Rum UNVOTES Lathum (0) ***
(343) Chief Rum votes Bulletsponge (11)
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:26 PM   #362
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Clover, I assume = lucky? For the people familiar with RE, I'm guessing this doesn't mean anything at all in terms of Umbrella?

lol, guess Bullet wasnt too lucky after all...


So Chubby if I look at my ankle, do I see a clover there?
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:28 PM   #363
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Interesting bits, irrespective of bullet's STARS role:
Tyrith and SnDvls voted in quick succession for bulletsponge to break a tie.
KWhit and path12 voted in quick succession for st.cronin to create a tie.
BrianD, Saldana, and I piled onto bulletsponge to break the tie again, with Saldana's vote ultimately serving as the lynch vote.
LSG's vote for st.cronin brought the margin within two so that a flip would have tied things up.
Chief Rum's vote was so late as to be practically a throw-away.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:33 PM   #364
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Dola, I'm not sure how much (if anything) indicative there is in there. We'll only know for sure once we find out st.cronin's role.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:35 PM   #365
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Dola, I'm not sure how much (if anything) indicative there is in there. We'll only know for sure once we find out st.cronin's role.

I don't think I will be voting for St.cronin tommorrow. I have a hunch I will be playing tommorrow. But I will share it with you all in the morning. not before night actions
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:38 PM   #366
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I don't think I will be voting for St.cronin tommorrow. I have a hunch I will be playing tommorrow. But I will share it with you all in the morning. not before night actions

Tantilizing for the good guys, and a veiled threat or maybe a dare for the bad guys.

Nice Post.

I'm looking forward to hear you out.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:39 PM   #367
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Tantilizing for the good guys, and a veiled threat or maybe a dare for the bad guys.

Nice Post.

I'm looking forward to hear you out.


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Old 10-25-2006, 10:42 PM   #368
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Figures that bullet was a STARS. Impressive houdini defense by st.cronin.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:43 PM   #369
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Interesting bits, irrespective of bullet's STARS role:
Tyrith and SnDvls voted in quick succession for bulletsponge to break a tie.
KWhit and path12 voted in quick succession for st.cronin to create a tie.
BrianD, Saldana, and I piled onto bulletsponge to break the tie again, with Saldana's vote ultimately serving as the lynch vote.
LSG's vote for st.cronin brought the margin within two so that a flip would have tied things up.
Chief Rum's vote was so late as to be practically a throw-away.

I know I wasn't worried about ties at the time...it was maybe 3 CST when I voted, way too early for that kind of thing.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:51 PM   #370
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Sure, but they still go towards momentum onto bulletsponge. Except for LSG's later vote, I was thinking more in terms of the momentum question than the ties question.

Alan, I wasn't saying I would vote for st.cronin tomorrow. I haven't even started thinking about tomorrow yet, and st.cronin is not high on my "get" list. (Come to think of it, no one is, yet...)
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:55 PM   #371
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From the sounds of the roles, there are going to be a good number of night actions. We should hopefully have something more to work off of tomorrow than we did today - obviously there is the vote but perhaps someone will be able to bring forward key info as well.
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:05 PM   #372
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i was playing?
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:06 PM   #373
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:21 PM   #374
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Well, I can say I was absolutely going for a tie at the time and that was the main reason for my vote. There were still quite a lot of votes to be placed and it was early enough to make it a horserace. Bullet pulled ahead pretty steadily after my tie as it turned out.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:11 AM   #375
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i was playing?

Nice.

Nothing to see here Bullet.



Oh and sorry for the vote. At least we didn't lynch you.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:14 AM   #376
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:15 AM   #377
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From the sounds of the roles, there are going to be a good number of night actions. We should hopefully have something more to work off of tomorrow than we did today - obviously there is the vote but perhaps someone will be able to bring forward key info as well.

Yes, I'm hoping that we'll have a glorious interaction of night actions that yields some helpful information.

I'll just be sitting home with my shotgun, trying to determine who is undead.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:16 AM   #378
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Ok.. signs that this game is getting to me.. I actually was laying in bed trying to get some sleep, and things finally clicked for me.

I'll go ahead and say what my thoughts are. I'm not too worried about dying tonight, but I have a feeling that I won't live past night 2 in this game. So I want to try to get some forward momentum going here.

I know people earlier were arguing with the way the vote shaped up today we didn't learn much.. but in fact I think I learned everything i needed to.

I'm not too sad about losing a STARS today, when the person doesnt even know he's in the game, I doubt he would have been a big contributer.. so better him than someone who could be more valuable..

That said, I was struggling all day with one little piece that just was not sitting right. Something about how St.Cronin was playing that just was not fitting into the puzzle in my head perfect. I tried to toss him some lines several times to see what he would do with them, and it got me no where.

I finally a little bit ago realized why. I was looking at things in the wrong perspective. I think I learned everything i needed to yesterday from the conversations and how the very start of the day's voting went. The interaction with lathum, Hoops, St.cronin and fouts gives me exactly what I need.

I can say with 99.9% accuracy right now the following:

1) Either Fouts or St.Cronin is not STARS
2) If we lynch Fouts and he ends up as not STARS, I fully trust Hoops and St.cronin (until at least night 3 when converstions start).
3) If Fouts ends up good, then that means St. Cronin is bad and I'm not sure if it says much about Hoops one way or another.

I'm pretty sure I'll be around tommorrow and my vote will be for Fouts. I think if Fouts dies bad like I perceive he will, it will make my trusted list:

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Which is a pretty good start for day 2 I hope.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:20 AM   #379
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Well, I can say I was absolutely going for a tie at the time and that was the main reason for my vote. There were still quite a lot of votes to be placed and it was early enough to make it a horserace. Bullet pulled ahead pretty steadily after my tie as it turned out.

So your saying you went for the tie? But only to force the others to "pick a horse"? I have a lot to learn about this game.

As for my vote. It was pretty well snDvls that set me down the path I chose. His argument was pretty convincing, although I don't believe Bullet was his idea. I was pretty unsatisfied going after Cronin.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:21 AM   #380
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Ok.. signs that this game is getting to me.. I actually was laying in bed trying to get some sleep, and things finally clicked for me.

I'll go ahead and say what my thoughts are. I'm not too worried about dying tonight, but I have a feeling that I won't live past night 2 in this game. So I want to try to get some forward momentum going here.

I know people earlier were arguing with the way the vote shaped up today we didn't learn much.. but in fact I think I learned everything i needed to.

I'm not too sad about losing a STARS today, when the person doesnt even know he's in the game, I doubt he would have been a big contributer.. so better him than someone who could be more valuable..

That said, I was struggling all day with one little piece that just was not sitting right. Something about how St.Cronin was playing that just was not fitting into the puzzle in my head perfect. I tried to toss him some lines several times to see what he would do with them, and it got me no where.

I finally a little bit ago realized why. I was looking at things in the wrong perspective. I think I learned everything i needed to yesterday from the conversations and how the very start of the day's voting went. The interaction with lathum, Hoops, St.cronin and fouts gives me exactly what I need.

I can say with 99.9% accuracy right now the following:

1) Either Fouts or St.Cronin is not STARS
2) If we lynch Fouts and he ends up as not STARS, I fully trust Hoops and St.cronin (until at least night 3 when converstions start).
3) If Fouts ends up good, then that means St. Cronin is bad and I'm not sure if it says much about Hoops one way or another.

I'm pretty sure I'll be around tommorrow and my vote will be for Fouts. I think if Fouts dies bad like I perceive he will, it will make my trusted list:

Alan T
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Which is a pretty good start for day 2 I hope.


That would be quite impressive if true. I don't suppose you would like to elaborate?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:26 AM   #381
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That would be quite impressive if true. I don't suppose you would like to elaborate?

I'll just say that you aren't what I thought you were most of the day today. And that helped me answer the frustrations i was having with you completely ignoring alot of my points trying to push you for your thoughts on stuff.

I kept going back and forth debating if you were bad or not based solely on your actions. It was only when I looked at the collective actions of the whole that I pieced it together.

I might still be guessing wrong about you, but it would definitly help things be alot easier for me to develop a CoT if Fouts is bad and you are good.

All I know for sure is that either you or Fouts is bad. If this is not true, then please just lynch me since I am completely off on my analysis.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:32 AM   #382
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I'll just say that you aren't what I thought you were most of the day today. And that helped me answer the frustrations i was having with you completely ignoring alot of my points trying to push you for your thoughts on stuff.

I kept going back and forth debating if you were bad or not based solely on your actions. It was only when I looked at the collective actions of the whole that I pieced it together.

I might still be guessing wrong about you, but it would definitly help things be alot easier for me to develop a CoT if Fouts is bad and you are good.

All I know for sure is that either you or Fouts is bad. If this is not true, then please just lynch me since I am completely off on my analysis.

When you say "bad" do you mean not Stars?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:33 AM   #383
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When you say "bad" do you mean not Stars?

Yep, for the case of this discussion I am considering bad = umbrella or zombies
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:37 AM   #384
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Welp back to bed for me. I'm sure this will hopefully kick up some fun discussion tommorrow
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:38 AM   #385
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So if Fouts is good.. We lynch Cronin.

If Fouts is bad Cronin is in the CoT?

I think you're going to have to flesh this out for us a bit. I'm a little uncomfortable classifying what I read in that exchange as evidence of a one for one. The wolves already have a one person head start....I don't like the idea of giving them a big lead on what might be a one for one. I think I see where you are going, but I'll need more.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:38 AM   #386
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I can't really wrap my head around how you came up with me or Fouts. I mean, Fouts voted for me, but I never went near him. That to me could look like two potential bad guys. I don't quite see how hoops fits in ...

what are your thoughts on Lathum?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:39 AM   #387
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So your saying you went for the tie? But only to force the others to "pick a horse"? I have a lot to learn about this game.

As for my vote. It was pretty well snDvls that set me down the path I chose. His argument was pretty convincing, although I don't believe Bullet was his idea. I was pretty unsatisfied going after Cronin.

Yeah. Sometimes you can find out quite a bit from a tie when there's still time before the deadline. For instance, after I tied it up with cronin most every vote that came in after that except for LSG's was for bullet. Now that very well could just be because he wasn't around -- but it could also be because some baddies knew that he wasn't on their team. Going further, it could also mean that some people on cronin's team didn't want a close vote.

Doesn't really say anything definitive at this time (and I'm not saying cronin is bad), but couple that with Alan's recent observation and maybe it fits in with that theory. Time will tell.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:39 AM   #388
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I think I see where you are going, but I'll need more.

can you possibly explain it to me, cause I'm pretty stumped
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:40 AM   #389
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I can say with 99.9% accuracy right now the following:

1) Either Fouts or St.Cronin is not STARS
2) If we lynch Fouts and he ends up as not STARS, I fully trust Hoops and St.cronin (until at least night 3 when converstions start).
3) If Fouts ends up good, then that means St. Cronin is bad and I'm not sure if it says much about Hoops one way or another.

I'm pretty sure I'll be around tommorrow and my vote will be for Fouts. I think if Fouts dies bad like I perceive he will, it will make my trusted list:

Alan T
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Which is a pretty good start for day 2 I hope.

I call BS. 99.9%? You get all that from me voting on st.cronin because he cut my throat last game?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:44 AM   #390
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Just to get this straight before we start day 2. Sacrificing Fouts to find out if st.cronin is bad, is NOT an option I support.

Play it straight, don't go lynching people willy nilly because of some so-called "99.9%" hunch. Work it out based on actual evidence.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:45 AM   #391
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I call BS. 99.9%? You get all that from me voting on st.cronin because he cut my throat last game?

I don't get it, either.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:46 AM   #392
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can you possibly explain it to me, cause I'm pretty stumped


I think Fouts is onto it, but I think there must be more.

I'm too tired to even try connecting the dots. I just deleted a sentence about corn dogs and tacos, I'm seriously typing in my sleep. nite all.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:47 AM   #393
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And finally,

Lest we all forget, Alan started the voting on bullet, and campaigned to have him lynched. Now he is creating a smokescreen for day 2, so we all forget the blood on his hands.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:49 AM   #395
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Just to get this straight before we start day 2. Sacrificing Fouts to find out if st.cronin is bad, is NOT an option I support.

Play it straight, don't go lynching people willy nilly because of some so-called "99.9%" hunch. Work it out based on actual evidence.

I did smile when I read Alan's post, cause I thought to myself. Well I'll bet Fouts would rather trade places with Cronin.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:52 AM   #396
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Lathum, do you have any idea what these guys are talking about?
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:52 AM   #397
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I did smile when I read Alan's post, cause I thought to myself. Well I'll bet Fouts would rather trade places with Cronin.

No. I'm not into trading one for one, when they both could possibly be on the same side. This looks like a perfect move for a bad guy, get two people lined up for a fight on day 2. Unfortunately for Alan, we have some veterans that won't fall for that.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:54 AM   #398
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And further, just because one of us are lynched and come up good, doesn't mean the other is bad.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:02 AM   #399
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Lathum, do you have any idea what these guys are talking about?

no clue but my brain is fried after spending the night at a punk rock show so I am pretty much useless as I eat my egg sandwich.

FWIW AlanT is playing the helpfull villegar role that i've seen him play as a baddie before in the animal farm game. He talked alot prior to getting his role and I think he feels the need to back it up.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:07 AM   #400
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no clue but my brain is fried after spending the night at a punk rock show so I am pretty much useless as I eat my egg sandwich.

FWIW AlanT is playing the helpfull villegar role that i've seen him play as a baddie before in the animal farm game. He talked alot prior to getting his role and I think he feels the need to back it up.

To be fair, I have seen Alan play this sort of role in games where he is a villager, too. He is often very active early in the game.
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