Tom Vilsack running for president in 2008 (PING: Iowa Folks)

albionmoonlight · 11-09-2006, 11:30 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/....ap/index.html

Democratic governor of Iowa.

Anyone know anything about this guy?

John Galt · 11-09-2006, 11:34 AM

I've posted about him in a couple previous threads (that I'm too lazy to dig up). I'm a fan.

I think Vilsack's biggest asset is his personal history (because I believe that matters a lot in presidential elections). He was an orphan who was adopted and raised by a Roman Catholic family in PA. He is self-made, became a lawyer in Iowa, mayor of Mt. Pleasant, IA, and the first democrat governor in Iowa in 30 years. He is an effective speaker, generally worked well with an opposing state congress, and has very few black marks. He is also is the head of the DLC which Clinton used to become president. I think being a governor from a Midwestern state is also very helpful as the Democrats will do much better with a Midwest strategy rather than a Southern one.

JPhillips · 11-09-2006, 11:35 AM

In interviews he's about as exciting as corn.

QuikSand · 11-09-2006, 11:40 AM

He has a funny-sounding name. Strike two.

Bee · 11-09-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

He has a funny-sounding name. Strike two.

Was the first strike his interviewing skills or that John Galt was a fan?

John Galt · 11-09-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

He has a funny-sounding name. Strike two.

Specifically, he sounds like he is a pickle. I agree that, sadly, that is a big stumbling block.

John Galt · 11-09-2006, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee

Was the first strike his interviewing skills or that John Galt was a fan?

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-09-2006, 11:43 AM

Corn and now pickles? You guys are making me hungry.

John Galt · 11-09-2006, 11:48 AM

Here are some Youtube videos if people are interested in seeing him speak:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DxE7v5auHQA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OitBaCtUecM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C9ulFKlpY7s

As I said, I think he is an "effective" public speaker. He is not the best, but generally above average. As are current president has shown, excellent public speaking is not a prerequisite for the job.

albionmoonlight · 11-09-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Corn and now pickles? You guys are making me hungry.

30 minutes from now . . .

LUNCH COUNTER LADY: What'll you have Jon?

JONATHAN EZARIK: Corn and Pickles! A big plate of 'em!

LUNCH LADY: What!?

JONATHAN EZARIK: Or pickled corn if you have it. Whatever. I'm easy.

Jonathan Ezarik · 11-09-2006, 11:51 AM

M GO BLUE!!! · 11-09-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

He has a funny-sounding name. Strike two.

Yeah, but some people will think the name is Tom Sellick.

Subby · 11-09-2006, 12:09 PM

If he changes to Tom Nutsack, then I'm down.

Joe Canadian · 11-09-2006, 12:11 PM

From the clips... he's not a great speaker, but I wouldn't exactly call him horrible, either.

rkmsuf · 11-09-2006, 12:12 PM

'Sack in 08

JPhillips · 11-09-2006, 12:16 PM

Show Me
Some
'Sack

st.cronin · 11-09-2006, 12:54 PM

His name is far from the worst among the potential Democratic candidates.

timmynausea · 11-09-2006, 01:15 PM

Teabag the Republicans
Vote 'Sack in '08

cody8200 · 11-09-2006, 01:20 PM

I'm a republican that could someday vote for a moderate democrat. What do you dem's think of Bayh from Indiana? I've heard him speak a number of times and I liked what I heard. Especially concerning his thoughts on national security.

kcchief19 · 11-09-2006, 01:50 PM

I feel sorry for him because he seems like a very genuine person, an intelligent guy and a noble public servant who has absolutely no chance at doing anything except making the Iowa caucus irrelevant. All that will do is make the New Hampshire primary even more vital since most of the more notable names will bypass Iowa completely due to the fact that they will gain no momentum or exposure from campaigning there.

I think Vilsack fits into a range of Midwestern governors who will probably enter the presidential race with a more realistic shot at the vice presidency. Bayh in Indiana and Sebelius in Kansas are two more names that will be on a VP short list. I think Bayh could be a sleeper to break out of the pack for the top slot on the ticket, but it depends who else enters the race.

Ajaxab · 11-09-2006, 01:57 PM

Apparently, he's also happy about Canada's "new" 24 hour clock. Check out the end of the clip at hxxp://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen2/iowa.mpg.

mhass · 11-09-2006, 01:58 PM

Vilsack will eventually have to answer up for a scandal that faded during the election build-up. That's the statewide labor agency that was paying non-college educated bureaucrats several hundred thousand dollars in salary and then piling on that much again in bonuses.

PraetorianX · 11-09-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cody8200

I'm a republican that could someday vote for a moderate democrat. What do you dem's think of Bayh from Indiana? I've heard him speak a number of times and I liked what I heard. Especially concerning his thoughts on national security.

Personally, I'd love Bayh. He was great as Gov. of Indiana, but I fear he'd be more likely as a VP.

QuikSand · 02-23-2007, 10:48 AM

Well, that was fun.

John Galt · 02-23-2007, 11:16 AM

Yeah, no money and no name pretty much did him in. Oh well.

albionmoonlight · 02-23-2007, 11:47 AM

By pulling out now he demonstrates a sense of fiscal responsibility and realism that makes me wish that he were president . . .

Oh well.

Ryche · 02-23-2007, 01:14 PM

I think a sense of realism would have kept him out of the race to begin with.

stevew · 02-23-2007, 02:11 PM

So, we're down to Hillary vs Barack Hussein Obama vs John Edwards like that already? That sucks.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-23-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So, we're down to Hillary vs Barack Hussein Obama vs John Edwards like that already? That sucks.

That's where you were before today's announcement anyway.
(actually, I think you've got one too many in the list, as it's a two horse race)

Warhammer · 02-23-2007, 02:17 PM

And people wonder why we can't find any good presidents.

We really need to get away from the primary system.

st.cronin · 02-23-2007, 02:54 PM

So much for any chance of me voting Democratic in '08.

Ryche · 02-23-2007, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

So, we're down to Hillary vs Barack Hussein Obama vs John Edwards like that already? That sucks.

Biden is still in the race, isn't he? And Dodd, Kucinich. Possibly others still.

cartman · 02-23-2007, 10:36 PM

Then there's the rumor that Gore will announce his candidacy during the acceptance speech if "An Inconvenient Truth" wins the Best Documentary Oscar.

Greyroofoo · 02-23-2007, 11:29 PM

Kucinich isn't in the race to win

st.cronin · 02-24-2007, 12:11 AM

There is also still Richardson, who I had forgot about earlier.

ISiddiqui · 02-24-2007, 11:43 AM

Richardson would be the best choice, so naturally, he isn't going to win

.

st.cronin · 02-24-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Richardson would be the best choice, so naturally, he isn't going to win

.

Do you really think so? I would like to hear you expand on this, if you don't mind. Not that he won't win, but he would be the best choice.

albionmoonlight · 02-11-2020, 10:54 AM

It all worked out for him in the end:

Former Gov. Vilsack claims $150,000 Powerball prize

Subby · 02-11-2020, 11:27 AM

God I love underdog stories.

11-09-2006, 11:34 AM	#2
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	I've posted about him in a couple previous threads (that I'm too lazy to dig up). I'm a fan. I think Vilsack's biggest asset is his personal history (because I believe that matters a lot in presidential elections). He was an orphan who was adopted and raised by a Roman Catholic family in PA. He is self-made, became a lawyer in Iowa, mayor of Mt. Pleasant, IA, and the first democrat governor in Iowa in 30 years. He is an effective speaker, generally worked well with an opposing state congress, and has very few black marks. He is also is the head of the DLC which Clinton used to become president. I think being a governor from a Midwestern state is also very helpful as the Democrats will do much better with a Midwest strategy rather than a Southern one. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

11-09-2006, 11:35 AM	#3
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	In interviews he's about as exciting as corn. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-09-2006, 11:48 AM	#9
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Here are some Youtube videos if people are interested in seeing him speak: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DxE7v5auHQA http://youtube.com/watch?v=OitBaCtUecM http://youtube.com/watch?v=C9ulFKlpY7s As I said, I think he is an "effective" public speaker. He is not the best, but generally above average. As are current president has shown, excellent public speaking is not a prerequisite for the job. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

11-09-2006, 12:11 PM	#14
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	From the clips... he's not a great speaker, but I wouldn't exactly call him horrible, either. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

11-09-2006, 12:12 PM	#15
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	'Sack in 08 __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-09-2006, 11:40 AM	#4
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	He has a funny-sounding name. Strike two.

11-09-2006, 11:43 AM	#8
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Corn and now pickles? You guys are making me hungry.

11-09-2006, 11:51 AM	#11
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA

11-09-2006, 12:09 PM	#13
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	If he changes to Tom Nutsack, then I'm down.

11-09-2006, 12:16 PM	#16
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Show Me Some 'Sack __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-09-2006, 12:54 PM	#17
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	His name is far from the worst among the potential Democratic candidates. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

11-09-2006, 01:15 PM	#18
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Teabag the Republicans Vote 'Sack in '08

11-09-2006, 01:20 PM	#19
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	I'm a republican that could someday vote for a moderate democrat. What do you dem's think of Bayh from Indiana? I've heard him speak a number of times and I liked what I heard. Especially concerning his thoughts on national security.

11-09-2006, 01:50 PM	#20
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I feel sorry for him because he seems like a very genuine person, an intelligent guy and a noble public servant who has absolutely no chance at doing anything except making the Iowa caucus irrelevant. All that will do is make the New Hampshire primary even more vital since most of the more notable names will bypass Iowa completely due to the fact that they will gain no momentum or exposure from campaigning there. I think Vilsack fits into a range of Midwestern governors who will probably enter the presidential race with a more realistic shot at the vice presidency. Bayh in Indiana and Sebelius in Kansas are two more names that will be on a VP short list. I think Bayh could be a sleeper to break out of the pack for the top slot on the ticket, but it depends who else enters the race.

11-09-2006, 01:57 PM	#21
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	Apparently, he's also happy about Canada's "new" 24 hour clock. Check out the end of the clip at hxxp://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen2/iowa.mpg.

11-09-2006, 01:58 PM	#22
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	Vilsack will eventually have to answer up for a scandal that faded during the election build-up. That's the statewide labor agency that was paying non-college educated bureaucrats several hundred thousand dollars in salary and then piling on that much again in bonuses. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

02-23-2007, 10:48 AM	#24
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Well, that was fun.

02-23-2007, 11:16 AM	#25
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Yeah, no money and no name pretty much did him in. Oh well. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

02-23-2007, 11:47 AM	#26
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	By pulling out now he demonstrates a sense of fiscal responsibility and realism that makes me wish that he were president . . . Oh well.

02-23-2007, 01:14 PM	#27
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	I think a sense of realism would have kept him out of the race to begin with. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

02-23-2007, 02:11 PM	#28
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So, we're down to Hillary vs Barack Hussein Obama vs John Edwards like that already? That sucks.

02-23-2007, 02:17 PM	#30
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	And people wonder why we can't find any good presidents. We really need to get away from the primary system.

02-23-2007, 02:54 PM	#31
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	So much for any chance of me voting Democratic in '08. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-23-2007, 10:36 PM	#33
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Then there's the rumor that Gore will announce his candidacy during the acceptance speech if "An Inconvenient Truth" wins the Best Documentary Oscar. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-23-2007, 11:29 PM	#34
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Kucinich isn't in the race to win

02-24-2007, 12:11 AM	#35
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There is also still Richardson, who I had forgot about earlier. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-24-2007, 11:43 AM	#36
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Richardson would be the best choice, so naturally, he isn't going to win . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-11-2020, 10:54 AM	#38
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	It all worked out for him in the end: Former Gov. Vilsack claims $150,000 Powerball prize

02-11-2020, 11:27 AM	#39
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