Werewolf XXV: A long time ago...game over, Sith win,full role listing at 2030 - Page 14

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:06 PM

To help the rest of the jedi. More than one person has stated my death would benefit the jedi. So be it. If I'm of more benefit dead than alive, I can hold my head high and sleep at night.

Desnudo · 03-05-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Why do you have a death wish?

It's how he plays. Sow confusion. I'm thinking about giving him his wish, but I'd rather see what happens if we string up dubb.

TazFTW · 03-05-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Vote Ardent and end this charade.

Okily-dokily.

VOTE ARDENT

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

It's how he plays. Sow confusion. I'm thinking about giving him his wish, but I'd rather see what happens if we string up dubb.

Well, I want to avoid lynching AE because I think he is clean. I don't have any read like that on Dubb. But I am a little concerned with why Dubb would choose to start a vote on AE.

KWhit · 03-05-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

It's how he plays. Sow confusion.

I don't (and never will) understand why some villagers/jedi/whatever would play this way. I find it completely unhelpful to the rest of the good guys.

So either Ardent is a sith, or he's an unhelpful jedi keeping us from finding the sith. So he needs to go, IMO.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I don't (and never will) understand why some villagers/jedi/whatever would play this way. I find it completely unhelpful to the rest of the good guys.

So either Ardent is a sith, or he's an unhelpful jedi keeping us from finding the sith. So he needs to go, IMO.

Thanks for being a jerk about it, kwhit.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:14 PM

I'd prefer at least one more vote in my direction so that no one feels I'll do a late switch.

KWhit · 03-05-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Thanks for being a jerk about it, kwhit.

Why is that being a jerk? It's my honest assessment of the situation.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:16 PM

My honest assessment is you're being a jerk.

hoopsguy · 03-05-2006, 08:16 PM

Votes updated through Post #656

Ardent - Dubb (532), Hoops (550), mckerney (558), Barkeep (561), KWhit (611), Tanglewood (620), Ardent (621), Taz (653)

Dubb - Schmidty (553), Sack (556), Jeeber (578), Desnudo (583), Gram (586), Qwik (588), SnDvls (610)

Qwikshot - Cartman (594)

Not Voted: King, Penny, StKelly

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:17 PM

By the way, I will be retiring from Werewolf games after this game. It's been a great run.

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:17 PM

Cartman are you locked on to Qwik?

KWhit · 03-05-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

My honest assessment is you're being a jerk.

tanglewood · 03-05-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

My honest assessment is you're being a jerk.

It's pretty much how I feel too, does that make me a jerk? I just don't understand why you're being so defeatist about the entire exercise.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:17 PM

Do whatever you'd like, kwhit. You're still a jerk to me.

KWhit · 03-05-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

It's pretty much how I feel too, does that make me a jerk? I just don't understand why you're being so defeatist about the entire exercise.

For the second game in a row.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

It's pretty much how I feel too, does that make me a jerk? I just don't understand why you're being so defeatist about the entire exercise.

I'm not being a defeatist. I'm just choose a way to play the game others have in the past.

Telling someone they are useless is not a good way to win friends and influence people.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

For the second game in a row.

Better yet, ignore list.

Desnudo · 03-05-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Well, I want to avoid lynching AE because I think he is clean. I don't have any read like that on Dubb. But I am a little concerned with why Dubb would choose to start a vote on AE.

The way I read it is random selection from a small group. Summarizing why I think Dubb's argument is flawed: I see Eaglesfan as a sensible target on night 1. He's played a lot of these and obviously has insight into how people think and act. I would rate him as one of better players. Most people tend to overlook him a little, but he's good. No one dies on night 2. So it's not really shocking that all four should be alive.

Barkeep and Hoops are duking it out, so why bother? Attention will be on them without any help. That leaves AE as an excellent target. Well known, plays in a way that's hard to read, uses defensive tactics. So the list goes on. He's a perfect fall-guy.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

KWhit · 03-05-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Do whatever you'd like, kwhit. You're still a jerk to me.

Uhhh, okay.

Maybe you're just playing the Blade "piss people off" tactic. Or maybe you're just having a bd day. Whatever the case, calling people names on a messageboard is pretty lame.

tanglewood · 03-05-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm not being a defeatist. I'm just choose a way to play the game others have in the past.

Telling someone they are useless is not a good way to win friends and influence people.

Well voting for yourself when a small bandwagon froms up on you, bu you still aren't even in the lvote lead yet, and complaining along the lines of 'well I might as well show you when I'm dead' seems pretty defeatist to me...

Earlier you said you have no passion for this game because you have no role. I don't mean to offend, but why did you apply to this game if you were just going to not care if you got, by far the most likely possibility, a plain Jedi role? That just seems incinsere to me more than anything else.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

Well voting for yourself when a small bandwagon froms up on you, bu you still aren't even in the lvote lead yet, and complaining along the lines of 'well I might as well show you when I'm dead' seems pretty defeatist to me...

Earlier you said you have no passion for this game because you have no role. I don't mean to offend, but why did you apply to this game if you were just going to not care if you got, by far the most likely possibility, a plain Jedi role? That just seems incinsere to me more than anything else.

You don't get it.

I'm voting myself, not as a defeatist, but because more than one person has said the group would have more to gain from my death than from dubb's.

That, and certain people here are acting like jerks.

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

The way I read it is random selection from a small group. Summarizing why I think Dubb's argument is flawed: I see Eaglesfan as a sensible target on night 1. He's played a lot of these and obviously has insight into how people think and act. I would rate him as one of better players. Most people tend to overlook him a little, but he's good. No one dies on night 2. So it's not really shocking that all four should be alive.

Barkeep and Hoops are duking it out, so why bother? Attention will be on them without any help. That leaves AE as an excellent target. Well known, plays in a way that's hard to read, uses defensive tactics. So the list goes on. He's a perfect fall-guy.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

I think Eagle was on for last night because there was no heat on him and he had not put anything out there that may pit him against anyone. As far as last nigh, do you think one of the four (AE, Dubb, Hoops, Barkeep) was targeted for a Sith attack?

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:23 PM

Desnudo I love your analysis except why wouldn't dubb simply pile onto me or hoops if he's a wolf? Why put himself out there?

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I think Eagle was on for last night because there was no heat on him and he had not put anything out there that may pit him against anyone. As far as last nigh, do you think one of the four (AE, Dubb, Hoops, Barkeep) was targeted for a Sith attack?

If I was, I have no knowledge of it.

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:25 PM

I also have no knowledge of the attack last night beyond what has been posted here.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:25 PM

I'd really like someone else to vote for me to seal the deal. Then I could trade my vote out to kwhit.

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Desnudo I love your analysis except why wouldn't dubb simply pile onto me or hoops if he's a wolf? Why put himself out there?

Dubb always puts himself out there when he is a wolf!

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:27 PM

Ardent if you are the Seer, you need to tell us.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:27 PM

Interesting. A guest is here. Could that be, I don't know...DUBB?

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Dubb always puts himself out there when he is a wolf!

Point well taken

.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Ardent if you are the Seer, you need to tell us.

I've said it about 8 times.

I am a plain jedi.

I looked into the Force for something to distinguish myself, and couldn't find anything. I'm an ordinary jedi. That's all. For 2 more minutes.

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

Unvote Ardent

Vote Dubb

Explanation forth coming shortly.

hoopsguy · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

If I was a target last night I have no knowledge of it. I would have posted on it, if not immediately then early enough for people to act on that information.

So here is what we know so far:
Eaglesfan/Alan T - force bond, Eagles definite Jedi
Lathum - special Jedi
Superman=#54 - ordinary Jedi (don't think this is a big assumption)
??? - bodyguard or blessed

I would assume that there is a seer out there.

I've thought to myself that Ardent might be a Duke with the way he was playing this - it appears we will see if that is the case in a couple of minutes.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

I can tell you this, if I were a wolf, and the heat was on ME, I'd be offline right now.

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

Actually nm. If Ardent's going to insist to the last that he's plain then my theory doesn't work.

Unvote Dubb
Vote Ardent

mckerney · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

unvote ardent
vote dubb

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Unvote Ardent

Vote Dubb

Explanation forth coming shortly.

GARRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE MAKING ME MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Desnudo · 03-05-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Desnudo I love your analysis except why wouldn't dubb simply pile onto me or hoops if he's a wolf? Why put himself out there?

Well one answer is obvious, I think. The other on is that you are both Jedi. Where do you think the lens will turn next if AE turns out to be a Jedi? I can see how this will play out already. AE is a jedi and the next one to go is hoops or barkeep depending on who has the more persuasive argument. If you are both Jedi, then you both end up dead in that scenario.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually nm. If Ardent's going to insist to the last that he's plain then my theory doesn't work.

Unvote Dubb
Vote Ardent

Thank you.

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I've said it about 8 times.

I am a plain jedi.

I looked into the Force for something to distinguish myself, and couldn't find anything. I'm an ordinary jedi. That's all. For 2 more minutes.

Maybe he is a Jedi that knows he is weak of mind and wants to get wacked so he does not get turned later??

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

unvote ardent
vote dubb

WHAT????????????

Barkeep49 · 03-05-2006, 08:31 PM

My idea was that Ardent was the bodyguard and dubb was a wolf. Dubb attacked ardent and ardent knew this, as did dubb. Ardent didn't want to paint himself as a target, but dubb was afraid enough of him that it was worth going on the offensive.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Maybe he is a Jedi that knows he is weak of mind and wants to get wacked so he does not get turned later??

If I was, I would certainly tell you so.

Grammaticus · 03-05-2006, 08:31 PM

WTF just happened??

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

My idea was that Ardent was the bodyguard and dubb was a wolf. Dubb attacked ardent and ardent knew this, as did dubb. Ardent didn't want to paint himself as a target, but dubb was afraid enough of him that it was worth going on the offensive.

Sorry, that's not the case.

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

WTF just happened??

I have no idea. Am I lynched or what?

Poli · 03-05-2006, 08:32 PM

Hey look, it's DUBB and the guest is gone.

hoopsguy · 03-05-2006, 08:32 PM

This is crazy. And you guys are not making it easy to keep up with votes

tanglewood · 03-05-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

unvote ardent
vote dubb

Explaination forcoming?

03-05-2006, 08:06 PM	#651
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	To help the rest of the jedi. More than one person has stated my death would benefit the jedi. So be it. If I'm of more benefit dead than alive, I can hold my head high and sleep at night. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:14 PM	#657
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'd prefer at least one more vote in my direction so that no one feels I'll do a late switch. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:16 PM	#659
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	My honest assessment is you're being a jerk. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:17 PM	#661
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	By the way, I will be retiring from Werewolf games after this game. It's been a great run. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:17 PM	#665
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Do whatever you'd like, kwhit. You're still a jerk to me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:16 PM	#660
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes updated through Post #656 Ardent - Dubb (532), Hoops (550), mckerney (558), Barkeep (561), KWhit (611), Tanglewood (620), Ardent (621), Taz (653) Dubb - Schmidty (553), Sack (556), Jeeber (578), Desnudo (583), Gram (586), Qwik (588), SnDvls (610) Qwikshot - Cartman (594) Not Voted: King, Penny, StKelly

03-05-2006, 08:17 PM	#662
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Cartman are you locked on to Qwik?

03-05-2006, 08:23 PM	#674
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Desnudo I love your analysis except why wouldn't dubb simply pile onto me or hoops if he's a wolf? Why put himself out there?

03-05-2006, 08:25 PM	#676
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I also have no knowledge of the attack last night beyond what has been posted here.

03-05-2006, 08:25 PM	#677
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'd really like someone else to vote for me to seal the deal. Then I could trade my vote out to kwhit. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:27 PM	#679
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Ardent if you are the Seer, you need to tell us.

03-05-2006, 08:27 PM	#680
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Interesting. A guest is here. Could that be, I don't know...DUBB? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:29 PM	#683
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Unvote Ardent Vote Dubb Explanation forth coming shortly.

03-05-2006, 08:29 PM	#684
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If I was a target last night I have no knowledge of it. I would have posted on it, if not immediately then early enough for people to act on that information. So here is what we know so far: Eaglesfan/Alan T - force bond, Eagles definite Jedi Lathum - special Jedi Superman=#54 - ordinary Jedi (don't think this is a big assumption) ??? - bodyguard or blessed I would assume that there is a seer out there. I've thought to myself that Ardent might be a Duke with the way he was playing this - it appears we will see if that is the case in a couple of minutes.

03-05-2006, 08:29 PM	#685
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I can tell you this, if I were a wolf, and the heat was on ME, I'd be offline right now. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:29 PM	#686
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Actually nm. If Ardent's going to insist to the last that he's plain then my theory doesn't work. Unvote Dubb Vote Ardent

03-05-2006, 08:29 PM	#687
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	unvote ardent vote dubb

03-05-2006, 08:31 PM	#693
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	My idea was that Ardent was the bodyguard and dubb was a wolf. Dubb attacked ardent and ardent knew this, as did dubb. Ardent didn't want to paint himself as a target, but dubb was afraid enough of him that it was worth going on the offensive.

03-05-2006, 08:31 PM	#695
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	WTF just happened??

03-05-2006, 08:32 PM	#698
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hey look, it's DUBB and the guest is gone. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-05-2006, 08:32 PM	#699
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	This is crazy. And you guys are not making it easy to keep up with votes

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