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Old 01-13-2007, 02:56 PM   #1
Honolulu Blue
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Question Expansion list challenge (Baseball Mogul 07)

I've been fooling around with Baseball Mogul for the past 10 days, taking the Florida Marlins right after the expansion & amateur drafts (the most fun of the game's expansion options, IMO). It's five years later, and I've built up the usual gang of idiots into a pretty good team. We finished 80-82 - fourth in a very tough NL East (the Mets won the Championship and 112 games, Philly was the wild card and won 100 games, and Atlanta won 93). This is with fictional rosters.

Why I'm writing is to see if anyone would like to put on their GM caps and help me figure out a 15-man protected list for the upcoming expansion draft. Arizona and Tampa Bay are coming into the league, on schedule. I'll give you this year's stats and the end of season ratings. The stats should be self-explanatory, if a little terse (thanks, Clay). I'll explain the ratings when I get there:

Code:
1997 Batting Team G AVG AB H 2B 3B HR BB K SB CS R RBI SLG OBP Arguenal, Alberto FLA 144 .316 532 168 37 1 36 66 105 0 1 86 135 .592 .393 Beardsley, Tom FLA 2 .000 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Bustos, Leon FLA 33 .203 64 13 2 0 2 5 14 0 1 11 6 .328 .271 Clifford, Zack FLA 87 .210 143 30 7 0 11 9 41 0 0 25 30 .490 .260 Coleman, Scott FLA 73 .278 151 42 13 1 6 19 23 0 0 22 19 .497 .360 Connor, Mathew FLA 113 .261 218 57 14 0 7 21 39 4 0 34 28 .422 .335 Cordner, Mark FLA 88 .282 291 82 15 4 6 27 56 6 0 50 28 .423 .347 Cornier, Teddy FLA 33 .117 77 9 1 0 0 2 29 0 0 1 5 .130 .139 Davalos, Manny FLA 145 .254 476 121 33 4 20 23 80 2 0 56 77 .466 .287 Dimitya, Ian FLA 147 .363 614 223 35 2 18 62 64 1 1 114 87 .515 .421 Dring, Tony FLA 35 .139 72 10 1 0 0 2 35 0 0 6 2 .153 .160 Duncan, Zack FLA 12 .083 24 2 0 0 0 0 14 0 0 2 1 .083 .083 Escofet, Norberto FLA 3 .000 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 .000 .200 Evans, James FLA 1 .000 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Hughes, Cam FLA 12 .120 25 3 0 0 0 0 14 0 0 0 1 .120 .120 Ishikawa, Ichiro FLA 6 .304 23 7 2 2 0 1 3 0 0 2 2 .565 .333 Kling, Jeff FLA 151 .360 556 200 45 0 26 75 96 2 2 104 86 .581 .437 Larking, Kenny FLA 113 .245 372 91 18 1 17 20 43 0 0 48 44 .435 .289 Luzanilla, Carlos FLA 1 1.000 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.000 1.000 Marín, Eduardo FLA 130 .258 442 114 20 1 44 71 96 0 0 89 116 .606 .364 McInturff, Evan FLA 156 .326 650 212 54 0 7 68 75 8 2 99 69 .442 .387 Nelson, Neal FLA 0 .000 6 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Ouslan, Francisco FLA 14 .146 41 6 2 0 1 0 16 0 0 2 3 .268 .143 Pacino, Krey FLA 131 .301 375 113 33 2 8 47 67 9 1 62 54 .464 .377 Schiff, Gil FLA 3 .000 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Senzaki, Sukemasa FLA 28 .158 57 9 0 0 0 2 20 0 0 3 3 .158 .186 Sheedy, Simon FLA 1 .000 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .500 Shrum, Seth FLA 31 .148 61 9 0 0 0 4 24 0 0 1 1 .148 .200 Thomas, Morten FLA 122 .263 372 98 14 1 17 16 65 3 0 42 51 .444 .296 Tofield, Zachary FLA 2 .000 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Umbleby, Reagan FLA 1 .000 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 Vuelvas, Eddie FLA 1 .000 6 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 West, Brad FLA 14 .235 17 4 0 0 0 1 6 0 0 0 1 .235 .316 Whyte, Matt FLA 105 .252 135 34 8 1 4 18 35 0 1 25 15 .415 .353 Wilmoth, Adrian FLA 1 .500 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500

Code:
1997 Pitching Team IP ERA G GS W L SV K BB R/9 Beardsley, Tom FLA 13.0 11.08 5 2 0 1 0 8 4 20.08 Cornier, Teddy FLA 206.1 4.41 36 33 11 11 1 157 59 12.30 Dring, Tony FLA 204.2 4.13 37 35 11 11 0 187 59 11.87 Duncan, Zack FLA 68.0 3.71 13 12 6 3 0 44 12 11.25 Escofet, Norberto FLA 67.2 8.11 41 3 1 2 1 50 26 16.49 Evans, James FLA 91.2 6.28 74 1 9 10 2 43 23 13.16 Hughes, Cam FLA 72.0 6.00 16 12 3 3 0 58 27 14.88 Mendez, Carlos FLA 26.1 10.59 20 0 0 1 1 19 13 17.77 Nelson, Neal FLA 114.2 5.02 75 0 10 4 4 79 25 12.32 Senzaki, Sukemasa FLA 163.2 4.40 28 28 10 8 0 135 33 11.27 Sheedy, Simon FLA 67.2 7.18 52 1 6 2 1 46 37 17.16 Shrum, Seth FLA 180.1 5.64 31 31 7 11 0 139 46 12.88 Tofield, Zachary FLA 66.0 5.73 65 2 2 8 29 97 16 12.41 Umbleby, Reagan FLA 14.1 10.67 11 1 0 3 0 8 7 18.84 Vuelvas, Eddie FLA 78.2 7.55 59 1 4 4 1 41 40 17.16


And now for the ratings. Name, position, age, B & T, and salary are self-explanatory. As for the rest:

Yrs - years left on contract, including '97. "Arb '97" means that they will be going to arbitration immediately before the expansion draft.
Ovr - overall rating. 75+ is major league quality; 95+ is an All-Star/MVP contender
Con - contact. Affects batting average (mostly)
Pow - power. Affects extra base hits.
Spd - speed. Affects stolen bases and such things.
Eye - eye. Affects walks & strikeouts.
End - endurance. Starters usually have ratings of 60+, with workhorses near 90. Relievers are usually under 30.
Ctr - control. Affects walks allowed.
Pwr - power. Affects strikeouts.
Mov - movement. Affects hits allowed.

With that in mind, let's take a look at what my scouts think of these guys:

Code:
Player Name Pos Age B T Salary Yrs Ovr Con Pow Spd Eye Larking, Kenny C 24 R R $950,000 5 72 70 71 59 70 Connor, Mathew C 21 R R $327,000 Arb '99 76 72 75 74 74 West, Brad C 23 R R $26,000 Arb '00 75 71 74 66 67 Luzanilla, Carlos C 25 R R $18,000 Arb '99 68 67 70 54 73 Coleman, Scott 1B 24 S L $560,000 Arb '97 76 81 72 62 83 Kling, Jeff 1B 25 R R $5,400,000 4 81 94 73 64 83 Diaz, Etienne 1B 21 L L $18,000 Arb '00 71 75 68 70 86 McInturff, Evan 2B 23 R R $327,000 Arb '99 82 86 69 60 78 Dimitya, Ian 2B 23 R R $5,600,000 4 96 99 75 66 89 Arguenal, Alberto 3B 27 R R $5,550,000 4 86 84 89 53 78 Whyte, Matt 3B 21 S R $327,000 Arb '99 75 70 73 65 81 Wilmoth, Adrian 3B 25 L R $26,000 Arb '00 60 66 64 60 72 Pensomn, Raymond 3B 22 R R $13,000 Arb '00 55 67 60 66 69 Clifford, Zack SS 27 R R $1,150,000 3 75 70 75 72 69 Bustos, Leon LF 23 L L $26,000 Arb '00 71 69 74 88 76 Cinton, Jeff LF 23 R R $18,000 Arb '00 62 63 67 57 76 MacFarlane, Phil LF 22 R R $18,000 Arb '00 62 64 69 69 69 Denson, Dave LF 22 R R $13,000 Arb '00 61 62 66 54 71 Pacino, Krey CF 23 L L $327,000 Arb '98 86 89 70 71 85 Cordner, Mark CF 23 L L $327,000 Arb '97 86 82 71 78 86 Ishikawa, Ichiro CF 23 R R $26,000 Arb '00 74 70 71 75 72 Leitner, Greg CF 21 R R $18,000 Arb '00 74 71 69 70 64 Dixon, Tom CF 21 S R $10,000 Arb '00 45 58 56 81 64 Thomas, Morten RF 24 S R $2,350,000 4 75 75 75 74 67 Marín, Eduardo RF 25 R R $5,550,000 4 91 77 96 66 90 Schiff, Gil RF 24 R R $327,000 Arb '00 72 67 77 63 71 Ouslan, Francisco RF 24 R R $26,000 Arb '00 72 63 76 61 62 Daniels, Dusty RF 23 R R $18,000 Arb '00 62 58 70 63 66 Zahler, Earl RF 24 L L $18,000 Arb '00 60 61 67 61 69 Davalos, Manny RF 34 L L $2,350,000 3 69 73 70 65 66 Player Name Pos Age B T Salary Yrs Ovr End Ctr Pwr Mov Shrum, Seth SP 23 L L $327,000 Arb '98 78 84 81 77 76 Dring, Tony SP 26 R R $5,400,000 5 86 68 84 83 94 Cornier, Teddy SP 23 L L $4,250,000 5 88 81 90 81 82 Senzaki, Sukemasa SP 26 R R $4,750,000 4 88 78 89 81 93 Duncan, Zack SP 26 R R $2,900,000 5 90 60 93 76 95 Hughes, Cam SP 25 R R $360,000 Arb '99 70 82 77 84 60 Beardsley, Tom SP 25 R R $26,000 Arb '00 74 64 69 69 84 Hansen, Stu SP 21 L L $13,000 Arb '00 70 78 81 63 69 Williamson, Doug SP 20 R R $13,000 Arb '00 63 82 72 67 62 Tofield, Zachary RP 25 L L $2,900,000 4 88 23 82 100 77 Nelson, Neal RP 31 R R $1,000,000 2 84 24 89 75 93 Evans, James RP 22 R R $327,000 Arb '98 77 22 91 67 93 Sheedy, Simon RP 24 R R $327,000 Arb '00 69 22 73 65 73 Vuelvas, Eddie RP 24 L L $327,000 Arb '99 70 22 73 65 84 Mendez, Carlos RP 24 R R $26,000 Arb '00 75 23 78 86 78 Erikson, Kurt RP 30 R R $400,000 1 66 26 75 74 71 Umbleby, Reagan RP 32 R R $950,000 1 67 25 70 84 68 McKinley, Kyle RP 22 L L $18,000 Arb '00 68 25 88 65 76 Finley, Nick RP 21 R R $13,000 Arb '00 62 26 70 67 59 Escofet, Norberto RP 24 R R $26,000 Arb '99 72 42 72 72 83

Some additional information for your consumption:

* The name of this league is the "Jose Canseco Memorial League". Double and home run totals were pumped up from the very start. Make a note.
* The expansion AI loves young, cheap players with decent current ratings and high potential ratings. I've turned peak ratings off (sorry), so you won't know that, but keep the rest in mind.
* Larking, Connor, and West all figure to compete for the starting catching job next year, if they're still around. Luzanilla is a notch behind them.
* "Static" Kling was an All-Star last year. Coleman would have to be re-signed if we want to keep him. Diaz is almost ready for bigger things.
* "Pleased" Dimitya is the starting 2B with McInturff holding down SS. Stats and ratings should speak for themselves.
* "Piano Legs" Arguenal has a neat story behind him. Three years ago I switched his position from 1B to 3B. He's been pretty bad at the hot corner, though somewhat better now than when I first did it. But he can hit. He's blasted 25+ doubles and homers every year, and he's been with me from the start.
* IMO there's little to choose from between Cordner & Pacino. Cordner wants $3.6 million a year to stick around; Pacino is signed for the minimum through next year.
* Marin's numbers are actually DOWN from the last two, though he played a bit more this year. He's had serious injuries the last three years. I blame the 'roids. They're legal in this league, y'know.
* "Bling Bling" Dring was our other All-Star last season. Not his fault he only went 11-11; the league ERA was 5.37.
* Senzaki was taken in the expansion draft. This was a career high in wins - ten. Lots of no decisions and some minor injuries through the years.

Whew! Sorry this was all so long, but I figured you needed at least this much data. Remember, I can only protect 15 of these guys. Thanks for your help!

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Old 01-14-2007, 06:14 AM   #3
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I know this isn't what you were looking for, but does the 2007 version allow you to take control of the expansion team for the expansion draft?

No. Maybe next year...
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:43 PM   #4
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I ran the expansion draft and protected the following players:

Connor, Kling, Diaz, Dimitya, Arguenal, McInturff
Cordner, Pacino, Marin, Schiff
Dring, Senzaki, Cornier, Duncan, Nelson

This agreed with the game's recommendations, except for three: They didn't protect Diaz, Schiff, or Nelson. Let's see who they would have protected:

"In the first round of the expansion draft, Tampa Bay picks... Zachary Tofield, pitcher, Florida Marlins"

"In the eighth round of the expansion draft, Tampa Bay picks... Greg Leitner, outfielder, Florida Marlins"

"In the seventeenth round of the expanison draft, Tampa Bay picks... James Evans, pitcher, Florida Marlins"

Uncanny, huh? Tofield and Evans I ended up missing a little because we've been a reliever or two short the past couple of seasons. Leitner was just one of many talented outfielders, and not the most talented one of the bunch.

The team improved to 82-80 in '98 despite our losses, and to 95-67 in '99, earning our first playoff appearance - a wild card berth. Yeah yeah, I really should write a dynasty, but I don't have time.
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:50 PM   #5
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Reading this has me hankering to buy BBM again. Am I just setting myself up here?
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:17 PM   #6
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Protecting players for an expansion draft would be so much fun in FOF.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:23 AM   #7
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Reading this has me hankering to buy BBM again. Am I just setting myself up here?

I think it's a cool game with just the right mix of simplicity and complexity (for me). I was surprised at how much it improved since I dropped it for OOTP sometime early this millennium. That said, you probably shouldn't buy it now:

1) BM '06 is free and available for download
2) The BM '07 demo is free
3) BM '08 is scheduled to be out around April 1 and it should be even better than this one.

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Protecting players for an expansion draft would be so much fun in FOF.

I agree, but the expansion draft in previous versions of FOF worked the opposite way - you set a list of five players that are EXPOSED to the draft, and the expansion teams can only pick from those players on each team's list.
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