WW CXXVI: Wolves in Asgard - Game Over (Result in Post 2538)

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Racer

I've been guessing 5 myself. Anyone else want to chime in?

5 has been the assumption I'd been working with all game, though I hadn't been considering conversion.

[hoopsguy]

I would like to see the people voting for me, outside of Racer (who has already done so) post why I'm the best candidate in their mind.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The comment about getting lynched was in response to BK saying he wasn't sure he would be able to drum up the votes to do it. If I'm around in the thread, I'm usually pretty persuasive about not getting lynched. You can count on one hand, and still have fingers left over, the number of times that it has happened.

Right now I'm more or less keeping my daughter up later so I can try and avoid being lynched. Not exactly parent-of-the-year work on my part ... it has no bearing on me being villager/wolf, but it does indicate that I do try to fight hard for the village, especially when they are on the verge of putting me out to pasture prematurely.

I find this awesome.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I would like to see the people voting for me, outside of Racer (who has already done so) post why I'm the best candidate in their mind.

Well it's your or ntn right now.. and even you said you didn't want to vote for ntn.

[Zinto]

I would prefer Heinz Hoops but no one seemed to agree with me so that left me with either you or ntn. I ended up going against ntn since unless he is a wolf I feel like we gain no information from him.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, but you didn't say why you didn't want to vote NTN Telle.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I would prefer Heinz Hoops but no one seemed to agree with me so that left me with either you or ntn. I ended up going against ntn since unless he is a wolf I feel like we gain no information from him.

And what info are you gaining from me as a villager? I want to make sure you understand your own argument.

[Telle]

I'm willing to give ntn one more day to either show up or get replaced. If neither happens tomorrow, he's lynched.

[MrBug708]

Nice HG. I just explained what werewolf was to my girlfriend.

She didn't understand and asked if it was a game vs real people

*sigh*

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'm willing to give ntn one more day to either show up or get replaced. If neither happens tomorrow, he's lynched.

That sounds dangerously like wolf-setting-the-table logic, knowing full well I'm a villager.

Also sounds like logic I didn't immediately apply to you after the Thomkal/Autumn/Telle vote, for what it is worth.

[Telle]

Well give me a more viable candidate, hoopsguy. And convince enough of us to switch. You've got 8 minutes, btw.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

And what info are you gaining from me as a villager? I want to make sure you understand your own argument.

Really it is just a toss up. I have to go back and look but I am willing to guarantee we gain more from you being lynched then NTN. You both are good candidates since you are in the five people who have to be Loki

[Zinto]

I could be convinced to move to any of the other four people that could be Loki at this point. Racer made the best case for one of us and I voted along with it.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Really it is just a toss up. I have to go back and look but I am willing to guarantee we gain more from you being lynched then NTN. You both are good candidates since you are in the five people who have to be Loki

Based on Racer's assumption of vote manipulation instead of wolf duke power ... again, want to make sure people understand the arguments you are making.

You'll be down to four people for that argument tomorrow and no closer to Loki if this vote stays here.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I could be convinced to move to any of the other four people that could be Loki at this point. Racer made the best case for one of us and I voted along with it.

Yes, but I trust Racer a fair amount more than I trust you. So I wanted to see how you would defend your vote. To your credit, you did reply in the thread rather than ignoring the question.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well give me a more viable candidate, hoopsguy. And convince enough of us to switch. You've got 8 minutes, btw.

I think mau's or mckerny's reveal has to be BS. We know too many roled villagers as it stands.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Based on Racer's assumption of vote manipulation instead of wolf duke power ... again, want to make sure people understand the arguments you are making.

You'll be down to four people for that argument tomorrow and no closer to Loki if this vote stays here.

Three if McKerney doesn't have his scan in for you.

[hoopsguy]

The fact that the Lathum vote got zero traction today disturbs me as well. I hope that if I'm gone people don't let him keep sliding through days with minimal posting.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think mau's or mckerny's reveal has to be BS. We know too many roled villagers as it stands.

I'd think one is bull.. not both. So we give mauboy tonight to prove he is who he says he is. Then go from there tomorrow.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Racer

Three if McKerney doesn't have his scan in for you.

Maybe even two if mauboy kills one of them. And I hope that one of the "roled" players have better luck than the masses are going to have today, barring a sudden vote change.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'd think one is bull.. not both. So we give mauboy tonight to prove he is who he says he is. Then go from there tomorrow.

But doesn't mau's "proof" involve killing. If he kills a wolf I agree, he's good and clear. But if he's lying and kills a villager how's that different than what a wolf does?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'd think one is bull.. not both. So we give mauboy tonight to prove he is who he says he is. Then go from there tomorrow.

Also that augers for joining me on mckerney over mau.

[Racer]

By the way, mckerney, if you have a scan in for Hoops, you have three minutes to get a conditional scan in for someone else.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'd think one is bull.. not both. So we give mauboy tonight to prove he is who he says he is. Then go from there tomorrow.

Or NTN - at least that was the story two minutes ago.

Getting worse and worse vibes from Telle here. Really wish I had been around Friday night to be in thread with her when she was the one in the line of fire. I've made assumptions about her based on reading the posts after the fact, but right now I feel like they were woefully wrong.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

But doesn't mau's "proof" involve killing. If he kills a wolf I agree, he's good and clear. But if he's lying and kills a villager how's that different than what a wolf does?

We cross our fingers that the write-up makes it's clear it's either mau or the character he claimed that did the killing.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Or NTN - at least that was the story two minutes ago.

Getting worse and worse vibes from Telle here. Really wish I had been around Friday night to be in thread with her when she was the one in the line of fire. I've made assumptions about her based on reading the posts after the fact, but right now I feel like they were woefully wrong.

Wow.. somebody's getting desperate.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Telle

Wow.. somebody's getting desperate.

Hopefully I have some ability to impact the game from Valhalla.

[mckerney]

Vote Barkeep

Not sold on hoops being a wolf, but don't want to create a tie at this point.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Vote Barkeep

Not sold on hoops being a wolf, but don't want to create a tie at this point.

Don't want to create a tie so I'll vote for someone I know to be less likely to be a wolf than others.

[JAG]

Day 6 voting as of post 2278:

hoopsguy 4 - Racer (2174), Zinto (2189), MrBug708 (2193), Telle (2249)
ntndeacon 3 - jeheinz72 (2135), mauboy1 (2220), hoopsguy (2241)
Barkeep49 2 - EagleFan (2209), mckerney (2278)
mckerney 1 - Barkeep49 (2213)
Telle 1 - Narcizo (2113)

[hoopsguy]

For the record, I won't self-vote at the end like Autumn did. I don't think you should ever do that as a villager - fight until the end, try to give the group a chance to do the right thing. Even if it is pretty clear no one seems to think I'm telling the truth here.

[MrBug708]

And that gives us...?

[hoopsguy]

Deadline.

[CrimsonFox]

_________________ <----- This line is dead.

[hoopsguy]

I don't have strong feeling on the two reveals over the past 24 hours, but don't let EF remain out there unchecked forever. And string up Telle and Lathum. Good luck.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Don't want to create a tie so I'll vote for someone I know to be less likely to be a wolf than others.

I don't see it as less likely. I could be completely wrong, but I think hoops might be the least likely. Hoping to be wrong though.

[JAG]

Final day 6 voting:

hoopsguy 4 - Racer (2174), Zinto (2189), MrBug708 (2193), Telle (2249)
ntndeacon 3 - jeheinz72 (2135), mauboy1 (2220), hoopsguy (2241)
Barkeep49 2 - EagleFan (2209), mckerney (2278)
mckerney 1 - Barkeep49 (2213)
Telle 1 - Narcizo (2113)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by mckerney

I don't see it as less likely. I could be completely wrong, but I think hoops might be the least likely. Hoping to be wrong though.

Mathematically me being a wolf, if you're telling the truth, is less likely as I'm guaranteed not to be Loki.

[JAG]

Tensions continue to rise after the death of another brave warrior the previous day. After a heartfelt discussion, the decision is made: ntndeacon is the traitor to Asgard. He is led to the block and silently awaits his fate. As the axe crashes down, his lifeblood flows and his illusions shimmers. In his place, you see ntndeacon the Silent, a warrior who never once uttered a battle shout.

ntndeacon was a vanilla Norse Berserker.

Processing actions, will be back with the remainder of the day in a little while.

[Telle]

Well that was unexpected. hoops.. you a duke??

[Racer]

Ugh, are you friggen kidding me.

[mckerney]

Wha?

[hoopsguy]

Well color me very, very surprised at this. I had resolved that this was a good thing and would allow me to focus on work tomorrow without being distracted by this game. As it stands, barring a duke coming out to claim his decision I'm sure I'll be fingered as a vote manipulator when I'm just as much a vanilla villager as NTN was.

[Barkeep49]

Only person to be involved in both vote shenigans in heinz though in shenanigan 1 he was on Danny not EF.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well that was unexpected. hoops.. you a duke??

Only werewolf role I've never gotten.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Only person to be involved in both vote shenigans in heinz though in shenanigan 1 he was on Danny not EF.

As a voter obviously. This does not account for any sort of Duking like ability.

[MrBug708]

Whoa...

Might be for the best though

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Only person to be involved in both vote shenigans in heinz though in shenanigan 1 he was on Danny not EF.

Yeah but he hasn't been here since mid-afternoon. No way he saw the hoops votes coming out of nowhere tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Only person to be involved in both vote shenigans in heinz though in shenanigan 1 he was on Danny not EF.

I was on EF day one and NTN today.
I've got no power to move votes, but it sure looks like I was part of "shenigans"

[MrBug708]

I can buy that a wolf is possibly setting up Hoops to take the fall the next day. If he is a villager, that's two days worth of us killing villagers.

I can also see Hoops knowing this and using this for his advantage. No offense to Racer, but I wish we had Hoops cleared on our side