Werewolf XVI: Time Traveler (MAFIA WIN) - Page 4

Mr. Wednesday · 10-11-2005, 02:05 PM

As a multiple-time former bad guy, I can assure you that I never thought it was a good idea to not vote at all. What was ideal was when everything was spread out, or there was a run-off between two good guys. It's basically impossible to get anything useful out of a vote when we don't know what the result of the vote was, or what any of the players involved were.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 02:13 PM

Is there really any way to find out other then the investigator??...or are we just going off on nothing here?? I mean, in a game like this, the investigator hitting is huge since we can go back in time and kill bad guys or save good guys

Poli · 10-11-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

lol, ardent called me out and voted me because of spawn game when i was very outward and got him killed...he ignore listed me for a bit...hes just carrying that over here...

Don't flatter yourself.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Don't flatter yourself.

im playing a game and reasoning..your dead...i dont see what you dont get about be quiet when your dead...its in the rules

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

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Copycat.

Poli · 10-11-2005, 03:41 PM

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

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SnDvls, he's copying me! Make him stop, or I'm going to pout!!!

Poli · 10-11-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

SnDvls, he's copying me! Make him stop, or I'm going to pout!!!

...!

pennywisesb · 10-11-2005, 04:41 PM

Bump for lack of participation. Do we have an ETA on when the night actions will be processed? I think once they happen we might have alittle more evidence to weigh in with when making our day two votes.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Bump for lack of participation. Do we have an ETA on when the night actions will be processed? I think once they happen we might have alittle more evidence to weigh in with when making our day two votes.

i think sun said 9 pacific was the deadline, but when they will be processed i dont know

Mr. Wednesday · 10-11-2005, 04:45 PM

Yeah, we might want to avoid having the night run through the middle of the day (when everyone typically participates) the next time.

SnDvls · 10-11-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

i think sun said 9 pacific was the deadline, but when they will be processed i dont know

waiting on night actions still. Once I have them we can move on, or the time of 9 PM Pacific. if it goes to the later I won't have night results up until 8 AM-ish tomorrow

SnDvls · 10-11-2005, 04:59 PM

got 'em all now give me a moment to process.

Poli · 10-11-2005, 05:02 PM

SnDvls · 10-11-2005, 05:09 PM

Night 1

You all go to bed hoping for a peaceful night's sleep, but everyone knows that isn't possible with the mafia running around. You hear the gun shots in the distance and you know that it can't be good. In the morning you all, well almost all of you, wake up. Someone is missing. You look around and begin to realize that Barkeep49 is not around. A quick search of the woods finds his body lying with two shots in the head. This is the work of the mafia.

Day 2 has begun

(post #37 updated)

Poli · 10-11-2005, 05:10 PM

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

Day 1

Everyone gathers in the town square and no one is quite sure who will get strung up today. As wary glances shoot back and forth accusations begin to fly as to who is mafia. Five of you quickly grab ardent enthusiast and begin to question him. ardent calls out Blade saying he is the one to go after, but to no avail as the village has agreed to go with the person having the most votes. ardent enthusiast is strung up by the big oak tree for all to see. He struggles for a bit, but is then left lifeless hanging there. You all hope you got one of the mafia tonight and made the right choice.

(in no particular order)

ardent enthusiast (5) – Raiders Army, pennywisesb, digamma, Mr. Wednesday, Blade6119
kingfc22 (1) – ntndeacon
Blade6119 (1) – ardent enthusiast
Barkeep49 (1) – kingfc22
No Votes - Passacagila, Barkeep49, RealDeal

Please send in night actions by 6 PM Pacific

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

Night 1

You all go to bed hoping for a peaceful night's sleep, but everyone knows that isn't possible with the mafia running around. You hear the gun shots in the distance and you know that it can't be good. In the morning you all, well almost all of you, wake up. Someone is missing. You look around and begin to realize that Barkeep49 is not around. A quick search of the woods finds his body lying with two shots in the head. This is the work of the mafia.

Day 2 has begun

(post #37 updated)

So that clears king in my mind, as it would take a retarded mafia to kill the guy only you voted for...ntdeacon is at least a little suspicious by this becuase king becomes my only trusted villager...as for others everyone else is on my radar

pennywisesb · 10-11-2005, 05:26 PM

That sucks Barkeep. You were one of the few who was actively participating. Hopefully we will be able to re-write time and bring you back.

As far as suspicion....I'm still not sure yet. I don't want to jump the gun on Deacon, because I think night one voting was pretty random. I think the mafia would probably try to spread their votes out and not be stupid enough to all vote for the same person. I'm guessing that one probably voted for AE and the other two either voted for different peope or maybe one didn't vote at all. I'm still wondering where RD is.

digamma · 10-11-2005, 05:55 PM

Losing Barkeep sucks. RD not being around is disappointing.

I'm not sure where we go from here either.

Should we try to focus on the AE voters, figuring we have at least one mafia in there?

Passacaglia · 10-11-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Losing Barkeep sucks. RD not being around is disappointing.

I'm not sure where we go from here either.

Should we try to focus on the AE voters, figuring we have at least one mafia in there?

That makes sense to me. The problem is, what sets any of them apart from the others?

digamma · 10-11-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That makes sense to me. The problem is, what sets any of them apart from the others?

Not much, at this point (and I recognize I was one of those voters).

Unless something else breaks, it may make the most sense from a numbers game.

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:04 PM

Well, we lost Barkeep but we do have the possibility of bringing him back...and that may be a good thing if he keeps up in the thread. I think it's a no-brainer to bring him back as opposed to bringing AE back since we know for sure he's a good guy.

(On second thought, it would be a extremely good ploy for the mafia to kill one of our own and then have us save him...that would be ironic...but I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to do that)

Anyhow, we are pretty damn sure Barkeep was a good guy so that gives us some options (looking at the glass half-full). What's the deal with Real Deal?

Poli · 10-11-2005, 06:05 PM

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:05 PM

Stop taunting me!

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Well, we lost Barkeep but we do have the possibility of bringing him back...and that may be a good thing if he keeps up in the thread. I think it's a no-brainer to bring him back as opposed to bringing AE back since we know for sure he's a good guy.

(On second thought, it would be a extremely good ploy for the mafia to kill one of our own and then have us save him...that would be ironic...but I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to do that)

Anyhow, we are pretty damn sure Barkeep was a good guy so that gives us some options (looking at the glass half-full). What's the deal with Real Deal?

I like it, but cop shouldnt reveal himself when doing so...protecting barkeep on night one...real deal's absence is odd, not sure how to read that...id say we vote one of the ardent voters(yes, im one of them) as im pretty sure one is in there...or deacon due to the king factor

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM

SnDvlsA rules question: I know us deadies are allowed to vote for lynch. Are we still allowed to vote for end of day with it obviously only mattering if we're brought back?

Poli · 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM

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kingfc22 · 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM

Well it seems as if the mafia wants to set me up. There HAS to be one mafia guy in the AE list, unless of course AE was a mafia himself.

So are we actually going to discuss who we are going to vote for this time or let it be random again?

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Well it seems as if the mafia wants to set me up. There HAS to be one mafia guy in the AE list, unless of course AE was a mafia himself.

So are we actually going to discuss who we are going to vote for this time or let it be random again?

id say raiders, wednesday, or penny, as digamma seems good so far

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

id say Blade6119, wednesday, or penny, as digamma seems good so far

Aren't you missing someone there? Fixed it for you.

I know I'm a good guy, but I still wonder why Ardent voted for you. This isn't meant to throw suspicion on you, but I see you left yourself out of the above.

Poli · 10-11-2005, 06:15 PM

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Aren't you missing someone there? Fixed it for you.

I know I'm a good guy, but I still wonder why Ardent voted for you. This isn't meant to throw suspicion on you, but I see you left yourself out of the above.

I did, i mentioned the post before that i was one of the ones who voted for him...i didnt accuse myself since i know im good...i wouldnt expect anyone to put their names on their sucpect list...would you?

kingfc22 · 10-11-2005, 06:21 PM

Blade - I still think you are correct that one mafia member is part of the non-voter group as well. The mafia helped us out by getting rid of one of the 3 there. That leaves only RealDeal and Pass remaining in that group.

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:23 PM

I wouldn't put myself on my own suspect list, but I would put myself on a public suspect list...especially when the lynched voted for you...but then again, that's predicated upon AE being a good guy.

I see two possibilities for your situation:

1. AE was a bad guy, and since he voted for you you must be a good guy.
2. AE was a good guy, and since he voted for you it doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't mean anything, since if he were a good guy, then he wouldn't know for sure if you were a bad guy, right? So the chances are, you're probably a good guy. I would still consider you a suspect, but you are probably on the level, and probably more so than anyone else.

I would have preferred to hear this from you, since it would show your innocence even more, but that's my analysis of his vote for you.

digamma · 10-11-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Aren't you missing someone there? Fixed it for you.

I know I'm a good guy, but I still wonder why Ardent voted for you. This isn't meant to throw suspicion on you, but I see you left yourself out of the above.

ditto digamma.

Yeah, I think each of the five of us could make that list of the other four.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:30 PM

so since were already on day 2, we can already talk voting...im leaning pass and real deal right now...any objections?

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:33 PM

Just one, why Passacaglia? I can understand Real Deal since he hasn't showed, but why Pass?

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:35 PM

Dola, I can understand we need someone else. We need at least two options to draw them out and Pass is the only one who hasn't declared their innocence, but I'm not sure if that that is necessary.

I mean, if you were mafia, wouldn't you claim you were innocent too?

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Just one, why Passacaglia? I can understand Real Deal since he hasn't showed, but why Pass?

The 3 no votes were Barkeep, realdeal, and passacaglia...barkeep got killed by mafia, and i stated multiple times i thought one wolf voted ardent and one didnt vote(third i dont know)...ill take 1/2 over 1/5 odds for a bad guy if im right any day, and pass and real deal are the survivors of that group

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:36 PM

Gotcha. I made a mistake thinking he voted for AE.

In any case, I think we'll make a good call by knocking off one of the bad guys or at the very least someone who doesn't contribute anything.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:47 PM

What does everyone think of that plan...lets make a move and go with it...if everyone comes along we could get this day over soon if we can come to an agreement on any suspect

SnDvls · 10-11-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

SnDvlsA rules question: I know us deadies are allowed to vote for lynch. Are we still allowed to vote for end of day with it obviously only mattering if we're brought back?

yes do both...PM me lynch, but end day can be public

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:50 PM

Vote sent IAW Plan Blade.

Raiders Army · 10-11-2005, 06:51 PM

Dola, I'm out for the night as well. Biggest Loser is coming on and I need to get to bed.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 06:55 PM

im leaning to voting real, then pass, then deacon...is that clear to everyone?? I vote to end day as well and hope everyone else follows

kingfc22 · 10-11-2005, 07:41 PM

I'm going to go with Blade on this one. I like the 50% odds rather than the 20% odds.

Poli · 10-11-2005, 07:42 PM

digamma · 10-11-2005, 07:46 PM

RealDeal hasn't logged in since the game started. Do we really think a mafia person would avoid the game?

Normally, in a larger game, I don't mind getting rid of these types, but with our limited numbers, it seems every resource is valuable.

Blade6119 · 10-11-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

RealDeal hasn't logged in since the game started. Do we really think a mafia person would avoid the game?

Normally, in a larger game, I don't mind getting rid of these types, but with our limited numbers, it seems every resource is valuable.

If he hasnt been on since game started he wouldnt know if hes mafia or not...kinda killing your point, but you think pass or someone else is better?

Poli · 10-11-2005, 07:52 PM

VOTE End of day.

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10-11-2005, 02:05 PM	#151
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	As a multiple-time former bad guy, I can assure you that I never thought it was a good idea to not vote at all. What was ideal was when everything was spread out, or there was a run-off between two good guys. It's basically impossible to get anything useful out of a vote when we don't know what the result of the vote was, or what any of the players involved were. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

10-11-2005, 02:13 PM	#152
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Is there really any way to find out other then the investigator??...or are we just going off on nothing here?? I mean, in a game like this, the investigator hitting is huge since we can go back in time and kill bad guys or save good guys __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-11-2005, 03:41 PM	#156
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 04:41 PM	#159
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Bump for lack of participation. Do we have an ETA on when the night actions will be processed? I think once they happen we might have alittle more evidence to weigh in with when making our day two votes. __________________ Myspace Profile

10-11-2005, 04:45 PM	#161
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Yeah, we might want to avoid having the night run through the middle of the day (when everyone typically participates) the next time. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

10-11-2005, 04:59 PM	#163
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	got 'em all now give me a moment to process.

10-11-2005, 05:02 PM	#164
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 05:09 PM	#165
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	Night 1 You all go to bed hoping for a peaceful night's sleep, but everyone knows that isn't possible with the mafia running around. You hear the gun shots in the distance and you know that it can't be good. In the morning you all, well almost all of you, wake up. Someone is missing. You look around and begin to realize that Barkeep49 is not around. A quick search of the woods finds his body lying with two shots in the head. This is the work of the mafia. Day 2 has begun (post #37 updated) Last edited by SnDvls : 10-11-2005 at 05:10 PM.

10-11-2005, 05:10 PM	#166
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 05:26 PM	#168
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	That sucks Barkeep. You were one of the few who was actively participating. Hopefully we will be able to re-write time and bring you back. As far as suspicion....I'm still not sure yet. I don't want to jump the gun on Deacon, because I think night one voting was pretty random. I think the mafia would probably try to spread their votes out and not be stupid enough to all vote for the same person. I'm guessing that one probably voted for AE and the other two either voted for different peope or maybe one didn't vote at all. I'm still wondering where RD is. __________________ Myspace Profile

10-11-2005, 05:55 PM	#169
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Losing Barkeep sucks. RD not being around is disappointing. I'm not sure where we go from here either. Should we try to focus on the AE voters, figuring we have at least one mafia in there?

10-11-2005, 06:04 PM	#172
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Well, we lost Barkeep but we do have the possibility of bringing him back...and that may be a good thing if he keeps up in the thread. I think it's a no-brainer to bring him back as opposed to bringing AE back since we know for sure he's a good guy. (On second thought, it would be a extremely good ploy for the mafia to kill one of our own and then have us save him...that would be ironic...but I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to do that) Anyhow, we are pretty damn sure Barkeep was a good guy so that gives us some options (looking at the glass half-full). What's the deal with Real Deal?

10-11-2005, 06:05 PM	#173
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 06:05 PM	#174
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Stop taunting me!

10-11-2005, 06:09 PM	#176
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	SnDvlsA rules question: I know us deadies are allowed to vote for lynch. Are we still allowed to vote for end of day with it obviously only mattering if we're brought back? Last edited by Barkeep49 : 10-11-2005 at 06:10 PM.

10-11-2005, 06:09 PM	#177
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... ... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 06:09 PM	#178
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Well it seems as if the mafia wants to set me up. There HAS to be one mafia guy in the AE list, unless of course AE was a mafia himself. So are we actually going to discuss who we are going to vote for this time or let it be random again? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-11-2005, 06:15 PM	#181
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 06:21 PM	#183
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Blade - I still think you are correct that one mafia member is part of the non-voter group as well. The mafia helped us out by getting rid of one of the 3 there. That leaves only RealDeal and Pass remaining in that group. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-11-2005, 06:23 PM	#184
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I wouldn't put myself on my own suspect list, but I would put myself on a public suspect list...especially when the lynched voted for you...but then again, that's predicated upon AE being a good guy. I see two possibilities for your situation: 1. AE was a bad guy, and since he voted for you you must be a good guy. 2. AE was a good guy, and since he voted for you it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything, since if he were a good guy, then he wouldn't know for sure if you were a bad guy, right? So the chances are, you're probably a good guy. I would still consider you a suspect, but you are probably on the level, and probably more so than anyone else. I would have preferred to hear this from you, since it would show your innocence even more, but that's my analysis of his vote for you.

10-11-2005, 06:30 PM	#186
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	so since were already on day 2, we can already talk voting...im leaning pass and real deal right now...any objections? __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-11-2005, 06:33 PM	#187
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Just one, why Passacaglia? I can understand Real Deal since he hasn't showed, but why Pass?

10-11-2005, 06:35 PM	#188
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Dola, I can understand we need someone else. We need at least two options to draw them out and Pass is the only one who hasn't declared their innocence, but I'm not sure if that that is necessary. I mean, if you were mafia, wouldn't you claim you were innocent too?

10-11-2005, 06:36 PM	#190
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Gotcha. I made a mistake thinking he voted for AE. In any case, I think we'll make a good call by knocking off one of the bad guys or at the very least someone who doesn't contribute anything.

10-11-2005, 06:47 PM	#191
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	What does everyone think of that plan...lets make a move and go with it...if everyone comes along we could get this day over soon if we can come to an agreement on any suspect __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-11-2005, 06:50 PM	#193
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Vote sent IAW Plan Blade.

10-11-2005, 06:51 PM	#194
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Dola, I'm out for the night as well. Biggest Loser is coming on and I need to get to bed.

10-11-2005, 06:55 PM	#195
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	im leaning to voting real, then pass, then deacon...is that clear to everyone?? I vote to end day as well and hope everyone else follows __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-11-2005, 07:41 PM	#196
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I'm going to go with Blade on this one. I like the 50% odds rather than the 20% odds. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-11-2005, 07:42 PM	#197
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-11-2005, 07:46 PM	#198
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	RealDeal hasn't logged in since the game started. Do we really think a mafia person would avoid the game? Normally, in a larger game, I don't mind getting rid of these types, but with our limited numbers, it seems every resource is valuable.

10-11-2005, 07:52 PM	#200
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE End of day. ... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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