WW Amazing Race - Game Over (Moles Win & Team Reebok Wins)

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Autumn

We are all going to sing for you tomorrow, Pass. Didn't you read the rules?

I have a feeling I'm not going to like your tune.

[Danny]

Just for numbers purposes, we're 6-2 now. It's actually not bad at all if we lynch the brutal first. Either way we only get one more missed lynch. And getting the brutal just takes out an extra person we know isn't a wolf.

[JAG]

Beep beep beep

(oops, wrong game)

[Danny]

I'm tired, so I'm off for the night. Good job today guys!

[EagleFan]

When you are allowed to begin you will start at Jamaica and travel to Frankfurt. From there...

You have a clue to the Roadblock.
Who likes life in the fast lane? Requires Travel, Mental.


You have a clue to the Detour.

Drink it: Drink It, Each member must down an oversized stein of beer. Requires Eating and mental.
- Each down the beer and get the clue.
- If you can take that much quickly you can be done soon, if not it could be a long and frustrating task

Find It: Find the next clue hidden along the banks of the river Main. Requires Mental and Travel.
- Search for the hidden clue along the banks of the river.
- If you can spot it quickly you will gain an advantage; miss it and it could cost you the race.

Pit Stop - Mardasson Memorial in Bastogne

[EagleFan]

Leg Five in Pictures

[EagleFan]

Leg Six in Pictures

[Autumn]

I can't wait to see Lathum and Jackal's take on this - nice picture, EF.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I can't believe that despite making Hoopsguy throw up jerk chicken, my team's still an hour behind.

but only 20 minutes behind them.. so we did move up a little

[Lathum]

HAHAHAHAHAHA


That was awesome

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Stop saying stuff like that ... what, are you trying to get my night-killed????

Stop boldfacing stuff like that...what are you trying to get yourself nightkilled?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Good work, Danny + CrimsonFox

I feel better about some other players as well (hi, Autumn!) but will leave that alone for now until we see the night kill posted.

*highfive Danny!*

Our spidey sense wasn't crappy today. Woo!

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Danny

Right now I am guessing the last two wolves are Pass and GE.

excellent guess.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

As we see the first team come into view we see that we have a new leader....

CrimsonFox and GoldenEagle make their way to the mat first....

CrimsonFox and GoldenEagle, you are the first team to arrive...

Woooooooooooooo! ROCK On Teammate! Way to chow down! Team ColorAnimal!

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

We fade back in at the airport and see Lathum and Jackal continueing to climb down the steps.

"One last warning!!!! Do not move!!!"

Lathum stops with Jackal nearly bumping him over...

"Sorry, we can't..."

He gives Jackal one last look and they begin forward again into a hail of bullets.

They slowly fall to the ground. Both badly hurt but still moving.

Lathum tries to stand again as we see a gun barrel enter the screen.

A flash of the barrel and Lathum drops motionless.

"Not this time bitch..."

The camera pans back and we see Phil standing with gun in hand...

Lathum and Jackal have been eliminated from the Race.

Both have been eliminated completely from the game now as they are out of both halves.

This show has definitely jumped the shark. I'm turning the channel to reruns of Two and a Half Men next week.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Autumn

We are all going to sing for you tomorrow, Pass. Didn't you read the rules?

Danny's the Bass, I'm the Baritone, and Autumn is the girly Tenor castrata.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

And Day 6 is the time to sort out the quiet guys?

This post made me LOL

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

*highfive Danny!*

Our spidey sense wasn't crappy today. Woo!

actually i take that back. Danny and I don't even have a vote. You villagers should give yourselves highfives. good job.

[CrimsonFox]

JAG 5 - Autumn (1570), hoopsguy (1585), mckerney (1640), ntndeacon (1666), GoldenEagle (1678)
mckerney 2 - Chief Rum (1594), JAG (1634)
Passacaglia 1 - cougarfreak (1599)ntndeacon 1 - PackerFanatic (1508)

People that I don't think are the duke:
GE - would have used it on ntn every vote.
CR - would have used it on mckerney
Possibly mckerney. Does the duke have an if/then clause when using it?
Like can you say "if i am the top vote candidate, activate it, don't activate otherwise."?
possibly cougar. He didn't seem REALLY strident about pass but still really wanted to vote for him.

I think based on yesterday everyone ELSE could be the duke. Leaning toward packer/cougar.

[CrimsonFox]

oops...forgot to remove the EF votecount from my post but now can't go back and edit it out. *head explodes*

[CrimsonFox]

Damned that Jerked chicken looks good. *drool*

[JAG]

Awesome pictures again EF.

[mauchow]

Too bad for the rest of you villagers, I'm back! Top 5 and I get my next roll of film! errrr

[hoopsguy]

I, for one, am terrified of what we will find on mauboy1's new roll of film.

[Danny]

3 words, Danny, thong, whipped cream

[Danny]

Damn, that's four words lol

[hoopsguy]

Counting is hard

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

People that I don't think are the duke:
GE - would have used it on ntn every vote.
CR - would have used it on mckerney
Possibly mckerney. Does the duke have an if/then clause when using it?
Like can you say "if i am the top vote candidate, activate it, don't activate otherwise."?
possibly cougar. He didn't seem REALLY strident about pass but still really wanted to vote for him.

I think based on yesterday everyone ELSE could be the duke. Leaning toward packer/cougar.

From what I recall, you can do that, yes - and I am not the duke, nor am I a wolf. cougar has been a little too quiet, so I could see a vote for him today (especially if I am a candidate)

[cougarfreak]

I'm sticking to my guns today,, I'm going

vote pass

[Autumn]

I think you have to look at Mckerney voters strongly. If we've got two wolves left, one of them has to have been in there (and I'm talking pre-last minute shifts). Chief, GE and NTN. Pass is suspect for holding off on his vote and therefore avoiding any blame. Actually this vote count getting quoted is messed up. Anyone have the right one?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I think you have to look at Mckerney voters strongly. If we've got two wolves left, one of them has to have been in there (and I'm talking pre-last minute shifts). Chief, GE and NTN. Pass is suspect for holding off on his vote and therefore avoiding any blame. Actually this vote count getting quoted is messed up. Anyone have the right one?

I'm pretty sure the one in CrimsonFox's most recent post is correct, except it needs a carriage return in the last line, to show that PF voted for NTN. Like this (I think):

JAG 5 - Autumn (1570), hoopsguy (1585), mckerney (1640), ntndeacon (1666), GoldenEagle (1678)
mckerney 2 - Chief Rum (1594), JAG (1634)
Passacaglia 1 - cougarfreak (1599)
ntndeacon 1 - PackerFanatic (1508)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I think you have to look at Mckerney voters strongly. If we've got two wolves left, one of them has to have been in there (and I'm talking pre-last minute shifts). Chief, GE and NTN. Pass is suspect for holding off on his vote and therefore avoiding any blame. Actually this vote count getting quoted is messed up. Anyone have the right one?

Does a different voting count change the suspect list?

I agree with your logic, but as it stands, I don't much like our chances with where it's pointing.

If ntn is a wolf, I'll be floored because then the Day One votes that chose to put him up over me against mau make no sense whatsoever.

If GE is a wolf, he can only be the cunning, since he was scanned by a known seer who provided that information to a known villager.

The last option of your choices there--and best, I'll admit, from everyone else's perspective--is me. I can understand votes for me on that, but I can guarantee you my lynch doesn't get us a wolf.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Does a different voting count change the suspect list?

Because I couldn't remember where some people ended up voting?

[Autumn]

Chief, I'm interested in what other direction you suggest we go in. You think none of the wolves other than JAG voted Mckerney yesterday? So two other wolves voted elsewhere or didn't vote?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Chief, I'm interested in what other direction you suggest we go in. You think none of the wolves other than JAG voted Mckerney yesterday? So two other wolves voted elsewhere or didn't vote?

No, if you see what I wrote, you'll note that I agree with your logic. It would be hard to believe that no wolves voted for mckerney.

But it would require a bit of a leap for ntn and GE to be wolves, and the most likely candidate off of that list, myself, I know for a fact is not a wolf, even though the rest of you don't know that.

One possibility is that mckerney is indeed a wolf also, a possibility which has been brought up. If two wolves are up for the lynch last night, it throws out traditional logic on where the wolves would vote.

I am undecided at this point what direction to go. I still lean to fidning it hard to believe that Pass did his act and is a wolf, but with many in the game having at least one or two "good votes" (as well as bad votes), it would be foolish to give someone a pass on nothing much more than a gut call.

I still feel very certain that ntn is a villager.

[hoopsguy]

Autumn, I'll try to compile a vote record (all votes, not just final) over the next hour.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Because I couldn't remember where some people ended up voting?

Well, I couldn't remember the final vote count either, so I figured if there were errors in the vote count you were using, the corrections might put new candidates on the list or remove current ones. That's all I was saying there.

[Autumn]

So we've got one group of suspects who aided in McKerney being a top vote getter and then either stayed there or switched late to JAG. We then have a second group of people who kind of remained out of the vote, Pass, Cougar, PackerFanatic. And then lastly we have the possibility of Mckerney being a wolf, which would require some examination to figure out what that might mean.

I think as mentioned last night Pass and GE are strong contenders for the last two wolves, but it doesn't hurt to look at the whole picture. I would guess one wolf from each group, but I suppose it's possible both either jumped in or stayed out.

[hoopsguy]

I wanted to note the wolf kills so far.

Night 1 - no kill (possible condition for day kill?)
Night 2 - CrimsonFox (seer hunting?)
Night 3 - Darth Vilus (seer found)
Day 4 - Lathum (bodyguard removed)
Night 4 - Saldana (delivered wolf, clearly trusted)
Night 5 - bhlloy (1 of 2 scanned by seer)
Night 6 - Autumn (villager with good thread actions)

Anyone else see something that doesn't quite add up with the Night 6 kill, based on the other kills?

[Autumn]

Indeed. I was noticing that myself.

[Chief Rum]

Wow, very good point hoops.

[Chief Rum]

That would certainly settle my mckerney voters are all villagers issue.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That would certainly settle my mckerney voters are all villagers issue.

Maybe what I posted isn't right after all then, since the only mckerney voters were you and JAG.

[Autumn]

No, Pass, we're just discussing NTN and GE as Mckerney voters also, who made a late move to JAG.

[Passacaglia]

Oh okay, gotcha.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

One possibility is that mckerney is indeed a wolf also, a possibility which has been brought up. If two wolves are up for the lynch last night, it throws out traditional logic on where the wolves would vote.

Of course if mckerney is a wolf, then those of us with the very late swing have to be looked at more suspiciously.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Of course if mckerney is a wolf, then those of us with the very late swing have to be looked at more suspiciously.

Well, except that the other candidate was a wolf. So we don't really know what the wolves are thinking. I would think if two wolves were up, the wolves would act to protect the cunning (especially if already scanned), and might encourage the brutal wolf to fall on the sword and take out a villager.

If what hoops is suggesting is true, we know who the cunning is and he wasn't a candidate last night. We know JAG was a vanilla wolf. If mckerney is the third wolf, he would have been the brutal, and it doesn't make sense that the wolves would move a two wolf vote toward JAG, the vanilla wolf, over mckerney, the hypothetical brutal.

So if hoops is right, I suspect mckerney is indeed a villager.

[Autumn]

In general that makes sense, Chief, but at this point in the game with the seer and bodyguard gone, I'm not sure it benefits the wolves to get the brutal lynched now, versus later. Better to hold on to the brutal to endgame. Or at the very least, doesn't make a particular difference.

I tend to not think McK is a wolf also, though. That's why I didn't vote him, and the way voting went down only made me think that more so.

[hoopsguy]

1438 - Autumn votes mckerney 1-0
1508 - PF votes NTN 1-1 mck/NTN
1516 - Hoops votes Pass 1-1-1 mck/NTN/Pass
1547 - Autumn unvotes mckerney 1-1 NTN/Pass
1570 - Autumn votes JAG 1-1-1 NTN/Pass/JAG
1585 - Hoops unvotes Pass, votes JAG 2-1 JAG over NTN
1591 - NTN votes JAG 3-1 JAG over NTN
1594 - Chief votes mckerney 3-1-1 JAG over NTN/mck
1599 - Cougar votes Pass 3-1-1-1 JAG over NTN/mck/Pass
1606 - GE votes mckerney 3-2-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass
1618 - NTN unvotes JAG, votes mckerney 3-2-1-1 mck over JAG over NTN/Pass
1632 - mck votes Pass 3-2-2-1 mck over JAG/Pass over NTN
1634 - JAG votes mckerney 4-2-2-1 mck over JAG/Pass over NTN
1640 - mck unvotes Pass, votes JAG 4-3-1-1 mck over JAG over NTN/Pass
1666 - NTN unvotes mck, votes JAG 4-3-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass
1678 - GE unvotes mck, votes JAG 5-2-1-1 JAG over mck over NTN/Pass

[Autumn]

Lots of interesting things in that, thanks Hoops.