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Old 03-31-2009, 07:29 AM   #101
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mind you i never voted for abe

I think Danny meant me. Although I didn't have any actual reasoning for my vote, other than lets get rid of the whinger.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:45 AM   #102
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hmmmm
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:20 AM   #103
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VOTE LATHUM

Not much else to go on day 1. He seems to be stirring the pot a little too much this early on.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:22 AM   #104
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lathum/abe/danny hmm? those are the 3 options
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:26 AM   #105
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:28 AM   #106
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did a little vote count, was surprised to see the movement meant that things are trending away from Abe and towards lathum. Note that Pass voted for Abe initially (40) and then switched to Lathum (100), and that's the only movement so far.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:39 AM   #107
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interesting little run there
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:39 AM   #108
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I want to hold off on my vote until later, because I may have to use it defensively.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:50 AM   #109
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VOTE LATHUM

Not much else to go on day 1. He seems to be stirring the pot a little too much this early on.

I don't understand this logic at all.

Stirring the pot early on gives us information down the road. Would you rather have everyone just do a hit and run vote? I know if I was a wolf that is what I would want.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:56 AM   #110
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A couple of interesting early observations.

The little run on me, makes it even more interesting that Pass had voted for Abe early on, then Abe gets another vote and Pass jumps off of him and onto me. Unless Pass knows something what does it matter who he votes for, we are all flying blind day 1, why switch votes?

Danny voting for Pass and Pass instead of returning the favor and making it 2 votes on Danny he puts a vote on me, now why is that? Then Packerfanatic puts a 3rd vote on me, plus Abe still has his vote, this is putting us close to a potential runaway/

When Schmidty voted there were already 4 candidates who had at least 1 vote, why introduce a new candidate by voting Poli?
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:57 AM   #111
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Oh, and he's drawing heat for it? That's it.


UNVOTE ABE SARGENT
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actualy I explain myself later on in the thread, yet you chose to ignore that and are using this as a week excuse, you seem very wolfy to me right now
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:01 AM   #112
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actualy I explain myself later on in the thread, yet you chose to ignore that and are using this as a week excuse, you seem very wolfy to me right now

You didn't explain anything -- you even furthered my case for you by dissing Depeche Mode as well!
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:02 AM   #113
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I don't understand this logic at all.

Stirring the pot early on gives us information down the road. Would you rather have everyone just do a hit and run vote? I know if I was a wolf that is what I would want.

You did a hit and run vote until I pulled it our of you. Seems a little silly to be dissing someone else for doing the same.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:14 AM   #114
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let's try to bring it a bit closer. I get what you're saying Lathum.

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Old 03-31-2009, 09:16 AM   #115
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I'd still like for you to hammer down exactly why you voted for me. No maybes, nothing, just a specific reason.

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in all seriousness it just seems like you are pulling a hide out in the open strategy

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Again, I would like specifics. Exactly how so. Just tell me how.

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You didn't explain anything -- you even furthered my case for you by dissing Depeche Mode as well!

I guess you decided to skip over this portion of the thread
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:17 AM   #116
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:18 AM   #117
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I guess you decided to skip over this portion of the thread

I wouldn't say I skipped it -- just ignored it. I think you're making something out of nothing, and my vote has nothing to do with that.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:19 AM   #118
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You did a hit and run vote until I pulled it our of you. Seems a little silly to be dissing someone else for doing the same.

after I voted I explained myself, yes you had to pull it out of me, but I was just having a little fun with you.

Pass' vote is WAY different, I am sorry, but unvoting someone on day 1 is gonna draw you heat considering if you are a villager you should be viewing the other 10 players with equal suspiscoun.

The only reason you should have to unvote day 1 is self defense. Anything else makes it look like you know more then the average villager.

And my response was to PackerFanatic saying I was stirring the pot, IMO that is a good thing on day 1, gives us something to analyze down the road.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:19 AM   #119
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Oh, I think I see the disconnect here. When I said "You didn't explain anything" I meant that you didn't explain away your diss on the Pet Shop Boys.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:20 AM   #120
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UNVOTE ABE
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mostly self defense
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:21 AM   #121
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Oh, I think I see the disconnect here. When I said "You didn't explain anything" I meant that you didn't explain away your diss on the Pet Shop Boys.

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Old 03-31-2009, 09:22 AM   #122
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I wouldn't say I skipped it -- just ignored it. I think you're making something out of nothing, and my vote has nothing to do with that.

and what exactly does your vote have to do with?

You unvoted Abe and moved to me, in an uniformed villagers eyes we should be equal variables.

You never gave any hard core reason for moving to me, so really whats the difference who goes?
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:24 AM   #123
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and what exactly does your vote have to do with?

You unvoted Abe and moved to me, in an uniformed villagers eyes we should be equal variables.

You never gave any hard core reason for moving to me, so really whats the difference who goes?

I already said in the thread earlier. I unvoted Abe because he quoted the Pet Shop Boys, and voted for you because you gave him crap for it. Other than that, you're right -- there's no difference.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:26 AM   #124
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:40 AM   #125
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I already said in the thread earlier. I unvoted Abe because he quoted the Pet Shop Boys, and voted for you because you gave him crap for it. Other than that, you're right -- there's no difference.

that is the worst reason to unvote and vote someone on day 1.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:41 AM   #126
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that is the worst reason to unvote and vote someone on day 1.

How could that be if, as you said, it makes no difference?
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:42 AM   #127
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How could that be if, as you said, it makes no difference?

hence my point.

If it makes no difference why the movement?

The only reason to move is to save someone.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:42 AM   #128
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USFL, I see you in the thread and you havent voted yet, what are your thoughts?
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:43 AM   #129
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hence my point.

If it makes no difference why the movement?

The only reason to move is to save someone.

Just to have a little fun. I like fun.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:44 AM   #130
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From my perspective, The only reason to move is to save someone.

Fixed!
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:45 AM   #131
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USFL, I see you in the thread and you havent voted yet, what are your thoughts?

This is a lot more action on day one than any of the very few games I've played. Lots to take in, but none of it seems to point one way or the other to anyone thus far. Looks like I have some thinking to do.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:15 AM   #132
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This is a lot more action on day one than any of the very few games I've played. Lots to take in, but none of it seems to point one way or the other to anyone thus far. Looks like I have some thinking to do.

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:18 AM   #133
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I think tying it up is a good thing to do here, see what shakes out. I'll stick around, though, and I won't let this end in a tie if I can possibly help it.

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:21 AM   #134
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okay i'm going to stay in thread but i've done like nothing at work all day so i gotta wor a bit
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:21 AM   #135
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*work a bit
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:21 AM   #136
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In the event of a tie the longest-held unchanged vote will break the tie.

Just an FYI on the tie-breaker rules, for those curious.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:51 AM   #137
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Hmm.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:57 AM   #138
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I think tying it up is a good thing to do here, see what shakes out. I'll stick around, though, and I won't let this end in a tie if I can possibly help it.

VOTE DANNY

Problem with tying it is that it's not really a tie. Lathum's still dead by one post at the moment. I'm not getting a wolf vibe off Lathum thus far, so in deciding between Danny and Pass, its a matter of who I want to put pressure on..

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:57 AM   #139
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Wow, just read the wikipedia entry for the USFL. What a bunch of stupid decisions all over the place. I remember seeing the Michigan Panthers play the Houston Gamblers, which I guess must have been May 6, 1984, since that's the only time Houston played in the Silverdome. Since I was 7, I had no idea the league was only in its second season -- I just knew it was a league that wasn't as good as the NFL.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:58 AM   #140
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Problem with tying it is that it's not really a tie. Lathum's still dead by one post at the moment. I'm not getting a wolf vibe off Lathum thus far, so in deciding between Danny and Pass, its a matter of who I want to put pressure on..

VOTE PASS

Okay, the pressure's on me -- what do you want that pressure to do?
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:05 AM   #141
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Okay, the pressure's on me -- what do you want that pressure to do?

Sweat? I donno. Either your hand is going to be forced or votes are going to move around. Its unfortunate that not everyone will be around at deadline, but lessee what shakes up.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:08 AM   #142
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Still to vote: Abe
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:10 AM   #143
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Sweat? I donno. Either your hand is going to be forced or votes are going to move around. Its unfortunate that not everyone will be around at deadline, but lessee what shakes up.

Are you talking about forcing my hand to switch my vote for Danny? Yeah, as it is now, it probably would be forced. So it's definitely pressure, but in a way, it kind of takes the decision-making out of it for me. Then again, maybe you all have had enough of my decision-making anyway, with my earlier vote-switching.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:15 AM   #144
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Are you talking about forcing my hand to switch my vote for Danny? Yeah, as it is now, it probably would be forced. So it's definitely pressure, but in a way, it kind of takes the decision-making out of it for me. Then again, maybe you all have had enough of my decision-making anyway, with my earlier vote-switching.

you could switch and vote for lathum too ya know and win the tiebreaker. just pointing that out
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:16 AM   #145
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and Abe still needs to vote...
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:17 AM   #146
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i'm interested to see what Abe does
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:18 AM   #147
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Personally, unless someone else shows up and switches their votes, I think the real pressure is on Abe and Danny.

If Abe votes me or Lathum, he pretty much puts the nail in the coffin there. If he votes Danny, then Lathum gets screwed (assuming that Danny shows up to move his vote). And if he votes outside of those three, he's guilty of chickening out (a valid strategy that I employed last game), and the lynch is left to whatever happens with me and Danny.

As for Danny, if he shows up, he's got to sense that I'm on the block now, and I'd be looking to vote him to save myself. His best way to save himself, IMO, is to vote Lathum, but the vote counts are low enough that he could bring in a 4th candidate and see what flies there -- though my guess is that not many people would be looking to join him in switching this late. So maybe he doesn't have that many options after all.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:19 AM   #148
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you could switch and vote for lathum too ya know and win the tiebreaker. just pointing that out

O RLY?
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:20 AM   #149
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When Schmidty voted there were already 4 candidates who had at least 1 vote, why introduce a new candidate by voting Poli?

Because it's tradition for the first day.
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Pass can double vote?
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