Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over)

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I can do that, but I think it would be fairly transparent what the linkage is for some people.

Complete Trust: my faction
Moderate Trust: BrianD, Cronin, Player X, Player Y, Bulletsponge

So if I now put names around Player X and Player Y would people assume that I'm trusting them with BrianD/Bullet or with Cronin?

If/when the trust list gets bigger I think this non-linking concept may have more value.

Well, I thought you had more people than that. I suppose if we can get everyone linked together with someone else, it will be easier to kill off that faction once one guy is exposed as an assassin.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Well, at least it isn't an obvious tell, so everyone jumps on board your faction.

Anyone who tries to jump on board my faction will have a hard time, as the messages were quite unique in their wording. It would be far easier to crack one of the other faction's codes then to try and guess either 12 word message. Thats why i feel confident i can share that publicly, as anyone who cracks my day one code now would not earn my trust. I also hope my faction leader reads this and helps with a more easily discernable message tonight that can be used tomorrow.

[Lathum]

also I am not ready to execute bulletsponge since him and BrianD seem to have a connection and it would be a pretty bold move to make on BrianD's part.

VOTE UNJAIL BULLETSPONGE

one think I don't get is why people are voting for St Cronin when he has been linked to other players already? I am willing to change my vote is someone can help me out with this.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Lathum

also I am not ready to execute bulletsponge since him and BrianD seem to have a connection and it would be a pretty bold move to make on BrianD's part.

VOTE UNJAIL BULLETSPONGE

one think I don't get is why people are voting for St Cronin when he has been linked to other players already? I am willing to change my vote is someone can help me out with this.

I voted for him becuase he stated a couple times he trusts no one...to me that means he is either a head noble whos code has not worked, or an assasin who slipped up. Its the best reason i have to go off right now, hence my vote.

[bulletsponge]

Hmmm theres lots of talk of codes and hidden messages

[hoopsguy]

SnDvls - you could take a post this afternoon to try and follow a Day 1 code or a Day 2 code (did Barkeep forward these to you) to signal your teammates.

If the signal is particularly good/deceptive perhaps you could even label the post as such ...

[st.cronin]

I'm out til after lynch/jail.

[BrianD]

I'm out now too. Good luck all.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

SnDvls - you could take a post this afternoon to try and follow a Day 1 code or a Day 2 code (did Barkeep forward these to you) to signal your teammates.

If the signal is particularly good/deceptive perhaps you could even label the post as such ...

I did get the day 1 code, and found some allies, but I'm not going to try and use it as it was a day 1 code. Kinda like in the TV show The Unit from last week I didn't want to use the wrong code from day 1 on day 2. I did pick up on those that did though so I have a good base to start from in that, just have to earn the other's trust in my posts so it is recripricated. My fellow noble members should know if I got the day 2 code though so I'm not too worried about that it's the lack of posting on day 1 that worries me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I will admit to not adhering to the letter of my instruction. It was not totally straightforward, and on top of that, it was almost impossible to do without being blindingly obvious.

I had initially identified two others, besides my faction leader, that I considered probable, but a subsequent post by one of them has led me to cross that person off the list.

At this point, I really need someone (besides st.cronin, who I moderately trust) to vote for.

I'm still concerned about the complete lack of argument involving the release of bulletsponge.

If I get back before the deadline, these may change; otherwise, I suppose, at worst, they won't do too much damage.

VOTE UNJAIL bulletsponge
VOTE JAIL kingfc22

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, having two others also agreed with my supposition that there are four factions of four.

[Chief Rum]

I don't have a clue who to vote for, and I don't buy the st. cronin lynch mentality. So I will just vote for inactive players. I already did my Execute vote.

I am probably out until after the deadline.

VOTE JAIL QWIKSHOT

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of Post #562:

Bulletsponge/Jail Vote:
Free 8 -- Brian (466), King (471), Hoops (475), Blade (486), Cronin (490), Fouts (509), Lathum (553), MrW (560)
No Execute 3 -- RealDeal (516), SnDvls (528), Rum (532)

Day 2 Vote:
Qwikshot 2 -- BrianD (540), Rum (562)
Cronin 2 -- Blade (444), SnDvls (528)
Lathum 1 -- King (455)
Fouts 1 -- Cronin (508)
SnDvls1 -- Real (454)
King 1 -- Lathum (543)

[hoopsguy]

I'm going to have trouble being around at deadline - working later than usual and the train schedule is not very accomodating. So I'm going to need to get a vote on before heading out for the day.

When in doubt, I'm willing to go down the quiet route. And I would prefer not to see Cronin jeopardized on this day. So I'll back Qwikshot, even though it does not represent an optimal points strategy - that would probably be Lonestargirl who has been at least as quiet but not getting any pressure.

VOTE QWIKSHOT

[hoopsguy]

Oops, proper voting etiquette for this game means that I must

VOTE JAIL QWIKSHOT

[Abe Sargent]

Let me get caught up

[Lathum]

hoops, king should have 2 jail votes I believe. Me and Mr Wednesday

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Votes as of Post #562:

Bulletsponge/Jail Vote:
Free 8 -- Brian (466), King (471), Hoops (475), Blade (486), Cronin (490), Fouts (509), Lathum (553), MrW (560)
No Execute 3 -- RealDeal (516), SnDvls (528), Rum (532)

Day 2 Vote:
Qwikshot 2 -- BrianD (540), Rum (562)
Cronin 2 -- Blade (444), SnDvls (528)
Lathum 1 -- King (455)
Fouts 1 -- Cronin (508)
SnDvls1 -- Real (454)
King 1 -- Lathum (543)

I voted to free Buddy Lee as well (I mean bulletsponge)

[ntndeacon]

Vote No Execute
I understand how Brian's relationship of bullet has lead everyone to cast ballots for freeing him, but I am not completely convinced. Which is why the No Execute Vote.

I am very unsure who to send to jail. There are only a few that I have on my trust list at this point. I have no real leads on who our assassins are. So this is still somewhat random
Vote Jail Real Deal

[Fouts]

Change Free Bullet to No Execute

I think bullet likes jail.

[Fouts]

Change Free Bullet to No Execute Bullet

I think thats right now. Still working on my jail vote.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I voted to free Buddy Lee as well (I mean bulletsponge)

ok now. where did that come from buddy?

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Change Free Bullet to No Execute

I think bullet likes jail.

No, i like the sexy female guards who wear tight uniforms and do daily strip searches of me

[Abe Sargent]

Vote No Jail

I have no idea, so I'd rather not give my faction negative points by choosing in error.

[Barkeep49]

You MUST vote for someone to go to jail. You can only vote no execute. In other words a new person goes to jail each day.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm willing to accept Brian's action as vouching for Bullet.

FREE BULLETSPONGE

Doing my official tally now, though there is obviously still about 50 minutes to make changes. Just want to remind people that they must vote before they revote. Bad hoopsguy

[Barkeep49]

For Execution:

BrianD Free bulletsponge
Anxiety Free bulletsponge

King Free bulletsponge
Hoopsguy Free bulletsponge
Blade6119 Free bulletsponge
st.cronin Free bulletsponge

RealDeal Noexecute
Sndvls noexecute
Chief Rum noexecute
Lathum Free bulletsponge
Mr. Wednesday Free bulletsponge
Fouts noexecute

Which means
Free Bullet 8 -- Brian, Anxiety, king, hoops, Blade, st.cronin, lathum, mr.wednesday
No Execute 4 -- Real, sndvls, chief, fouts

No vote: Lonestar, ntn, grey, dodger, qwik, wvu, bullet


For Jail:

Blade6119 st.cronin
RealDeal Sndvls
King Lathum

st.cronin Fouts
Sndvls st.cronin
BrianD Qwikshot
Lathum King
Mr. Wednesday King
Chief Rum qwikshot
Hoopsguy qwikshot
Ntndeacon Real

Fouts 1 - st.cronin
Qwikshot 3 - Brian, Chief, hoopsguy
st. cronin 2 - Sndvls, blade
King 2 - lathum, mr.wednesday
Lathum 1 - king
Real 1 - ntn
Sndvls 1 - real

No votes: Lonestar, grey, dodger, qwik, wvu, bullet, anxiety, fouts

Note: Faction leaders votes do count as double in regards to who is jailed and to free a person (though not double for point purposes). Such votes will only be noted in the case that they have an effect on the outcome.

[hoopsguy]

Back and ready for any last 25 minute discussion.

Barkeep, sorry about the bad voting etiquette. Will try to avoid it going forward.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You MUST vote for someone to go to jail. You can only vote no execute. In other words a new person goes to jail each day.

Okay I was confused, sorry. Been more involved with real life WW politics and not in game politics

[Abe Sargent]

I have no idea who to vote for in terms of jail. Any ideas?

[hoopsguy]

Anxiety, the people I would tell you not to vote for today are:

- me (duh)
- BrianD
- Cronin
- people you have good reason to think are associated with the above

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't feel a compelling case has been made for anyone.

I feel relatively confident that st.cronin is a noble, so I think that any of the other options is better than him.

[Greyroofoo]

vote no execution
vote jail qwikshot

I really don't see the harm of letting bulletsponge rot in jail. Or any benefit of letting him out.

Honestly I'm kind of confused so far. I'll have to go back and re-read, also take better notes.

[LoneStarGirl]

UNVOTE JAIL BULLETSPONGE

VOTE JAIL QWIKSHOT

[Greyroofoo]

Can we really rule out bulletsponge being a noble leader? And thats why St. Cronin didn't get a message? I know he denies it, but when are people ever 100% truthful in WW games?

Also just a thought, is it possible the assassins tried to kill a leader that was protected that night? Would the assassins try to attack the same guy twice if that was true?

[Mr. Wednesday]

LSG, is that a vote to unjail bulletsponge?

[Fouts]

Will anyone vouch for Qwik??

[Abe Sargent]

Grey, we established earlier today that a good reason to vote Bulletsponge out is because we get points. You going agains that seems fishy to me.

Vote to Jail Greyroofoo

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

UNVOTE JAIL BULLETSPONGE

VOTE JAIL QWIKSHOT

I was just commenting on how bolding is so important and if it's not bolded I wouldn't count it. I will make an exception in this case because I noticed it and it's clear the attempt was made to bold. Wonder why it didn't take. Just realize that if you don't bold your vote and I miss it, I will not correct for it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Also just a thought, is it possible the assassins tried to kill a leader that was protected that night? Would the assassins try to attack the same guy twice if that was true?

I thought it was one of the possibilities, yes. (Actually, an attempt to kill anybody protected.)

I figured that if any useful information was obtained by the protector, it would have been posted by now. Otherwise, better for the protector to lay low.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

UNVOTE JAIL BULLETSPONGE

VOTE JAIL QWIKSHOT

Though of course this is only a jail vote and not an execute vote. LSG do you want to keep bullet in jail (vote no execution), free him (vote free), or execute him (vote execute)

[RealDeal]

unvote jail sndvls
jail king

I still think one of those two guys who weren't around day 1 is no good. Since sndvls has no other votes, I'll switch to king to make sure my vote has some purpose. I'm still "no execution" on bullet.

[Fouts]

Time is running out and nobody is speaking up for Qwik. I will stick with my day one vote.

vote jail qwikshot

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Wonder why it didn't take.

Prolly 'cuz it was HTML, not vB code. Although, HTML used to be done here... maybe they turned it off during my lull.

[hoopsguy]

Agreed, if the bodyguard blocked an attack I would have expected to hear about it. If there was a jailbreak attempt that was blocked I would have expected to hear about it.

Without that information, we either saw a fast talker converted or we are going to see double deaths tonight (heck, maybe more if certain roles are in the game).

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Prolly 'cuz it was HTML, not vB code. Although, HTML used to be done here... maybe they turned it off during my lull.

I know HTML works on the dynasty thread. Perhaps it wasn't turned on here?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I know HTML works on the dynasty thread. Perhaps it wasn't turned on here?

2nd class treatment

[LoneStarGirl]

Sorry, I got my "un" mixed up. I am also not sure why the bold tags did not take but I know not to edit my post.

VOTE UNJAIL BULLETSPONGE
VOTE QWIKSHOT

[hoopsguy]

This is a bummer that Qwikshot has not been around. He can be a very fun guy to play these games with, but he hasn't given us much to work with up to this point.

[Fouts]

Well, he isn't dead. It will give some faction a chance to vouch for him tomorrow.