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Old 02-12-2019, 01:19 PM   #15951
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Apparently Trump is "extremely unhappy" with the deal, but still is optimistic that there will be no shutdown.

Oh boy.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:58 PM   #15952
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Apparently Trump is "extremely unhappy" with the deal, but still is optimistic that there will be no shutdown.

Oh boy.

He does not like it, but he's too much of a coward to veto it. So he's putting it off and hoping that a better option will present itself. It won't, and he'll sign it.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:09 PM   #15953
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Their lead "story" on their website is hilarious as well:

"CHRONIC MEMORY PROBLEM: Kamala Harris' claim about smoking pot while listening to Snoop, Tupac, goes up in smoke" while displaying a photo of Harris in front record covers for Tupac and Snoop.
Ok, that's pretty funny. Why make something like that up when it's so easily to verify as false??? Especially when she's already hearing whispers that she has been tool of a prison-industrial complex of sorts when she was the Cali AG. Sure, this sort of stuff is just fun giggle-worthy fodder for the right, but already some of the more hardcore/militant black voices (who are at best skeptical of her) are picking this up as more evidence that she's "not one of us." It could legit hurt her in the primaries.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:51 PM   #15954
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Interesting news day.
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Old 02-12-2019, 04:52 PM   #15955
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Fox News is currently doing a segment about Booker being a vegan. The title is Bookers beef with beef, and all the hosts are eating various types of meats and yucking it up.

This is where roughly 1/2 the country, including POTUS, gets news in 2019.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:27 PM   #15956
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Didn't they make a big deal when Obama asked for mustard on his burger?
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:23 PM   #15957
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:52 AM   #15958
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Ok, that's pretty funny. Why make something like that up when it's so easily to verify as false??? Especially when she's already hearing whispers that she has been tool of a prison-industrial complex of sorts when she was the Cali AG. Sure, this sort of stuff is just fun giggle-worthy fodder for the right, but already some of the more hardcore/militant black voices (who are at best skeptical of her) are picking this up as more evidence that she's "not one of us." It could legit hurt her in the primaries.

I just saw the video of the interview and boy is this being reported incorrectly.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:14 AM   #15959
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Is there anything more predictable than conservative pundits breaking a two-year silence on caring about the debt as soon as the Democrats take a house of Congress?

Sure, he's being careful to be even-handed by noting that a lot of this was the GOP's fault. But the past is the past, man. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. What we can do going forward is make sure that the Democrats are completely hamstrung in doing anything by hanging the GOP's debt around their necks. You know, because we care about fiscal responsibility.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:56 PM   #15960
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Didn't know about this. Seems as if some sort of "wall" is going up now.

Butterfly Center Files For Restraining Order Against Trump's 'Unconstitutional' Border Wall | HuffPost
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Other construction is slated to soon begin at two other wildlife refuges.

A federal judge ruled last week that the government can begin surveying land owned by a small Texas Catholic church, which would also be cut off from the rest of America on a strip of land along the river. The local diocese has said it will battle any land confiscation by the federal government as a violation of the constitutional right of free expression of religion.

The Center for Biological Diversity and other environmental advocacy groups late last year also sued the Trump administration over planned construction in the Rio Grande Valley, including at the National Butterfly Center, and other areas. The suit argued that the administration’s decision to waive environmental regulations to speed construction was an “unconstitutional” power grab. The center has estimated that 93 endangered species will be further threatened by the barriers. The case is pending.

Funding to build a massive barrier along 33 miles of the Rio Grande Valley was allocated by Congress last year. Money was pointedly not to be used to construct President Donald Trump’s wall — only for fencing or levees. The final product, however, looks suspiciously similar to an image Trump has tweeted of a version of his imagined wall.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:01 PM   #15961
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It's impossible to put a number on the lives saved by putting a wall through a butterfly sanctuary. I'm sure that was El Chapo's pipeline to the US.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:59 PM   #15962
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Is there anything more predictable than conservative pundits breaking a two-year silence on caring about the debt as soon as the Democrats take a house of Congress?

Sure, he's being careful to be even-handed by noting that a lot of this was the GOP's fault. But the past is the past, man. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. What we can do going forward is make sure that the Democrats are completely hamstrung in doing anything by hanging the GOP's debt around their necks. You know, because we care about fiscal responsibility.

Is there more to his tweet than you're showing? It appears to.me he is laying at Trump's feet.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:31 PM   #15963
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Yeah, he seems to be blaming Trump. The subsequent tweet makes that even more clear.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:03 PM   #15964
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What was he thinking ...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/polit...ler/index.html
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Paul Manafort "intentionally" lied to special counsel Robert Mueller's office, breaking the plea agreement that made him the star cooperator in the Russia probe, a federal judge found on Wednesday.

Manafort "made multiple false statements to the FBI, the OSC and the grand jury concerning matters that were material to the investigation," including his contacts with his Russian associate during the campaign and later, Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote on Wednesday.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:05 PM   #15965
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:09 PM   #15966
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Possibly but hard to believe he would rely on Trump after he had "cooperated" to a large extent.

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Old 02-14-2019, 10:18 AM   #15967
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So I guess we should expect some Amdy McCabe tweets this weekend after he appears on 60 Minutes:


McCabe says he opened investigations into Trump to put Russia probe 'on solid ground' - POLITICO
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:57 PM   #15968
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So I guess we should expect some Amdy McCabe tweets this weekend after he appears on 60 Minutes:


McCabe says he opened investigations into Trump to put Russia probe 'on solid ground' - POLITICO

This weekend? Nah, he was all over that today. Must have been on Fox News during his 6 hour executive time.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:23 PM   #15969
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Trump signing the budget compromise, but also declaring a national emergency apparently.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:28 PM   #15970
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Good to see small government conservatives sticking to their principles.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:36 PM   #15971
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:42 PM   #15972
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Pelosi pretty much just said as much in her presser.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:49 PM   #15973
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Yeah I don't give a crap about a wall other than it wasting more tax dollars. But if this goes through, Democrats can do some stuff if they win the WH. Maybe the easiest way to get Medicare for All.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:00 PM   #15974
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Politically, this seems to make sense--at least in the short term.

He either gets a wall built. Or, more likely, it is hung up in the courts, and he gets to blame Democrats and liberal judges for not keeping us safe.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:01 PM   #15975
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I still think it's possible Trump will be too much of a coward to go through with this, but if he does it we'll be in a new world where the President can spend any appropriated money on anything he/she chooses. In a very real way, that would be the end of the legislative branch.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:05 PM   #15976
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Pretty much spells the end of us.

The whole point of what the US was founded on was to prevent the tyranny of the whims of one leader without the representation of its people.

We've now crossed the Rubicon of which power can be usurped without following our Constitution.

Even if this gets knocked down in the courts, it sets the precedent that dependent on the right situation, one could eventually break our system of government.

Trump just wiped his ass with the Constitution and the GOP cheered him on. There is no way Democrats should justify this with their own whims. If they do so, it would hasten our demise even quicker.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:36 PM   #15977
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but if he does it we'll be in a new world where the President can spend any appropriated money on anything he/she chooses. In a very real way, that would be the end of the legislative branch.

Like Obama's nuclear deal with Iran....

How quickly we forget.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:06 PM   #15978
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:08 PM   #15979
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Like Obama's nuclear deal with Iran....

How quickly we forget.

Can you elaborate further on the analogy you see?
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:21 PM   #15980
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Like Obama's nuclear deal with Iran....

How quickly we forget.

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How are those two things the same?
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:32 PM   #15981
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I think what he's referring to is that the Iran agreement was fashioned as a Cooperative Plan of Action or something like that and specifically wasn't referred to or treated as a treaty because treaties require Senate approval and Obama wasn't likely to get Senate approval.

I think the analogy falls apart because the Iran agreement had provisions for the next administration to withdraw from it, as Trump did, while declaring a national emergency to build a wall has more concrete long-term effects.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:47 PM   #15982
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declaring a national emergency to build a wall has more concrete long-term effects.
I see what you did there.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:47 PM   #15983
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The Iranian deal was not voted thru the senate. They didn't have the required votes and it was forced thru. In my opinion, to say Trump is the first president to force his will is not accurate. Obama and others from both sides have done so as well, which is why I find Pelosi's and other Dem's comments today somewhat comedic.

I get what digamma is saying though regarding the wall being more concrete
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:36 PM   #15984
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Probably the only way to get significant movement on "more, sensible" gun control. I like the threat and predict a run up of gun/ammo buying before the election.

(I'll have to add to my collection also for a just-in-case)

Pelosi warns GOP: Next presidentÂ*could declare national emergency on guns | TheHill
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday issued a warning to Republicans poised to support President Trump's decision to declare a national emergency at the southern border: the next Democratic president, she said, could do the same on guns.

"A Democratic president can declare emergencies, as well," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol. "So the precedent that the president is setting here is something that should be met with great unease and dismay by the Republicans."

Pelosi noted that Thursday marked the one-year anniversary of the shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 students and faculty dead. She argued that the real national emergency is not illegal border crossings, but gun violence in the U.S.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:52 PM   #15985
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I get what digamma is saying though regarding the wall being more concrete

Up it goes, down it goes, up it goes etc. based on who wins the Presidency.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:07 AM   #15986
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Trump to NBC reporter Peter Alexander on the national emergency:


“I didn’t need to do this.” “I just want to do it faster.”


That's a lot of lawsuits he just lost.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:26 AM   #15987
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I think the wall move by Trump is fantastic and I hope it works - I look forward to a future democratic President using this tactic to declare an emergency on gun deaths and another one on the lack of a nationalised health system .... fantastic stuff, thanks Mr. Trump
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:45 AM   #15988
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I think the wall move by Trump is fantastic and I hope it works - I look forward to a future democratic President using this tactic to declare an emergency on gun deaths and another one on the lack of a nationalised health system .... fantastic stuff, thanks Mr. Trump

You have to wonder if that sentiment is prominent enough in republicans to strike down the emergency.

If it wasn't so horrifying would be fascinating times we live in.

We just moved back to NJ, and my wife was very clear with her boss we want to remain here. He said that is too bad because he had her tapped for a 3 year assignment in London. Kind if wishing we had gone down a different path.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:50 AM   #15989
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:10 PM   #15990
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I think the wall move by Trump is fantastic and I hope it works - I look forward to a future democratic President using this tactic to declare an emergency on gun deaths and another one on the lack of a nationalised health system .... fantastic stuff, thanks Mr. Trump

I can just picture President AOC trying to round up the guns lol
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:15 PM   #15991
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It feels like we're living in a political sim where someone is trying to break things to figure out how the sim engine works.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:52 PM   #15992
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I'll admit I am just playing this out off the top of my head without any research. But what is the actual cost, given what is likely to happen?

Trump declares the national emergency. The move is challenged in court as unconstitutional. Judges strike it down as not an emergency and an overreach of executive power. Trunp pouts.

Future Dem president tries to do the same thing with guns or healthcare. Same thing happens. Again, no changes.

IMO, I think the only thing that could get by the courts is climate change, as there are real concerns that could be a national and global emergency. But even that would depend on the level of measures requested and how strong the feeling of urgency is.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:57 PM   #15993
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I think the fear is that the Supreme Court rules 5-4 that the President has wide latitude to define "national emergency" and then it becomes a clusterfuck.
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Which I think is what some republicans feared and why they didn't want him to do it. If it fails in court, then less of a chance of Dems trying it. If the SC rules in his favor, though, I don't know if repubs in Senate and the House want to trade a national emergency on the Wall for one on guns and/or health care.
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I think the fear is that the Supreme Court rules 5-4 that the President has wide latitude to define "national emergency" and then it becomes a clusterfuck.

And that is an understandable fear, but my gut (my hope?) is that even conservative judges are going to be at least somewhat reasonable and would not approve egregious violations of the constitution, which this qualifies for, IMO.

They may be conservative but since they aren't by any account nutso like Trump or some of the people backing him, I suspect they will use a lot more reason and logic and uphold the importance of the framing document over the whims of one man.
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I'll admit I am just playing this out off the top of my head without any research. But what is the actual cost, given what is likely to happen?

Trump declares the national emergency. The move is challenged in court as unconstitutional. Judges strike it down as not an emergency and an overreach of executive power. Trunp pouts.

Future Dem president tries to do the same thing with guns or healthcare. Same thing happens. Again, no changes.

IMO, I think the only thing that could get by the courts is climate change, as there are real concerns that could be a national and global emergency. But even that would depend on the level of measures requested and how strong the feeling of urgency is.

Because he has positioned the courts to be in favor of overreaching powers by the executive branch.
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I think the fear is that the Supreme Court rules 5-4 that the President has wide latitude to define "national emergency" and then it becomes a clusterfuck.

I don't think the Supreme Court has any desire to touch the case. I think the most likely scenario is it's struck down by a lower federal court and the Supreme Court refuses to hear the appeal.
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Because he has positioned the courts to be in favor of overreaching powers by the executive branch.

I disagree. They're not as crazy as he is, even the conservatives.
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And that is an understandable fear, but my gut (my hope?) is that even conservative judges are going to be at least somewhat reasonable and would not approve egregious violations of the constitution, which this qualifies for, IMO.

They may be conservative but since they aren't by any account nutso like Trump or some of the people backing him, I suspect they will use a lot more reason and logic and uphold the importance of the framing document over the whims of one man.

But if they feel it is an actual emergency it doesn’t become an egregious violation. Let’s also not act like quid pro quo doesn’t exist with regards to recent nominations.
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Which I think is what some republicans feared and why they didn't want him to do it. If it fails in court, then less of a chance of Dems trying it. If the SC rules in his favor, though, I don't know if repubs in Senate and the House want to trade a national emergency on the Wall for one on guns and/or health care.

I think they'll pretend to care but actually support the move. They have to give the belief that they are big on the Constitution instead of coming out and outright supporting an Autocrat.
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