Mayweather vs De La Hoya

Atocep · 05-04-2007, 03:34 PM

Suprised there's been no thread about "the fight that will save boxing".

Does anyone see De La Hoya having much of a chance in this one? If you remove the names and look at boxing styles and recent matches, this looks horribly one-sided to me.

stevew · 05-04-2007, 03:39 PM

I hear the fight will never end.

Fouts · 05-04-2007, 03:56 PM

De La Hoya doesn't fight much anymore, and I thought Mayorga was going to tear him a new one last year (turns out Mayorga was all talk). Not looking good for Oscar again, but who knows?

Schmidty · 05-04-2007, 04:34 PM

Come on Floyd!! Make Grand Rapids proud, and put that nancy boy down.

Young Drachma · 05-04-2007, 04:54 PM

I'm considering buying the fight, because I'd like to see it. But I guess part of me feels kinda slimy buying the fight. And HBO will show a replay some other time, right? I have that channel.

Dr. Sak · 05-04-2007, 05:12 PM

I want to see this fight really bad but i refuse to buy it on PPV. I've been burnt too many times by boxing PPV.

Antmeister · 05-04-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

I want to see this fight really bad but i refuse to buy it on PPV. I've been burnt too many times by boxing PPV.

Ever since the Tyson vs. Sphinx fight, I vowed never to pay for a fight on PPV, even though I was in high school when this fight was taking place.

Atocep · 05-04-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

I want to see this fight really bad but i refuse to buy it on PPV. I've been burnt too many times by boxing PPV.

Same. I'd be much more inclined to pay for this fight if I promoters didn't think every fight should be a major PPV event. As it is now its hard for me to get excited about PPV fights anymore and I don't see myself shelling out $55 for this one.

A-Husker-4-Life · 05-04-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

Ever since the Tyson vs. Sphinx fight, I vowed never to pay for a fight on PPV, even though I was in high school when this fight was taking place.

Michael Spinks had never been knockdown before this fight and he had a 31-0 record, plus he just beat Larry Holmes twice in a row. It was a good fight on paper but not in the ring..

For this fight, I would like to see De La Hoya win but Mayweather is one bad mutha...

spleen1015 · 05-04-2007, 06:32 PM

I am getting the fight and will have 2 million of my closest friends watching it with me!

Seriously, I have some amigos coming over to play a little 360 before the fight then we'll watch De La Hoya win!

cmp · 05-04-2007, 08:52 PM

Mayweather hands down. Have to go with the hometown kid.

Schmidty · 05-04-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gold101

Mayweather hands down. Have to go with the hometown kid.

Hell yeah, man.

Rizon · 05-04-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

Ever since the Tyson vs. Sphinx fight, I vowed never to pay for a fight on PPV, even though I was in high school when this fight was taking place.

I was at this dude's house for that fight, and he did some minor construction to his house (cut some holes, etc.) before the fight to run some kind of cable line to his bigger TV from another room. He almost started crying after the fight was over, cause he went through alot of friggin trouble for nothing.

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 12:08 AM

While I still think Mayweather will win the fight (but I'm hoping Oscar wins), De La Hoya weighed in at the weight limit of 154 and Mayweather weighed in at 150. I'm not sold on the idea that a few pounds, even at that level, makes much of a difference, but if it does, there it is.

And for the record, I would much rather pay for a dozen Tyson-Spinks fights than a single John Ruiz fight.

jbergey22 · 05-05-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I'm considering buying the fight, because I'd like to see it. But I guess part of me feels kinda slimy buying the fight. And HBO will show a replay some other time, right? I have that channel.

Why would you feel "slimy" buying the fight? I've ordered numerous boxing PPV's and only been disappointed twice(Jones-Tarver3 and Tyson hitting some tool after the bell and the tool faking an injury after the first round). This fight will live up to expectations because its in the lower weights. Boxing is a great sport if you look for more than knockouts.

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Why would you feel "slimy" buying the fight? I've ordered numerous boxing PPV's and only been disappointed twice(Jones-Tarver3 and Tyson hitting some tool after the bell and the tool faking an injury after the first round). This fight will live up to expectations because its in the lower weights. Boxing is a great sport if you look for more than knockouts.

Because they're hyping this thing beyond belief to get us to buy. I've never bought PPV before, but my dad always used to and sure enough, the fights never lasted long enough to make it worthwhile. Kinda crappy to me.

Even hearing the HBO PPV VP on TV the other day saying that he believed more championship level boxing had to be on TV accessible for ordinary folks, made me believe that not buying this fight makes more sense than not. Especially since my sports fan friends aren't in town this weekend anyway.

timmae · 05-05-2007, 09:49 AM

I'll be buying and watching. And rooting for De La Hoya to knock the snot out of Mayweather. Does anyone know how many undercards will be shown on the broadcast? I know Jaurez/Hernandez will be shown. Also, $55 isn't much for a few hours of entertainment. Even if the main fight disappoints you'll get a few hours of boxing and commentary if you're watching the undercard bout. Have a few drinks in any bar in Chicago and you're paying more than $55...

cartman · 05-05-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

While I still think Mayweather will win the fight (but I'm hoping Oscar wins), De La Hoya weighed in at the weight limit of 154 and Mayweather weighed in at 150. I'm not sold on the idea that a few pounds, even at that level, makes much of a difference, but if it does, there it is.

And for the record, I would much rather pay for a dozen Tyson-Spinks fights than a single John Ruiz fight.

I don't put much stock in the weigh-in, but there being a 4 pound difference is a little surprising. Usually boxers have to struggle to make the limit, then show up on fight night weighing 5 to 10 pounds more at the weigh-in. Might be interesting if the Golden Boy is 10 to 15 pounds heavier then Mayweather during the fight.

Greyroofoo · 05-05-2007, 11:23 AM

UFC > Boxing

spleen1015 · 05-05-2007, 11:35 AM

2 undercards

The main event is scheduled to start at 11:30pm EST.

sterlingice · 05-05-2007, 02:07 PM

Man, I'd love to see this tonight but I'm going to be at the Royals game so I'm going to be missing this and the Rockets game 7

SI

MizzouRah · 05-05-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Man, I'd love to see this tonight but I'm going to be at the Royals game so I'm going to be missing this and the Rockets game 7

SI

what better royals game or fight?

sterlingice · 05-05-2007, 02:31 PM

Well, considering I can actully go to one (and it's buck night) and the other I'll just be sitting at home watching. I'll take the live sporting event.

SI

WVUFAN · 05-05-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

UFC > Boxing

Agreed.

And Pro Wrestling > UFC

MizzouRah · 05-05-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Well, considering I can actully go to one (and it's buck night) and the other I'll just be sitting at home watching. I'll take the live sporting event.

SI

Beers for a buck?

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I don't put much stock in the weigh-in, but there being a 4 pound difference is a little surprising. Usually boxers have to struggle to make the limit, then show up on fight night weighing 5 to 10 pounds more at the weigh-in. Might be interesting if the Golden Boy is 10 to 15 pounds heavier then Mayweather during the fight.

I don't think he'll come in much heavier than his 154 weigh in. Maybe 158-160. When he fought Hopkins, he weighed in at 156, 4 pounds under the limit. But I question how effective Mayweather will be. Not only is De La Hoya bigger than any fighter he's faced, he's also the tallest. I don't think the weight will slow him down, but he's mastered staying away from people 5'5" and 5'7". I wonder if De La Hoya at 5'10" will catch him more oftan and if that extra 5-10 pounds will make Mayweather fell it more when he does.

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Agreed.

And Pro Wrestling > UFC

Geez, at least when Grey trolled the thread he compared boxing to an actual sport.

WVUFAN · 05-05-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Geez, at least when Grey trolled the thread he compared boxing to an actual sport.

Hey, Pro Wrestling is fixed, not fake.

Just like Boxing. And NASCAR, according tp Tony Stewart.

Trolling over, sorry.

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Hey, Pro Wrestling is fixed, not fake.

Just like Boxing. And NASCAR, according tp Tony Stewart.

And football, according to Seattle Seahawks fans.

WVUFAN · 05-05-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

And football, according to Seattle Seahawks fans.

Very true.

In any case, sorry for hijacking the thread.

cartman · 05-05-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I don't think he'll come in much heavier than his 154 weigh in. Maybe 158-160. When he fought Hopkins, he weighed in at 156, 4 pounds under the limit. But I question how effective Mayweather will be. Not only is De La Hoya bigger than any fighter he's faced, he's also the tallest. I don't think the weight will slow him down, but he's mastered staying away from people 5'5" and 5'7". I wonder if De La Hoya at 5'10" will catch him more oftan and if that extra 5-10 pounds will make Mayweather fell it more when he does.

I'm thinking the extra weight is a bonus for Oscar as well. He's used to fighting at a bunch of different weight classes, so having some extra heft behind the punch can only help. Arturo Gatti is probably the most blatant example of bloating up after weigh-in.

kingfc22 · 05-05-2007, 04:53 PM

Comcast sucks. $55 for a fight that they aren't even showing in HD. Sorry, but you could of had my money. Now I'll just wait a week or two to watch in HBO for free in HD

cartman · 05-05-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Comcast sucks. $55 for a fight that they aren't even showing in HD. Sorry, but you could of had my money. Now I'll just wait a week or two to watch in HBO for free in HD

DirecTV wants $65 for the HD feed.

kingfc22 · 05-05-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

DirecTV wants $65 for the HD feed.

That's absurd, but at least they will be showing it in HD.

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Comcast sucks. $55 for a fight that they aren't even showing in HD. Sorry, but you could of had my money. Now I'll just wait a week or two to watch in HBO for free in HD

That's odd, I can get it from Comcast in HD. Look through the Guide, on mine it's labeled "Boxing in HD" and it's channel 214 or something like that (it's in with the rest of the HD channel section).

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I'm thinking the extra weight is a bonus for Oscar as well. He's used to fighting at a bunch of different weight classes, so having some extra heft behind the punch can only help. Arturo Gatti is probably the most blatant example of bloating up after weigh-in.

Yeah, I felt sorry for Gamache. That fight ended his career (although at his age, he was close to done anyway). EDIT: Just read that he suffered permanent brain damage because of that fight.

kingfc22 · 05-05-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

That's odd, I can get it from Comcast in HD. Look through the Guide, on mine it's labeled "Boxing in HD" and it's channel 214 or something like that (it's in with the rest of the HD channel section).

I guess Bay Area comcast sucks then

cartman · 05-05-2007, 09:09 PM

That was an entertaining lightweight undercard. Lots of action, and it went the distance to boot.

Senator · 05-05-2007, 09:18 PM

Just made it home with some family, we thought we would order it. Phone number is continually busy and the website is toast.

Oh, well.

cartman · 05-05-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

Just made it home with some family, we thought we would order it. Phone number is continually busy and the website is toast.

Oh, well.

If you hop in the car NOW, and take 281 down, you MIGHT make it to my place before the main event is over, as long as the undercards and main event go the distance...

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 09:47 PM

I'm half tempted to order this. I probably shouldn't. But I'm tempted.

Senator · 05-05-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I'm half tempted to order this. I probably shouldn't. But I'm tempted.

If you are calling or using online to do it, good luck.

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 09:49 PM

I live in Wyoming. There isn't any waiting in line for much of anything here.

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 09:50 PM

With digital cable, you just push a button and click "order".

Neuqua · 05-05-2007, 09:50 PM

Dang no one was around to head out to the bars to watch this tonight. Anyone know of a place i can get updates?

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 09:52 PM

Floyd Mayweather, Sr. is annoying to listen to. I mean, that's just a bizarre situation with Sr. v. Jr.

Bleh. I hope this fight goes a while or else I'll never do this again.

cartman · 05-05-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Floyd Mayweather, Sr. is annoying to listen to. I mean, that's just a bizarre situation with Sr. v. Jr.

Bleh. I hope this fight goes a while or else I'll never do this again.

Mayweather Sr. needs to stop hanging out with Marion Barry. Seriously, lay off the pipe, dude.

Young Drachma · 05-05-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Mayweather Sr. needs to stop hanging out with Marion Barry. Seriously, lay off the pipe, dude.

Glad you said it. I thought it...

sabotai · 05-05-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I guess Bay Area comcast sucks then

Well it sucks here too. In the 10th round of the first fight (little over an hour ago), it cuts out and it hasn't come back on. Been trying to call since it cut out and it's been busy.

cartman · 05-05-2007, 10:12 PM

The second fight was entertaining as well. I hope the main event can hope to match the intensity of the under cards...

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timmae College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago	I'll be buying and watching. And rooting for De La Hoya to knock the snot out of Mayweather. Does anyone know how many undercards will be shown on the broadcast? I know Jaurez/Hernandez will be shown. Also, $55 isn't much for a few hours of entertainment. Even if the main fight disappoints you'll get a few hours of boxing and commentary if you're watching the undercard bout. Have a few drinks in any bar in Chicago and you're paying more than $55... __________________ Interactive OOTP 15 Dynasty (Single Season) CHAMPION!! Oh yeah... Happy New York Day everyone!

05-05-2007, 02:07 PM	#21
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05-05-2007, 02:31 PM	#23
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Well, considering I can actully go to one (and it's buck night) and the other I'll just be sitting at home watching. I'll take the live sporting event. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-05-2007, 04:53 PM	#32
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05-04-2007, 03:39 PM	#2
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I hear the fight will never end.

05-04-2007, 03:56 PM	#3
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	De La Hoya doesn't fight much anymore, and I thought Mayorga was going to tear him a new one last year (turns out Mayorga was all talk). Not looking good for Oscar again, but who knows?

05-04-2007, 04:34 PM	#4
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Come on Floyd!! Make Grand Rapids proud, and put that nancy boy down.

05-04-2007, 05:12 PM	#6
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I want to see this fight really bad but i refuse to buy it on PPV. I've been burnt too many times by boxing PPV.

05-04-2007, 06:32 PM	#10
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I am getting the fight and will have 2 million of my closest friends watching it with me! Seriously, I have some amigos coming over to play a little 360 before the fight then we'll watch De La Hoya win!

05-04-2007, 08:52 PM	#11
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Mayweather hands down. Have to go with the hometown kid.

05-05-2007, 12:08 AM	#14
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	While I still think Mayweather will win the fight (but I'm hoping Oscar wins), De La Hoya weighed in at the weight limit of 154 and Mayweather weighed in at 150. I'm not sold on the idea that a few pounds, even at that level, makes much of a difference, but if it does, there it is. And for the record, I would much rather pay for a dozen Tyson-Spinks fights than a single John Ruiz fight.

05-05-2007, 11:23 AM	#19
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	UFC > Boxing

05-05-2007, 11:35 AM	#20
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	2 undercards The main event is scheduled to start at 11:30pm EST.

05-05-2007, 09:09 PM	#38
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05-05-2007, 09:18 PM	#39
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05-05-2007, 09:47 PM	#41
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'm half tempted to order this. I probably shouldn't. But I'm tempted.

05-05-2007, 09:49 PM	#43
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I live in Wyoming. There isn't any waiting in line for much of anything here.

05-05-2007, 09:50 PM	#44
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	With digital cable, you just push a button and click "order".

05-05-2007, 09:50 PM	#45
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05-05-2007, 09:52 PM	#46
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Floyd Mayweather, Sr. is annoying to listen to. I mean, that's just a bizarre situation with Sr. v. Jr. Bleh. I hope this fight goes a while or else I'll never do this again.

05-05-2007, 10:12 PM	#50
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The second fight was entertaining as well. I hope the main event can hope to match the intensity of the under cards... __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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