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Old 05-11-2011, 05:25 PM   #401
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So if we started 13-3-3 they would have to get the villagers down to 3 to get a win - that won't be done in 3 days.

not without help at least
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:27 PM   #402
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Oh yeah Pass's Godfather game had 2 teams of 3 each (6 total) that merged when they got down to 3. The vilalge wiped them up then too.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:27 PM   #403
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Yeah, that makes sense - this is the rare game where the village gets to live even if they are temporarily dominated, because the wolves don't have the ability to have an iron-clad majority at that point. So maybe there are six, then, if there is some mechanic like them only getting one night kill per wolf for the game.

Honestly, it'd almost be easier if there were more wolves instead of less, because they won't have a choice but to somehow act in concert, unless they just refuse to talk to each other. Some sort of a pattern is better than nothing. But this is probably just me being a little crazy.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:28 PM   #404
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I had my doubts about you tyrith but these wolf number freakouts really make me think you're a villager.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:29 PM   #405
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I had my doubts about you tyrith but these wolf number freakouts really make me think you're a villager.

Was thinking the same thing, Crimson.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:31 PM   #406
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Raw number of wolves doesn't matter, CF, it's all contextual, based off number of people and game mechanics. We have no information roles that don't involve people dying, which would generally make the game swing towards fewer wolves, not more. But with a non-standard kill mechanic six is definitely much more likely; having six wolves in a 19 person game would just be nutso with standard kills and win conditions, which is what I thinking about.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:33 PM   #407
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Well, if it was me in your chair, I don't know how seriously I'd take me right now - I could be just making up random nonsense. But since I am a villager, I suppose convincing other people of that fact is a good thing.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:37 PM   #408
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Raw number of wolves doesn't matter, CF, it's all contextual, based off number of people and game mechanics. We have no information roles that don't involve people dying, which would generally make the game swing towards fewer wolves, not more. But with a non-standard kill mechanic six is definitely much more likely; having six wolves in a 19 person game would just be nutso with standard kills and win conditions, which is what I thinking about.

Welcome to a new era of werewolf. nutso or not, we have had games of 6 wolves with same total people and standard roles and standard nightkills, no separate wolf groups and everything.It does seem impossible but it isn't. It actually makes it harder for the wolves to hide imho.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:39 PM   #409
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It's true, there are definitely diminishing marginal returns to additional wolves, assuming there's at least a little bit of time to get going. Until the wolves start eating their own on day 1, that is, and then it would all go to garbage. A wolf team tried some stunt like being the first two voters on one of their own on day 1 yet?
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:48 PM   #410
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I haven't a clue about door today. Still crunching numbers. I wonder if there is a way to crunch color
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:49 PM   #411
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Any idea on the door today since I have no idea which one to vote for
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:53 PM   #412
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I'm thinking it's probably a crapshoot again today, and then we take the two days of data and compare/contrast. Although if we wind up in a spike pit or some garbage I'm going to be ticked.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:55 PM   #413
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Really no idea on the door. The more I look, the less sense it seems to make.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:55 PM   #414
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I think Jackal will come up with something more messy than a spike pit.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:55 PM   #415
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Hmmmm... spiked garbage pit...
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:03 PM   #416
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A spike pit, full of garbage. And rats. And clowns. And a vampire. And then the whole thing bursts into flame.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:04 PM   #417
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That's the spirit!
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:06 PM   #418
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Poor flaming clowns.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:21 PM   #419
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Home from work. A lot of posts, but not a whole lot of useful discussion. Though, not sure what exactly there is to go over on day 2
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:22 PM   #420
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And regarding the votes, I am ok with all three candidates we seem to have, but I doubt I'll be changing my vote unless there is a tie situation.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:23 PM   #421
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Wow, I just checked the post counts and Crimson has 85 already lol
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:06 PM   #422
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I think half of them were last night when he was talking to himself.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:08 PM   #423
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They were pretty much all day 2 as well. heh. Whoa dude we passed post 420.

And I was talking to Narcizo and Zinto Unless you consider them nobody.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:09 PM   #424
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4 - dwardzala - Tyrith (267), PackerFanatic (360), J23 (384), hoopsguy (391)
3 - ntndeacon - bhlloy (305), Danny (359), CrimsonFox (390)
2 - Schmidty - Zinto (372), Narcizo (383)
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:37 PM   #425
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I'll be going Maroon door, for no clear reason. Sending the PM now so I don't forget for 2nd day in a row.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:41 PM   #426
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I'll be going yellow I think.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:52 PM   #427
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I'm going yellow just because we didn't go with the prime color yesterday and it bit us... not a good reason but don't see anything else
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:55 PM   #428
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I'll probably be going whatever is least popular among us as if we split it it leaves the other thread with a bigger impact in case they figured it out.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:09 PM   #429
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I am going yellow. I don't see any rhyme or reason behind the doors at this point.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:18 PM   #430
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Going with what I said, I sent in my vote for brown.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:22 PM   #431
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I sent in my vote for yellow also hopefully it is the correct door or we are going to be in trouble.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:41 PM   #432
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So its 4-3 dward right now? I'm considering switching to distance it out a little bit. Who knows if someone in other thread voted Dward.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #433
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Other thread can't vote for dward. They can only vote for someone in here.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:44 PM   #434
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Was considering voting dward myself tho since things seem settled and I still don't know about things. Currently there is tie potential. Were you guys happy to leave that possibility being exposed? (aka wolf vote funny business)
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:45 PM   #435
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Going to be a bit late in the posting tonight, fyi.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:47 PM   #436
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Other thread can't vote for dward. They can only vote for someone in here.

Oh, alright then. The two Schmidty voters said they wouldn't be around for deadline? I'm not sure I like those votes there at this late point.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #437
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I'm surprised there is such little activity leading up to deadline.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:52 PM   #438
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Zinto was just here and Narc...well...he's asleep.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:52 PM   #439
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yeah another day of nothing. no movement at all.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:53 PM   #440
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are the wolves trying to create a tie is what i'm wondering.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:54 PM   #441
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Unvote ntn
Vote Dwardzala


I'll remove the chance of a tie.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:55 PM   #442
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Yeah I don't like the idea of a potential tie one bit. I'm not leaving it at just one vote with a couple of guys who might not be back for deadline. Either candidate seems fine to me.

Unvote ntndeacon
vote dwardzala
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:55 PM   #443
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fine.
unvote ntndeacon
vote dwardzala
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:55 PM   #444
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well shit Danny... I even hit refresh lol
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:55 PM   #445
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lol
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #446
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ok that's fricking ridiculous

unvote dwardzala
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #447
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I'm not comfortable with that run at all, seeing as the wolves are the only ones who can go between two threads and direct the vote
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:57 PM   #448
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i didn't see you guys do that at all.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:58 PM   #449
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Except Crimson and I both made our intentions to possibly do that clear well in advance.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:59 PM   #450
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yup. I was about to do it anyway since I was worried about it. The others were settled on dward so I"d rather have a no tie situation and a high vote total as I've kept saying.
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