2011 NFL Training Camp/Preseason Thread - Page 5

Ksyrup · 08-26-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Its sad watching your favorite team draft someone you absolutely want nothing to do with.

Welcome to my Broncos hell.

Ksyrup · 08-26-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Hopefully with the new slotting system we don't see huge reaches on quarterbacks like this as often.

I'm not sure I follow - if it's going to cost a team less money to take a flyer on a high-risk/high-reward guy, wouldn't we expect see this more often, not less? Or are you acknowledging that and just hoping it doesn't happen?

DeToxRox · 08-27-2011, 07:38 PM

Maurkice Pouncey hurt his ankle again it looks like.

DeToxRox · 08-27-2011, 07:57 PM

Arian Foster left the Texans game tonight as well. Report is he was walking very deliberately.

Re-aggravated his hamstring injury apparently.

Thomkal · 08-27-2011, 09:48 PM

And Kevin Kolb finally gets his first TD with my beloved Cards. And a sweet one it is, an 80 yd TD play with Fitzgerald. And then on the next series for the Chargers, rookie 1st round pick CB Peterson intercepts a Rivers pass and runs it in for the Touchdown!

duckman · 08-29-2011, 07:16 PM

You got to be kidding me:

Philadelphia Eagles, Michael Vick reach 6-year, $100M deal, source says - ESPN

Lathum · 08-29-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

You got to be kidding me:

Philadelphia Eagles, Michael Vick reach 6-year, $100M deal, source says - ESPN

yeah, I hate to see him get paid

Shkspr · 08-29-2011, 09:00 PM

Yeah, but it would have been $160 million if Michael Vick was white.

stevew · 08-29-2011, 09:08 PM

I think he's paid well enough so that he doesn't need to fight dogs for money anymore.

gstelmack · 08-30-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

yeah, I hate to see him get paid

I hate to see a team throw that much money at a guy whose QB style gets him killed on a regular basis. It was pointed out that he has not played a complete season since 2006. He did have a good year last year, granted, but seems like a huge risk.

I also think Peyton Manning's contract was a huge risk, and wouldn't hand Brady an extension like that either right now.

Sublime 2 · 08-30-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I hate to see a team throw that much money at a guy whose QB style gets him killed on a regular basis. It was pointed out that he has not played a complete season since 2006. He did have a good year last year, granted, but seems like a huge risk.

I also think Peyton Manning's contract was a huge risk, and wouldn't hand Brady an extension like that either right now.

I think it may have been difficult for him to get on the field in 07 and 08, which isn't to say I disagree.

Coffee Warlord · 08-30-2011, 09:35 AM

The Bears front office has become so incompetent they can't even cut a guy properly. See: Chester Taylor.

cuervo72 · 08-30-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I hate to see a team throw that much money at a guy whose QB style gets him killed on a regular basis. It was pointed out that he has not played a complete season since 2006. He did have a good year last year, granted, but seems like a huge risk.

Thomkal · 08-30-2011, 10:05 AM

my beloved Cards get unlucky again-after trading Hightower, they lost Matthews for the season. Now after trading Rodgers-Cromartie, they have lost starting CB Toler for the season.

Meaning that rookie 1st round pick Peterson will have to start, which wasn't something the Cards wanted so soon.

johnnyshaka · 08-30-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

yeah, I hate to see him get paid

Actually, looks like Vick isn't really the one getting paid:

New Contract Means Vick's Creditors Can Get All Their Money Back By 2014 - CNBC

I hope this is how it works and that most of this money goes to where it's supposed to go. Granted, Vick does deserve a paycheck for what he does on the field and he will be getting a pretty darn nice one (by "average Joe" standards at least), don't get me wrong, but at least this could turn a really big "wrong" into a "right" at the end of the day.

QuikSand · 08-30-2011, 02:43 PM

Maybe the Bengals could go grab Tony Pike and try to hold on to him as a #3/practice guy this year. They surely could do worse.

Arles · 08-31-2011, 03:20 PM

Looks like Foster could be out 3-4 weeks with a slight hamstring tear according to John Clayton. Nothing's 100%, but you may want to make plans if you have him in FF. Not sure who the immediate starter would be between Tate and Ward, but you may want to scramble and get one. In the one league I have him, I grabbed both guys at the end of the draft. It's a bit of a mess.

Logan · 08-31-2011, 04:23 PM

Foster says he's fine. So does his mom.

johnnyshaka · 09-01-2011, 02:07 PM

Chris Johnson robbed a bank in Nashville.

Matthean · 09-01-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Chris Johnson robbed a bank in Nashville.

Wonder if his fake fans will shut up.

Chris Johnson would like his ‘fake fans’ to … um … ‘pipe down’ - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Julio Riddols · 09-01-2011, 03:53 PM

He'd been casing the place for over a year, so I guess its good he finally did the job.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-01-2011, 11:21 PM

Love seeing Aldon Smith perform up to expectations for San Francisco thus far. He's an athletic freak and a really good kid as well.

sabotai · 09-01-2011, 11:39 PM

I was thinking the Giants might have an 8-8 year, and I may be downgrading that to 7-9 or 6-10. The defense is already in critical condition with all of the injuries. Now LB Clint Sintim is out for the year. Technically a backup, but mainly so because he was coming off a serious injury from last year. I thought the guy was good enough to be a starter, but now he's gone and the Giants defensive depth gets that much thinner.

Sintim out for year with 'devastating' knee injury | New York Daily News

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-01-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

my beloved Cards get unlucky again-after trading Hightower, they lost Matthews for the season. Now after trading Rodgers-Cromartie, they have lost starting CB Toler for the season.

Meaning that rookie 1st round pick Peterson will have to start, which wasn't something the Cards wanted so soon.

Do you mean "Williams?" They lost Ryan Williams for the season. Ain't no Matthews on the team.

Lathum · 09-01-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I was thinking the Giants might have an 8-8 year, and I may be downgrading that to 7-9 or 6-10. The defense is already in critical condition with all of the injuries. Now LB Clint Sintim is out for the year. Technically a backup, but mainly so because he was coming off a serious injury from last year. I thought the guy was good enough to be a starter, but now he's gone and the Giants defensive depth gets that much thinner.

Sintim out for year with 'devastating' knee injury | New York Daily News

I'm trying to be optimistic, but I can see a 7-2 or 6-3 start with the early schedule. If they can get some guys back and get the new guys up to speed I think 9-7 is realistic. The final 7 games are brutal.

Thomkal · 09-02-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Do you mean "Williams?" They lost Ryan Williams for the season. Ain't no Matthews on the team.

sorry yes that's what I meant thanks for the correction

wade moore · 09-02-2011, 07:46 AM

Latum: Any thoughts on Adrian Tracy's chances to make the roster?

Dutch · 09-02-2011, 08:34 AM

Probably the most exciting pre-season football game I've ever watched last night between the Bucs and the Redskins. I'm not sure if WR Ed Gant makes the team based on that performance alone, but at least he'll know he did everthing in his power in the last pre-season game to give the coaches something to think about. Awesome performance by a lot of Bucs that are on the fence.

I'm continually amazed at the environment that Coach Morris is creating in Tampa right now. They are the youngest team in the NFL and it's going to be a fun ride this year.

But as fun as that pre-season game was...enough...let's get this party started for real.

cuervo72 · 09-02-2011, 08:50 AM

That actually was a pretty entertaining game.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-02-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

I'm continually amazed at the environment that Coach Morris is creating in Tampa right now. They are the youngest team in the NFL and it's going to be a fun ride this year.

But as fun as that pre-season game was...enough...let's get this party started for real.

Let's hope you don't get your party started until Week 2.

Suburban Rhythm · 09-02-2011, 04:11 PM

Colts hire*Jim Tressel as game-day consultant - NFL - SI.com

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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Jim Tressel is heading to the NFL.
The disgraced Ohio State head coach was hired Friday by the Indianapolis Colts as a game-day consultant to help determine when the team should challenge plays. Coach Jim Caldwell said it was a position he's wanted to fill for the past couple of years.

Pretty good gig if you can get paid for it.

mckerney · 09-02-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Colts hire*Jim Tressel as game-day consultant - NFL - SI.com

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Pretty good gig if you can get paid for it.[/left]

No suspension from Goodell?

Rizon · 09-02-2011, 04:45 PM

Dunno if this has been mentioned before in this thread, but I keep seeing NFL commercials that talk about "how exciting kickoff returns are".

bhlloy · 09-02-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

No suspension from Goodell?

How strange

RainMaker · 09-03-2011, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

No suspension from Goodell?

Shouldn't the NFLPA be up in arms?

RedKingGold · 09-03-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Shouldn't the NFLPA be up in arms?

On Friday, George Atallah (Asst. Executive Director of NFLPA) tweeted, "The NFLPA will be watching the Jim Tressell [sic] situation with interest."

molson · 09-03-2011, 10:18 AM

I think there is a difference. Wasn't the issue the abuse of the supplemental draft process? If Pryor had been suspended for 5 games (or the entire season), and then declared for the regular draft instead of coming back, he wouldn't have had a problem. It's really not about the NFL enforcing collegiate penalties, the 5 games was more of a supplemental draft abuse compromise -when he really should have been precluded from that draft entirely. The NFL doesn't want players to just choose the supplemental draft when nothing happens to change their collegiate status since the entry deadline for the regular draft.

jeff061 · 09-03-2011, 03:23 PM

So Sanders and Meriweather gone. Sanders was a surprise and I didn't think they'd be ditching both of them. Wonder what the plan is there.

Dutch · 09-04-2011, 08:40 AM

The new NFL rule is seeing a lot of QB3's getting cut. So the Bucs cut promising "noodle-arm" Rudy Carpenter.

Sad to see WR Ed Gant get the ax, but perhaps his 6-3 200lbs frame will get him a look on another 53-man roster? Otherwise, at least I know he'll be on our practice squad.

LB Tyrone McKenzie also got the ax, our backup MLB? He was instrumental in leading off-season workouts, was developing into a team leader, and played very well in the pre-season....possible chemistry mismatch with MLB Foster???

k0ruptr · 09-05-2011, 02:01 AM

Huge rumor just hit my inbox, Manning needs another procedure/surgery on his neck and is out indefinitely. Again just a rumor at this point, but it makes sense to me.

k0ruptr · 09-05-2011, 02:03 AM

Huge for the colts, and even Kerry Collins for Fantasy purposes.

ColtCrazy · 09-05-2011, 06:36 AM

Ugh....lots of rumors circulating about Manning. The neck thing is at least getting a second eval, which at the very least means it's not healing like it should. At this point, I would safely guess he's out week 1 and probably till at least week 3. If he has another surgery, you can tank this season. Ugh. Steelers, Pats, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Texans twice, and the Ravens all on the sked too.

This is why I never made fun of Brady's injury in 08 because I would have hated seeing my QB go down. Now it might be coming true.

I stuck with the Colts through the Jeff George 1-15 year in 1991. It won't be as bad as that team at least, but talk about a possible waste of Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon...the best foursome I've ever seen play in Indy.

Though I will be watching the Pack if I want to catch some good QB play!

albionmoonlight · 09-05-2011, 06:55 AM

As a football fan generally, I hate to see a player like Manning injured. Also, I am not a doctor, but you don't f around with necks. He has his ring, and his first ballot HOF locked up. And a long career in media or business in front of him. Certainly not worth him risking his long term health if this does not clear up.

ColtCrazy · 09-05-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

As a football fan generally, I hate to see a player like Manning injured. Also, I am not a doctor, but you don't f around with necks. He has his ring, and his first ballot HOF locked up. And a long career in media or business in front of him. Certainly not worth him risking his long term health if this does not clear up.

I would think he's smart enough to know that as well. And, as much as I don't want to think about it, if the Manning era ends I can say it was one helluva ride. I just hope there's a few more years left in it. But reality is that it's his second run in with neck issues, he's 35, and at some point you have to wonder if he wants to keep risking it. As good as Manning is, even with him I think this Colts team has too many holes defensively and on the offensive line to seriously contend in a crowded AFC. Without him, we are a 5-6 win team.

Sweed · 09-05-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

I would think he's smart enough to know that as well. And, as much as I don't want to think about it, if the Manning era ends I can say it was one helluva ride. I just hope there's a few more years left in it. But reality is that it's his second run in with neck issues, he's 35, and at some point you have to wonder if he wants to keep risking it. As good as Manning is, even with him I think this Colts team has too many holes defensively and on the offensive line to seriously contend in a crowded AFC. Without him, we are a 5-6 win team.

Just trying to make lemonade here but with no Manning maybe you get lucky, the wheels fall off, you win one or two, and end up with Luck.

BillJasper · 09-05-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

Just trying to make lemonade here but with no Manning maybe you get lucky, the wheels fall off, you win one or two, and end up with Luck.

And get rid of that coaching staff to boot. None of them seem too bright.

Thomkal · 09-05-2011, 11:08 AM

Hey Radii, (and other Carolina Panther fans)

See the Panthers have cut DE Everette Brown-who they traded a 1st rounder for a couple years back so they could get up in the second round to take him. GM Marty Hurney should be following him out the door I think too...

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-05-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

And get rid of that coaching staff to boot. None of them seem too bright.

Well, they did hire Jim Tressel, so they obviously know what they are doing.

k0ruptr · 09-05-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Hey Radii, (and other Carolina Panther fans)

See the Panthers have cut DE Everette Brown-who they traded a 1st rounder for a couple years back so they could get up in the second round to take him. GM Marty Hurney should be following him out the door I think too...

yea, saw this and it fairly surprised me. guess the hype wasn't talent.

Radii · 09-05-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

yea, saw this and it fairly surprised me. guess the hype wasn't talent.

Yeah I'm surprised as well, and have to wonder what has to happen for Hurney to keep his job this year.

08-27-2011, 07:57 PM	#204
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Arian Foster left the Texans game tonight as well. Report is he was walking very deliberately. Re-aggravated his hamstring injury apparently. Last edited by DeToxRox : 08-27-2011 at 08:17 PM.

08-31-2011, 03:20 PM	#217
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Looks like Foster could be out 3-4 weeks with a slight hamstring tear according to John Clayton. Nothing's 100%, but you may want to make plans if you have him in FF. Not sure who the immediate starter would be between Tate and Ward, but you may want to scramble and get one. In the one league I have him, I grabbed both guys at the end of the draft. It's a bit of a mess. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com Last edited by Arles : 08-31-2011 at 03:28 PM.

09-01-2011, 03:53 PM	#221
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	He'd been casing the place for over a year, so I guess its good he finally did the job. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

09-02-2011, 08:50 AM	#229
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	That actually was a pretty entertaining game. __________________ null

09-03-2011, 10:18 AM	#237
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think there is a difference. Wasn't the issue the abuse of the supplemental draft process? If Pryor had been suspended for 5 games (or the entire season), and then declared for the regular draft instead of coming back, he wouldn't have had a problem. It's really not about the NFL enforcing collegiate penalties, the 5 games was more of a supplemental draft abuse compromise -when he really should have been precluded from that draft entirely. The NFL doesn't want players to just choose the supplemental draft when nothing happens to change their collegiate status since the entry deadline for the regular draft. Last edited by molson : 09-03-2011 at 10:24 AM.

08-27-2011, 07:38 PM	#203
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Maurkice Pouncey hurt his ankle again it looks like.

08-27-2011, 09:48 PM	#205
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And Kevin Kolb finally gets his first TD with my beloved Cards. And a sweet one it is, an 80 yd TD play with Fitzgerald. And then on the next series for the Chargers, rookie 1st round pick CB Peterson intercepts a Rivers pass and runs it in for the Touchdown!

08-29-2011, 09:00 PM	#208
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	Yeah, but it would have been $160 million if Michael Vick was white.

08-29-2011, 09:08 PM	#209
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I think he's paid well enough so that he doesn't need to fight dogs for money anymore.

08-30-2011, 09:35 AM	#212
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The Bears front office has become so incompetent they can't even cut a guy properly. See: Chester Taylor.

08-30-2011, 10:05 AM	#214
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	my beloved Cards get unlucky again-after trading Hightower, they lost Matthews for the season. Now after trading Rodgers-Cromartie, they have lost starting CB Toler for the season. Meaning that rookie 1st round pick Peterson will have to start, which wasn't something the Cards wanted so soon.

08-30-2011, 02:43 PM	#216
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Maybe the Bengals could go grab Tony Pike and try to hold on to him as a #3/practice guy this year. They surely could do worse.

08-31-2011, 04:23 PM	#218
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Foster says he's fine. So does his mom.

09-01-2011, 02:07 PM	#219
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Chris Johnson robbed a bank in Nashville.

09-01-2011, 11:21 PM	#222
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Love seeing Aldon Smith perform up to expectations for San Francisco thus far. He's an athletic freak and a really good kid as well.

09-01-2011, 11:39 PM	#223
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I was thinking the Giants might have an 8-8 year, and I may be downgrading that to 7-9 or 6-10. The defense is already in critical condition with all of the injuries. Now LB Clint Sintim is out for the year. Technically a backup, but mainly so because he was coming off a serious injury from last year. I thought the guy was good enough to be a starter, but now he's gone and the Giants defensive depth gets that much thinner. Sintim out for year with 'devastating' knee injury \| New York Daily News

09-02-2011, 08:34 AM	#228
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Probably the most exciting pre-season football game I've ever watched last night between the Bucs and the Redskins. I'm not sure if WR Ed Gant makes the team based on that performance alone, but at least he'll know he did everthing in his power in the last pre-season game to give the coaches something to think about. Awesome performance by a lot of Bucs that are on the fence. I'm continually amazed at the environment that Coach Morris is creating in Tampa right now. They are the youngest team in the NFL and it's going to be a fun ride this year. But as fun as that pre-season game was...enough...let's get this party started for real.

09-03-2011, 03:23 PM	#238
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	So Sanders and Meriweather gone. Sanders was a surprise and I didn't think they'd be ditching both of them. Wonder what the plan is there. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 09-03-2011 at 03:23 PM.

09-04-2011, 08:40 AM	#239
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	The new NFL rule is seeing a lot of QB3's getting cut. So the Bucs cut promising "noodle-arm" Rudy Carpenter. Sad to see WR Ed Gant get the ax, but perhaps his 6-3 200lbs frame will get him a look on another 53-man roster? Otherwise, at least I know he'll be on our practice squad. LB Tyrone McKenzie also got the ax, our backup MLB? He was instrumental in leading off-season workouts, was developing into a team leader, and played very well in the pre-season....possible chemistry mismatch with MLB Foster???

09-05-2011, 02:01 AM	#240
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Huge rumor just hit my inbox, Manning needs another procedure/surgery on his neck and is out indefinitely. Again just a rumor at this point, but it makes sense to me. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-05-2011, 02:03 AM	#241
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Huge for the colts, and even Kerry Collins for Fantasy purposes. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-05-2011, 06:36 AM	#242
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Ugh....lots of rumors circulating about Manning. The neck thing is at least getting a second eval, which at the very least means it's not healing like it should. At this point, I would safely guess he's out week 1 and probably till at least week 3. If he has another surgery, you can tank this season. Ugh. Steelers, Pats, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Texans twice, and the Ravens all on the sked too. This is why I never made fun of Brady's injury in 08 because I would have hated seeing my QB go down. Now it might be coming true. I stuck with the Colts through the Jeff George 1-15 year in 1991. It won't be as bad as that team at least, but talk about a possible waste of Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon...the best foursome I've ever seen play in Indy. Though I will be watching the Pack if I want to catch some good QB play! __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

09-05-2011, 06:55 AM	#243
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	As a football fan generally, I hate to see a player like Manning injured. Also, I am not a doctor, but you don't f around with necks. He has his ring, and his first ballot HOF locked up. And a long career in media or business in front of him. Certainly not worth him risking his long term health if this does not clear up.

09-05-2011, 11:08 AM	#247
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Hey Radii, (and other Carolina Panther fans) See the Panthers have cut DE Everette Brown-who they traded a 1st rounder for a couple years back so they could get up in the second round to take him. GM Marty Hurney should be following him out the door I think too...

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