Werewolf 107, Terror at Blizzcon, Basic Game, GAME OVER, HORDE WINS

[KWhit]

Did anybody put together vote totals from Day 3?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Did anybody put together vote totals from Day 3?

There is a near completed total a few minutes prior to deadline with only a few switchs that would need to be added. I can post one shen I get home.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Spleen - I'd love for you to answer my question about why I wouldn't try to save the cunning with a vote on day 1 - I think my lack of vote provided a fair amount of analysis in that respect.

I'm off to lunch now, back later for more conversation.

Damn you!

You forced me to go back and take a look at Day 1. What I see changes my mind here. I don't think I want to vote for you. I need to do some more looking before I switch my vote.

[Autumn]

Actually looking back at day one votes, i have a harder time thinking Render/Dubb is bad, though I'm not ruling it out. I think a more likely target is RealDeal though there's nothing hard on him. I have to think the wolves would be working at getting Darth out of the voting limelight though.

UNVOTE RENDER
VOTE REALDEAL

[J23]

Back to being slammed w/ work. I'm not sure I'll be able to participate as much today as the last couple days. I'll try to get on when I get home from work and do some more digging and throw up a vote.

[MartinD]

Vote count up to post 854:

RendeR: PurdueBrad (818)
RealDeal: Poli (822), The Jackal (826), Autumn (854)
The Jackal: spleen1015 (828)

[MartinD]

I'll just screw up my own vote count...

VOTE REALDEAL

Justification hasn't changed since yesterday - his decision to not participate in the 'mass tie' plan makes me very suspicious.

[CrimsonFox]

VOTE REALDEAL

[RealDeal]

Frustrating that people would vote for me bc I had the stones to state the truth on the mass tie. Dumb reason.

Just for this, I pledge that in all future WW games I will purposely thwart under all circumstances and in every way possible, all attempts at mechanical vote manipulation or choreography whether I am a wolf or villager.

And when I do, if someone complains, I will post a link to this game.

[saldana]

sorry i havent been around guys, if i had know that this week would be what it is at work, i probably wouldnt have played.

RD, the problem i have right now is that the plan WAS working, and when you saw that, you still didnt want to help...i can understand sticking to your guns, but your defiance despite evidence to the contrary is really making it hard for me not to vote you.

vote realdeal

[J23]

Here are the two posts that RD made regarding the plan for refernce:

Originally Posted by RealDeal

I'll go on and tell everyone I'm not going to do the 15 way 1 vote tie. It's too hard to pull off at this time and we'll just blow it like we blew the tie yesterday.

Later in the game when we have fewer players we can do this, but it's too much logistically right now.

Call me a wolf, whatever, but I'm not going to waste my time on a WW game dedicated to a voting circle jerk.

Originally Posted by RealDeal

Just to be clear, I think the warlock plan is good, just not when we have to coordinate more than a dozen votes. If I happen to survive to when we are down to 5-6 people, I'll gladly participate. At this point, however, I just want to play the freaking game.

I can understand thinking that the vote manipulation is a bit meta-gamey, but that didn't appear to be your reasoning at the time. Why else would you say you'd do it once the # of people got whittled down?

[Schmidty]

I guess any other vote wouldn't matter at this point:

Vote RealDeal

[The Jackal]

I'm kind of surprised the focus has been entirely on RD and there's been little to no attention on J, who a lot of people wanted to see in a race with clap yesterday. Just food for thought whether or not RD comes up wolf.

[Poli]

I didn't think this would be a runaway on rd myself. It was kind of a coin flip for me

[RendeR]

Lets get a second candidate involved in this:

Vote Jackal

[KWhit]

Well, I don't really have any reason to suspect that The Jackal is a wolf. I admit that his no-vote on day 1 makes his history less than ideal, but other than that he's done nothing to cast suspicion on himself.

I don't like the runaway, but I feel much better about voting RD than Jackal.

VOTE REALDEAL

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Lets get a second candidate involved in this:

Vote Jackal

Going to give a reason? Didn't notice the only person voting for me thinks voting for me is a bad idea?

Good job shooting up my radar.

[Lathum]

Day 3 Final Vote Count

Clap-10- Poli (677), Spleen (687) Autumn (688), J23 (724) Saldana (729), Kwhit (748),Martin (766) Schidty (770), Render (774) PB (778)
J23-1- Realdeal (720)
Realdeal-1-Jackal (717)
CF-1-GE (792)
Render-1- CF (772)
__________________

[Lathum]

Note- The above is day 3 that people were asking for, we are in day 4 currently

[J23]

Haven't really found anything compelling on anyone else.

Vote RealDeal

[Lathum]

Vote count

RealDeal-9-Poli (822)Jackal (826), Autumn (854), MartinD (857),CF (858), Saldana (860), Schmidty (862), Kwhit (866)J23 (870)

Jackal-2-Spleen (828), Render (865)

Render-1-PB (818)

[J23]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm kind of surprised the focus has been entirely on RD and there's been little to no attention on J, who a lot of people wanted to see in a race with clap yesterday. Just food for thought whether or not RD comes up wolf.

I'm surprised as well frankly.

[spleen1015]

At this point, I'm not prepared to move my vote. I saw some things today, but I saw lots of contradictions. So, I'm not sure what is what. I am going to stick to what I started today. My vote is staying.

[Poli]

I really don't like how rd's getting piled on and there's been little resistance
to it. Maybe tomorrow I'll ping render or j23

[Poli]

Ive been wondering what spleens up to as well, but that might very well just be I haven't played with spleen before.

[Poli]

Curious to ask, did schmidty have a
role in the last game?

[J23]

Everyone had a role last game.

[EagleFan]

[Autumn]

Runaways aren't that great. If someone's got another good candidate, let's hear it.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by J23

Everyone had a role last game.

gotcha.

[EagleFan]

You guys got boring after day ...

[EagleFan]

day 2 that was supposed to say...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

You guys got boring after day ...

is this proper English?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Runaways aren't that great. If someone's got another good candidate, let's hear it.

I'd offer j23 up, but that's about all I got.

[RealDeal]

Runaways are particularly bad when they kill villagers. Exactly what will you have learned from today when this over?

We are definitely missing some of the A-team WW players this game.

[The Jackal]

KWhit - I've been watching the Flyers/Thrashers game (on the Atlanta feed) and keep seeing the commercial.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Poli

I'd offer j23 up, but that's about all I got.

Yeah. J23 is my other candidate as well. I'm not going to change to him tonight though.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

KWhit - I've been watching the Flyers/Thrashers game (on the Atlanta feed) and keep seeing the commercial.

Yeah. It's on a lot.

[The Jackal]

If you are indeed a villager, RD, then we'll know the wolves have all been laying low and have that sort of info to work with. It's unfortunate we've had all these runaways, though.

Just think, if you had followed the plan, maybe we WOULDNT have had a runaway.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah. It's on a lot.

But I'll tell Mrs. KWhit. She'll like that.

[RealDeal]

Originally Posted by saldana

sorry i havent been around guys, if i had know that this week would be what it is at work, i probably wouldnt have played.

RD, the problem i have right now is that the plan WAS working, and when you saw that, you still didnt want to help...i can understand sticking to your guns, but your defiance despite evidence to the contrary is really making it hard for me not to vote you.

vote realdeal

And since I'm about to die, I just want to set the record straight. This didn't work AT ALL. You already had 4 people that had already voted, a couple of which didn't visit the thread for the rest of the day. Then you guys thought you had engineered a 3 way tie, and then right before the deadline a bunch of people switched votes like a chinese fire drill, and then the next day you lynched a guy for switching a vote at the end, and he turned out a villager, and today you lynched a guy for telling you up front it was a dumb plan, and I am a villager too.

So exactly what worked about this plan? The wolves must be laughing their asses off right now.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

If you are indeed a villager, RD, then we'll know the wolves have all been laying low and have that sort of info to work with. It's unfortunate we've had all these runaways, though.

Just think, if you had followed the plan, maybe we WOULDNT have had a runaway.

Exactly, this is why I don't like plays like that from villagers. Painting a target on yourself because you're stubborn doesn't help the village out, it usually costs them at least a full day to get past it.

[Poli]

Anyone got an opinion on spleen?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Poli

Anyone got an opinion on spleen?

Am I biased? He's been pretty UTR and even after agreeing that I wasn't a great candidate because of my day 1 no-vote (because of the whole i'd never ever not vote when a cunning wolf was on the line if i was a wolf) - he still hasn't moved his vote. So I'm certainly suspicious, but I'll let people who he isn't targeting provide some opinions.

[Lathum]

Deadline

[Lathum]

You all decide based on his willingness to not participate in "Operation Warlock" Realdeal must be a wolf. You string him up and lynch him. Then wait, and wait, and wait....

RD was an vanilla villager

[The Jackal]

Meh.

[The Jackal]

I think this game is a perfect example of what not to do as a vanilla villager.

[KWhit]

Sigh.

[Autumn]

blah