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Old 03-19-2009, 05:10 PM   #251
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Peregrine, how are you leaning right now?
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:16 PM   #252
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Looks like another one of our epic showdowns...which will probably end up in nothing more than two villagers.

Sigh.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:22 PM   #253
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Peregrine, how are you leaning right now?

To be honest I'm not that great with either option. I just think it's unlikely that PB with an early vote on Day 1 would have pegged a wolf - I mean, he knows that Day 1 is really unpredictable and bandwagons can easily form - anything can happen. And to me the fact that he didn't change his votes around later when it seemed more likely that Abe might die is another indicator of that. That's just me though.

Danny, you're one of the more active people right now and I'm reluctant to pull the trigger there, at the moment anyway.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:27 PM   #254
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That's a fair point, I suppose.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:28 PM   #255
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Actually, I wouldn't suppose. Sounds logical.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #256
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This might turn out to be too early, but I have to leave, it's a tie vote, and unless this a villager/villager showdown, the wolves will likely be able to make sure I am lynched. And Abe is the result and is good, then I am an almost sure fire lynch tomorrow. I'm also not a very important role.

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Old 03-19-2009, 05:36 PM   #257
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:36 PM   #258
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:41 PM   #259
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I knew it.


you know?


unvote danny
vote telle
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:44 PM   #260
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Hey, don't take that out of context!
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:01 PM   #261
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If that's true (Danny's reveal), one person can confirm it.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:01 PM   #262
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Interesting, claphamsa. Telle was the second vote on Abe yesterday, the "jump-on" vote, and voted for him again today, hit and run style. Also has been very quiet the whole game. Sounds like a good option since I don't like the other two.

vote telle
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:03 PM   #263
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If that's true (Danny's reveal), one person can confirm it.

That would be a bad move by my husband, but if I'm not then the real Stella would speak up.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:05 PM   #264
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im off hopefully this turns out well
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:07 PM   #265
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cheif, exactly, but no real point in doing it now.... worst comes to worst we revisit in a day or 2!
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:08 PM   #266
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Why would it be a bad move? You guys (assuming you're telling the truth) have no abilities except for being able to PM each other. Your primary good is as revealed and confirmed villagers. I don't put much stock in the value of your PM discussions, I admit. Not saying there isn't value there, but there is more value in being outed. It drastically decreases the pool for us to find wolves.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:09 PM   #267
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cheif, exactly, but no real point in doing it now.... worst comes to worst we revisit in a day or 2!

I must admit I missed the telle thing. What's that about? I am researching something else right now, so I don't want to go do another search if you or Peregrine could just point it out for me.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:16 PM   #268
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:17 PM   #269
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Not ready to give Danny a pass for this reveal. I am going to vote for him for him for now to put the pressure back on and see what comes up.

VOTE DANNY
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:43 PM   #270
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Wow, so no one's saying or doing anything?
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:51 PM   #271
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Hmm, only the moderator knows what happens in a tie. I myself don't know that either choice is a good one. If no one else is going to move their vote, I am tyhinking of keeping mine here, and leaving it up to the fates. I can seal Abe's doom, though, by switching off of Danny (or switching to Abe).

But I would have thought we have more commentary from people now, and we also have two no votes so far, by my count (KWhit, Pass).
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:52 PM   #272
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This might turn out to be too early, but I have to leave, it's a tie vote, and unless this a villager/villager showdown, the wolves will likely be able to make sure I am lynched. And Abe is the result and is good, then I am an almost sure fire lynch tomorrow. I'm also not a very important role.

I am Stella, the estranged wife.

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Old 03-19-2009, 06:54 PM   #273
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Hmm two no votes, and Kwhit came in with the clincher with 2 minutes left last night - wonder if he'll do it again tonight.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:56 PM   #274
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Why would it be a bad move? You guys (assuming you're telling the truth) have no abilities except for being able to PM each other. Your primary good is as revealed and confirmed villagers. I don't put much stock in the value of your PM discussions, I admit. Not saying there isn't value there, but there is more value in being outed. It drastically decreases the pool for us to find wolves.

The husband can find the master vampire AND would kill the master vampire if he is attacked by him at night. That would be a potentially big thing for the wolves to know, that way they don't send the master vampire out to do that kill.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:59 PM   #275
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The husband can find the master vampire AND would kill the master vampire if he is attacked by him at night. That would be a potentially big thing for the wolves to know, that way they don't send the master vampire out to do that kill.

You're right. I missed that. Okay, definitely the hubby should not reveal.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #276
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Not changing off Abe here, I think the PB vote was clearly an attempt to signal the wolves. Especiallly since his reason was one which would not cause anyone else to pile on.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:03 PM   #277
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Not changing off Abe here, I think the PB vote was clearly an attempt to signal the wolves. Especiallly since his reason was one which would not cause anyone else to pile on.

You could very well be right. I'm not so sure it's so cut and dry. I know a lot was made of PB not resisting the lynch. Was he even around late yesterday? I wasn't around to see.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:03 PM   #278
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Wow, so no one's saying or doing anything?
Not sure there's anything to say. Not sure your 'pressure' could pressure either. Both said they wouldn't be here at the deadline. The only pressure you could have applied is if the vamps/wolves were concerned that either were a vamp/wolf and might get lynched. I suspect we would have seen a late swing of votes in that case.

Since we didn't, I suspect both Abe and Danny are villagers.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:05 PM   #279
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You could very well be right. I'm not so sure it's so cut and dry. I know a lot was made of PB not resisting the lynch. Was he even around late yesterday? I wasn't around to see.


He posted at 7:21 last night and had 3 votes to abe's 2 at that point.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:06 PM   #280
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Not sure there's anything to say. Not sure your 'pressure' could pressure either. Both said they wouldn't be here at the deadline. The only pressure you could have applied is if the vamps/wolves were concerned that either were a vamp/wolf and might get lynched. I suspect we would have seen a late swing of votes in that case.

Since we didn't, I suspect both Abe and Danny are villagers.

Yeah, that was my point, in the hopes a tie would pressure movement and give us something to chew on with the results, amybe give us more candidates. If indeed they are both villagers after all, we could be sitting here, the butts of silent wolf laughter as we agonziae over these two candidates.

Deadline, BTW. Anyone seen The Jackal?
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:07 PM   #281
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He posted at 7:21 last night and had 3 votes to abe's 2 at that point.

He was already on Abe, though, right?
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:09 PM   #282
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He was already on Abe, though, right?

Yeah, but I have never seen PB go quietly without at least a fake reveal when he is on the side of the wolves. Maybe he has and I haven't noticed but usually he goes out kicking.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:13 PM   #283
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:13 PM   #284
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Yeah, but I have never seen PB go quietly without at least a fake reveal when he is on the side of the wolves. Maybe he has and I haven't noticed but usually he goes out kicking.

Interesting. Probably because work kept me from being around the "day to day" posting in past games, I don't specifically remember a style for PB in these situations. It's quite possible he was just okay with being lynched, too, since he knew he wasn't a wolf. But there is something to what you're saying here.

One thing that has me sketchy a little on you, though, is that you so quickly piled on the third vote on Abe, today. I think what you have here is plausible, but I admit I have been trying to resolve that out of the gate vote run on Abe all day. Just doesn't settle right.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:17 PM   #285
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Gah, sorry I missed the vote -- car trouble. Think I can still get one in? What's the situation?
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:17 PM   #286
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:18 PM   #287
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Interesting. Probably because work kept me from being around the "day to day" posting in past games, I don't specifically remember a style for PB in these situations. It's quite possible he was just okay with being lynched, too, since he knew he wasn't a wolf. But there is something to what you're saying here.

One thing that has me sketchy a little on you, though, is that you so quickly piled on the third vote on Abe, today. I think what you have here is plausible, but I admit I have been trying to resolve that out of the gate vote run on Abe all day. Just doesn't settle right.

My vote was only going on Abe today because of the PB connection (as I said, that is exactly the way I had played when I had that type of role, voting early on a wolf with a reason given which was crafted to not give anyone else a reason to vote for that person to try to prevent a pile on). I don't have enough reason for it to go anywhere else. As for the number of the vote it was on Abe, that is merely due to the time I was on and not knowing if I could get back on today (I missed all of yesterday due to work and sleep).
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:19 PM   #288
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It's tied, isn't it?

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Old 03-19-2009, 07:27 PM   #289
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:29 PM   #290
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:30 PM   #291
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Tonight it has been decided that no one will be lynched.

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Old 03-19-2009, 07:31 PM   #292
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At this point we have to look at CR, who saved Abe and forced the no lynch.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:32 PM   #293
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I think we had a wolf handed to us and lt him get away...
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:35 PM   #294
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At this point we have to look at CR, who saved Abe and forced the no lynch.

I left it to the moderator. Most of the time there is a tie mechanism (in fact, that's what I was going off of, what The Jackal has in Post #1) determining a lynch. The Jackal chose not to make that public.

I don't like that it's a no lynch, but I had my reasons for that vote, and I gave them. I voted with plenty of time left, and we had two people still out there who hadn't voted.

If Abe ends up a wolf, then lynch me if you must. But I did what I did to try to get more answers and more suspects. It didn't work, and worse yet, no one even got lynched.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:48 PM   #295
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #296
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:sigh: Whats the best way for a wolf to fake reveal when he is as good as dead? That would be to say he is the wife and force the husband to come out a reveal himself. The husband is the most dangerous role to the wolves at this point. And if he's gonna go why not force that reveal? With that said I'm not sure that reveal really proves anything without a husband reveal which would be awful at this point.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:24 PM   #297
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We now have Pass shenanigans two days in a row at lynch time I see. I understand the whole car troubles thing and hate to bust balls over something like that but how much longer can this go on before it enters the conversation?
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:25 PM   #298
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And now that Schmidty is here I swear that if he comes in and agrees with me completely again my head is going to explode.
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From what I heard, Schmidty agrees with dubb...
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