11-29-2022, 06:41 PM | #1501 |
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Looks about right to me.
So if TCU or USC loses, OSU can sneak in. If both TCU and USC loses, OSU and AL can sneak in. Last edited by Edward64 : 11-29-2022 at 06:45 PM. |
11-29-2022, 06:57 PM | #1502 |
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I basically think Deion went public with Colorado in an attempt to encourage other schools to call him right away if interested.
He's not taking that job
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11-29-2022, 07:23 PM | #1503 |
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TCU might stay in,,even with a loss. Or OSU might jump them, but is very unlikely Alabama can. I think the rankings now have Alabama almost certainly out.
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11-29-2022, 07:35 PM | #1504 | |
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Their only shot, I believe, is if K-State just plows the field with TCU and USC loses. THAT might open the door for a second team outside the current top 4. A close loss for TCU and I imagine they stay in at #4
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11-29-2022, 07:55 PM | #1505 |
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Interestingly if there was a 12 team playoff this year, not one non-P5 team would make it.
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11-29-2022, 07:57 PM | #1506 |
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Agree. I think the top three are what they are barring a blowout loss for TCU, which ... they're the kind of team that I have a hard time seeing that happen to. USC if they win, OSU otherwise for the final spot, top three almost certainly staying.
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11-29-2022, 07:59 PM | #1507 | |
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The way I read the plan, one of them is guaranteed. Top four conf. champions get byes, six at-large bids, and next two conf. champs, one of which wouldn't be a P5. And then what happens if a team like Purdue wins a conf. championship, could be multiple others in. Last edited by Brian Swartz : 11-29-2022 at 08:00 PM. |
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11-29-2022, 08:21 PM | #1508 | |
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If Purdue won, that would just knock out Utah (the lowest ranked at-large team).
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11-29-2022, 09:02 PM | #1509 |
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I know this is not how it works but I think the 4 teams at the top should make it regardless of the conference title game. Just seems weird to penalize a team for making their conference title game and give a boost to those who couldn't.
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11-29-2022, 09:09 PM | #1510 | |
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It's part of their body of work though, you can't exactly ignore it realistically.
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11-29-2022, 09:53 PM | #1511 |
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11-29-2022, 10:21 PM | #1512 | |
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11-29-2022, 10:26 PM | #1513 |
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Yeah the conference title games started because of greed with an understanding that it could screw a team out of a national championship chance. If conferences want to continue using that extra game for nothing but added money I have no problem with a team being punished for the game if they lose.
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11-30-2022, 09:44 AM | #1514 |
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There have also been many situations where it helps a team if they win. It just didn't work out that way this year in terms of the playoffs.
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11-30-2022, 12:25 PM | #1515 |
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Yep. If Clemson & LSU hadn't choked vs weaker teams they're possibly playing for their spot in the playoff this week. (Or at least a spot in line ahead of Alabama)
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11-30-2022, 03:06 PM | #1516 |
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It seems they want people to buy into the same mindset as they have for the 68-team basketball tournament. Conference tournaments are their own entity, and offer seeding bonuses to the top conferences and entry to the weaker conferences.
But with the football format, since losses are major and possibly disqualifying events, like Tic Tac Toe and Global Thermonuclear War, it is often best simply not to play the game. Hopefully, Michigan can avoid the let-down. Purdue has a good offense, and the one thing Michigan doesn't do well is pressure the quarterback. I think they're in regardless, like Georgia and TCU. It is time to eliminate these games. I'll just reiterate that I'm glad the Big Ten didn't follow the other conferences that removed divisions. Then it would be Michigan/Ohio State again. |
11-30-2022, 04:36 PM | #1517 | |
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Now, when we go to an expanded tournament and both teams playing are basically guaranteed entry even with a loss? Yeah they gots to go. |
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11-30-2022, 04:49 PM | #1518 |
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People do still care about conference championships.
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11-30-2022, 04:55 PM | #1519 |
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Jalen Kitna being arrested for child porn doesn't shock me given how over the top religious his dad is.
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11-30-2022, 05:37 PM | #1520 |
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Interesting police blotter today.
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11-30-2022, 08:06 PM | #1521 |
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Interesting factoid on the value of pre-season rankings: 15 of the current CFP Top 25 were not ranked when the season began. There's always some of course, but over half?
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12-01-2022, 07:39 AM | #1522 |
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I guess Nebraska really dodged a bullet on that one.
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12-01-2022, 10:45 AM | #1523 |
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12 team playoff is official for 2024. Next year will end the 4 team playoff era.
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12-01-2022, 11:07 AM | #1524 | |
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I can't wait for all the arguments of how the 13th ranked team got screwed by being left out.
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12-01-2022, 11:09 AM | #1525 |
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I'm not going to care. The last four in a 12 team playoff would probably be interchangeable.
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12-01-2022, 11:31 AM | #1526 |
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You would care if the Dawgs (or Hogs) ended being 13th
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12-01-2022, 11:46 AM | #1527 |
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If you go by the College Football ranking Washington would be 12. Whew!!
I am assuming top 4 teams get a bye? If that was the case base of the current CFP rankings the matchups would be tOSU-UW ( interestingly good shot thats the Rose Bowl this year) Alabama- Utah Tenn-Kstate Penn St- Clemson The 12 team field would be 3 SEC, 3 PAC12, 3 Big 10, 2 Big 12, 1 ACC. Would like to see some rule where the highest ranked non P5 team gets in (of course that would bounce UW so maybe not!!). That would be Tulane Just looking over the poll, PAC 12 has the same amount of teams in the top 25 as SEC and more in the top 20. Dare say the conference of champions is back! |
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It is a rule from what I've read. 6 highest rated conference champions get. Also read that you must be a conference champ to get a top 4 seed.
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I don't know where it ended up, but I thought to get the auto non-P5 slot, the original proposal was that team had to be ranked in the top 15 or 16...? So my thought is that unless you have a Boise State/UCF/Cincinnati situation, you're going to see the non-P5s ranked in the 15-20 range so they can be dropped out accordingly if the "eye test" doesn't work in their favor, or there's an unusually strong group of 2-3 loss P5 teams who are more deserving.
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12-01-2022, 02:05 PM | #1531 |
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Not really. If they are three losses into a season? Eh.
I have always thought 8 was the better number. It is hard for me to believe a really deserving team would be ranked lower than that. Of course, when the first playoff champion is a 12 seed, I will eat my hat. |
12-01-2022, 02:15 PM | #1532 |
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I don't mind 12. It's a tournament - "deserving" in that context just means having earned a top 12 spot. It doesn't mean they should (or can) win 3 games to win the championship.
That's been the problem with the CFP, IMO. Once you expanded beyond simply picking the 2 teams to play for the title, it should have been just about who earned a spot in the tournament, not this twisted logic of who looks like a title winner. Alabama always looks like a title winner, even when they lose 1 or 2 games a year. That's not the purpose of the exercise (or shouldn't be).
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12-01-2022, 03:59 PM | #1534 |
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FAU with a nice hire of Tom Herman. Definitely an upgrade...
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Interested to see if Swarbrick pushes back at all against this proposal, whether to get ND measured vs the G5 conference champs or an outside shot at a top 4 bid in a year like 2018. Though overall I don't mind it, not hard to be one of the top 6 at-large teams in a good year.
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12-01-2022, 06:22 PM | #1536 |
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He was part of the group that came up with this proposal.
As long as conference championship games are played/required, ND just gets an early bye week. |
12-01-2022, 07:11 PM | #1537 |
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Cade McNamara to Iowa
This is most excited Ive been over Iowa footbvall in December since 2015 Go Hawks! Now a new OC
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12-02-2022, 07:35 PM | #1539 |
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There might not be a single defensive stop in the Pac-12 championship.
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12-02-2022, 07:55 PM | #1540 |
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Go Utes!
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12-02-2022, 08:38 PM | #1542 |
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So ... I was wrong. A quality football game has broken out, against all early appearances. Something Utah has had for many years is a serious case of competitiveness. If I had to pick a west-coast team to root for (no thanks), they'd probably be it.
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12-02-2022, 08:57 PM | #1543 |
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Is that the USC motto?
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12-02-2022, 09:30 PM | #1544 |
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There's that Lincoln Riley defense
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12-02-2022, 10:02 PM | #1545 |
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USC is in big trouble. With Williams injured, they need a big break.
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12-02-2022, 10:06 PM | #1546 |
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Williams is walking like Fred Sanford.
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Ouch.
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Lincoln Riley brought so many things with him to USC that he forgot he packed OU's D.
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