Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!! - Page 38

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:23 PM

After 13 vote-actions, this is what I have (which is obvious if you look at the above, but I've been collecting these to see vote-trends)

I could post all votes in one long so that anyone could copy/past into Excel, but it might be a tad too long (at 222 lines right now).

If you want I could upload it to my website for download.

Code:

Raiders	Vote Grammaticus	Day 6	1	13
Ardent	Vote Coder	        Day 6	2	13
Taz	Vote Grammaticus	Day 6	3	13
dubb	Vote Schmidty	        Day 6	4	13
Coder	Vote Grammaticus	Day 6	5	13
Grammaticus	Vote Coder	Day 6	6	13
Lathum	Vote Coder	Day 6	7	13
RPI	Vote Grammaticus	Day 6	8	13
SchmidtyVote Grammaticus	Day 6	9	13
JeeberD	   Vote Pass	    Day 6	10	13
JeeberD	   Unvote Pass	    Day 6	11	13
JeeberD	   Vote Coder	    Day 6	12	13
RPI	Unvote Grammaticus	Day 6	13	13

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

This is somewhat frustrating because most people don't say shit. Grammaticus hasn't said anything until his ass was really on the line. Same with Coder.

Jesse still hasn't said anything of consequence, so I'm leaning towards him, Jeeber, Lathum, Pass, or king tomorrow (if I'm alive).

That's not really true, I've been pretty active days 4-5-6 (today)

Schmidty · 01-16-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Jesse still hasn't said anything of consequence, so I'm leaning towards him, Jeeber, Lathum, Pass, or king tomorrow (if I'm alive).

Very true. If any of those guys are DEs, they are sitting there inconspicuously laughing their asses off.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 06:27 PM

I think at least one is a DE. Sorry Code, just going from memory there.

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I think at least one is a DE. Sorry Code, just going from memory there.

Considering I have about 100 posts since this thing started, and only had 320 a week ago, I must have been posting somewhere at least

.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 06:30 PM

I also don't understand what Grammaticus' anger towards Schmidty is. In my mind, this clears Grammaticus. Why wouldn't he want that unless he's a wolf?

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

This is somewhat frustrating because most people don't say shit. Grammaticus hasn't said anything until his ass was really on the line. Same with Coder.

Jesse still hasn't said anything of consequence, so I'm leaning towards him, Jeeber, Lathum, Pass, or king tomorrow (if I'm alive).

why would you even think of me?

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I also don't understand what Grammaticus' anger towards Schmidty is. In my mind, this clears Grammaticus. Why wouldn't he want that unless he's a wolf?

I'm not sure I follow your line of thought here? Why wouldn't he want what?

I have some doubts about Gram at the moment, mainly due to what Des said earlier.. if Gram is lying, why didn't the real duke reverse the lynching of path12 and put Gram there instead?

Hmmm..

Unless of course the real duke voted for path hoping to save that card until later.

Coffee Warlord · 01-16-2006, 06:36 PM

The yak flies at midnight.

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

The yak flies at midnight.

I think the dead spirits are trying to say something!

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

why would you even think of me?

You've been quiet, which is somewhat uncharacteristic.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coder

I'm not sure I follow your line of thought here? Why wouldn't he want what?

I have some doubts about Gram at the moment, mainly due to what Des said earlier.. if Gram is lying, why didn't the real duke reverse the lynching of path12 and put Gram there instead?

Hmmm..

Unless of course the real duke voted for path hoping to save that card until later.

If Grammaticus is who he says he is, he'll be cleared when he proves he's the duke. In other words, he's not a DE and we can trust him.

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I think I caught a Death Eater in a lie. I nearly posted the following post yesterday morning, but as I continued to read and write I began to worry I might be killed during the night actions as a result. So, I saved the information for today.

This doesn't really make sense.. if you had posted it then, and gotten killed, it wouldn't have made any difference than if you posted it today. No matter when it's posted, it's a well collected source of items pointing towards me. If you wanted to point fingers it wouldn't have mattered when you posted.

I don't think that the werewolves kill for revenge.. if you had been killed during the night, people might have pointed towards me, but I don't see why the werewolves would go after you based on that.

Coder · 01-16-2006, 06:53 PM

Ok, this is really it.. I'm going to bed.

I still think that lynching Gram is the best thing to do, even if he is the Duke.. it's a win win situation. Obviously Gram can't be killed by a lynching if he's the duke and obviously he'll get killed by the lynching if he's a werewolf.

Good night, and thanks for having me!

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

This is somewhat frustrating because most people don't say shit. Grammaticus hasn't said anything until his ass was really on the line. Same with Coder.

Jesse still hasn't said anything of consequence, so I'm leaning towards him, Jeeber, Lathum, Pass, or king tomorrow (if I'm alive).

That is funny because I was thinking RA has not really said a whole lot this game. That is, compared to past games.

Basically I told you what you needed to know about me real early in the game.

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:02 PM

I'm thinking I should change the vote to Schmidty anyway. I would not be surprised if Schmidty and Dubb both turn out to be DE.

I find it hard to believe that Schmidty thinks I'm faking the role. It would not pay for a wolf to fake that role, when the real duke would just come forward and then I would be in a showdown that would out me no matter what. It just does not make sense that Schmidty thinks I'm a DE faking it.

Desnudo · 01-16-2006, 07:12 PM

What time is the deadline?

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

What time is the deadline?

I think 9:30pm so in about an hour and twenty minutes.

RPI-Fan · 01-16-2006, 07:21 PM

I'm voting for Gram not because I think he's a DE, but because it's a win-win situation.

Either we get a DE outright, or we get a second crack at a DE and go a long way towards un-muddying the waters.

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

You've been quiet, which is somewhat uncharacteristic.

how have i been quiet?

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

That is funny because I was thinking RA has not really said a whole lot this game. That is, compared to past games.

Basically I told you what you needed to know about me real early in the game.

Actually I don't say a lot when I'm a simple villager, which I have been (thankfully) the past few games. I got tired of being the wolf. I think I had been a wolf something like five consecutive games. The first few times it was fun, but then it began to wear on me. When you're a wolf, you have to be available at all times for strategy purposes. The only advantage you have over the villagers is that you can communicate amongst yourselves so you have to leverage that to the best of your ability.

I enjoy being a villager since I don't have any real "obligation" to being online all of the time.

Desnudo · 01-16-2006, 07:26 PM

I just re-read AE's post on Coder. I'm not sure how solid the argument is, since it could just be a typo, but it's more solid than anything else we have really. But, Coder has played awfully loose, which indicates to me he's nothing more than a wizard.

My concern about voting Gramm is that if he dukes Schmidty and Schmidty is human, then how much have we learned?

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

I just re-read AE's post on Coder. I'm not sure how solid the argument is, since it could just be a typo, but it's more solid than anything else we have really. But, Coder has played awfully loose, which indicates to me he's nothing more than a wizard.

My concern about voting Gramm is that if he dukes Schmidty and Schmidty is human, then how much have we learned?

nothing, which is why I switched my vote

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

how have i been quiet?

Well, here are your last 10 posts in this thread, including this one (excluding the most recent one after you asked this question which doesn't amount to anything). Half of them are questions. And you have contributed how???

#1

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Originally Posted by Lathum

how have i been quiet?

#2

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Originally Posted by Lathum

why would you even think of me?

#3

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Originally Posted by Lathum

#4

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm trying to help you
asshat

#5

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Jeebs, that is a horrible waste of a vote that makes you look terrible. I think you should read AE's analyisis and make a vote that counts.

#6

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Gram, I don't pose any special powers, but if you are the duke I think you need to go with coder. Being an expierienced player and reading through everything I don't think Schmity is a DE.

#7

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Originally Posted by Lathum

why would you vote for the guy who claims to be the duke and said he is going to switch the vote to you?

#8

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Originally Posted by Lathum

unvote gram
vote coder

#9

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Originally Posted by Lathum

GRAM. THIS IS IMPORTANT
do you plan on changing your personal vote to schmity or the lynch vote to schmity?

#10

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Originally Posted by Lathum

vote gramm

I may be out most of the day and we don't have much to go by other then vote patterns.

#11

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Originally Posted by Lathum

sorry path, I was wrong but it seemed like you had some special powers or at least some special artifacts, why didn't he tell us that before the mob began?

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:33 PM

pwned.

Desnudo · 01-16-2006, 07:33 PM

All right, to me this is a watershed vote. I think that unless something got gummed up somewhere, Gramm is definitely who he says he is, the minister of magic, or whatever it is. Lord knows why he is still alive, and that's a question that may come back to haunt me. I think it would be a waste to duke Schmidty at this point, and losing the power of the duke would suck.

I have a sinking feeling about poor coder, but I think it might at least a little info:

Vote Coder

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Actually I don't say a lot when I'm a simple villager, which I have been (thankfully) the past few games. I got tired of being the wolf. I think I had been a wolf something like five consecutive games. The first few times it was fun, but then it began to wear on me. When you're a wolf, you have to be available at all times for strategy purposes. The only advantage you have over the villagers is that you can communicate amongst yourselves so you have to leverage that to the best of your ability.

I enjoy being a villager since I don't have any real "obligation" to being online all of the time.

The first game I played in, you were a villager (2 games ago) and you talked a lot, I mean a lot. That was the game where Dubb was the turncoat villager and layed a wammy on us, which completely turned you, me and Blade around and the wolves won that one.

So you do talk a lot as a villager or have in the past.....

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

The first game I played in, you were a villager (2 games ago) and you talked a lot, I mean a lot. That was the game where Dubb was the turncoat villager and layed a wammy on us, which completely turned you, me and Blade around and the wolves won that one.

So you do talk a lot as a villager or have in the past.....

sez you

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

sez you

So you don't think you talked a lot in that game?

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:38 PM

how about being the first one to call out sndvls?

and we will hit a point where we will look your list of my last ten posts and some of them will make sense.

saldana · 01-16-2006, 07:39 PM

1. please stop editing your posts, if you screwed up something, Dola it, dont edit

2. please, cant we all just get along, this is a game, and as RA said earlier, he and i did mix it up at one point in the past, i think what we need to remember is that we are all still just playing a game on an internet message board. Dubb, thanks for apologizing.

3. the deadline is in 50 minutes.

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:41 PM

Here is how I have the vote so far:

Gramm -(4)– RA, Taz, Coder, Schmidty, RPI
Coder – (4)- AE, Gramm, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo
Schmidty –(1)- Dubb

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

how about being the first one to call out sndvls?

and we will hit a point where we will look your list of my last ten posts and some of them will make sense.

I thought Neon was the first one to call out Sun on his lie.

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:42 PM

dola, that is five votes apiece not four.
Here is how I have the vote so far:

Gramm -(5)– RA, Taz, Coder, Schmidty, RPI
Coder – (5)- AE, Gramm, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo
Schmidty –(1)- Dubb

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I thought Neon was the first one to call out Sun on his lie.

nope. look back, it was me

saldana · 01-16-2006, 07:44 PM

current votes

Gram - 5 - RA, raz, coder, Schmidty, RPI**
Coder - 5 -AE, Gram, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo
Schmidty - 1 -dubb

**--the non magical tiebreak is on gram

Blade6119 · 01-16-2006, 07:45 PM

wait a tick, rpi and i were in a game together where there was a fight, and neither of us were involved....sweet jesus, whats this world coming too!!!!

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:46 PM

Hmmm, what would Blade do if he was the Ministry of Magic Official?

RPI-Fan · 01-16-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

wait a tick, rpi and i were in a game together where there was a fight, and neither of us were involved....sweet jesus, whats this world coming too!!!!

??

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I thought Neon was the first one to call out Sun on his lie.

start at post #597

Blade6119 · 01-16-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Hmmm, what would Blade do if he was the Ministry of Magic Official?

Ok, i apologize for duking you last game...wait, you were a bad guy...i mean HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dont reason by me, im bat shit crazy...trying to emulate me will get you in a whole lot of trouble as everyone used to hate my play style until i got better and it started rooting out wolves...emulate someone that wasnt clost to getting kicked out of 2 or 3 games when he first started for fighting

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

start at post #597

Don't worry, I'm not lynching you. As it stands, it is a tie, I win the lynch vote and change it to Schmidty. I really hope this pans out.

Of course there are votes still out there.

Blade6119 · 01-16-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

??

Maybe im mistaken, i thought it was you who i argued with HEAVILY a few games back...i apologize, it must have been someone else...who was it.....

I hate forgetting fueds

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

So you don't think you talked a lot in that game?

Nope. Not compared to when I was a wolf. I talk a bit in every game. Post count, of course. Freebie to no editing.

Raiders Army · 01-16-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Don't worry, I'm not lynching you. As it stands, it is a tie, I win the lynch vote and change it to Schmidty. I really hope this pans out.

Of course there are votes still out there.

But why Scmidty? Did I miss it somewhere? If it's a revenge vote for starting on you, I think that's a really crappy thing.

*thinks*

Then again, it would be a way of eliminating the Duke without having to kill him. That would be a pretty good strategy.

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:53 PM

Lathum, why do you think Schmidty is a wizard?

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Nope. Not compared to when I was a wolf. I talk a bit in every game. Post count, of course. Freebie to no editing.

Makes me a little suscpicious of you, because in that game you were posting as much as Blade. Now it may have had something to do with your being up for a vote almost every day. I would not be entirely surprised if you end up being a DE.

Schmidty · 01-16-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Lathum, why do you think Schmidty is a wizard?

It's my pointy hat, isn't it?

Grammaticus · 01-16-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

It's my pointy hat, isn't it?

I thought maybe it was the bunny slippers.

Lathum · 01-16-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Lathum, why do you think Schmidty is a wizard?

I'm not saying I am sure but I think coder is a better candidate if you are the duke.

If we go for coder tonight and he is innocent we get schmidty tomorrow. I just think coder is more likely a DE then schmidty.

01-16-2006, 06:23 PM	#1851
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	After 13 vote-actions, this is what I have (which is obvious if you look at the above, but I've been collecting these to see vote-trends) I could post all votes in one long so that anyone could copy/past into Excel, but it might be a tad too long (at 222 lines right now). If you want I could upload it to my website for download. Code: Raiders Vote Grammaticus Day 6 1 13 Ardent Vote Coder Day 6 2 13 Taz Vote Grammaticus Day 6 3 13 dubb Vote Schmidty Day 6 4 13 Coder Vote Grammaticus Day 6 5 13 Grammaticus Vote Coder Day 6 6 13 Lathum Vote Coder Day 6 7 13 RPI Vote Grammaticus Day 6 8 13 SchmidtyVote Grammaticus Day 6 9 13 JeeberD Vote Pass Day 6 10 13 JeeberD Unvote Pass Day 6 11 13 JeeberD Vote Coder Day 6 12 13 RPI Unvote Grammaticus Day 6 13 13 __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-16-2006, 06:53 PM	#1864
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Ok, this is really it.. I'm going to bed. I still think that lynching Gram is the best thing to do, even if he is the Duke.. it's a win win situation. Obviously Gram can't be killed by a lynching if he's the duke and obviously he'll get killed by the lynching if he's a werewolf. Good night, and thanks for having me! __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-16-2006, 07:21 PM	#1869
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I'm voting for Gram not because I think he's a DE, but because it's a win-win situation. Either we get a DE outright, or we get a second crack at a DE and go a long way towards un-muddying the waters. VOTE GRAMMATICUS __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

01-16-2006, 07:39 PM	#1881
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	1. please stop editing your posts, if you screwed up something, Dola it, dont edit 2. please, cant we all just get along, this is a game, and as RA said earlier, he and i did mix it up at one point in the past, i think what we need to remember is that we are all still just playing a game on an internet message board. Dubb, thanks for apologizing. 3. the deadline is in 50 minutes. Last edited by saldana : 01-16-2006 at 07:39 PM.

01-16-2006, 07:45 PM	#1887
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	wait a tick, rpi and i were in a game together where there was a fight, and neither of us were involved....sweet jesus, whats this world coming too!!!! __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

01-16-2006, 06:27 PM	#1854
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I think at least one is a DE. Sorry Code, just going from memory there.

01-16-2006, 06:30 PM	#1856
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I also don't understand what Grammaticus' anger towards Schmidty is. In my mind, this clears Grammaticus. Why wouldn't he want that unless he's a wolf?

01-16-2006, 06:36 PM	#1859
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The yak flies at midnight.

01-16-2006, 07:02 PM	#1866
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I'm thinking I should change the vote to Schmidty anyway. I would not be surprised if Schmidty and Dubb both turn out to be DE. I find it hard to believe that Schmidty thinks I'm faking the role. It would not pay for a wolf to fake that role, when the real duke would just come forward and then I would be in a showdown that would out me no matter what. It just does not make sense that Schmidty thinks I'm a DE faking it.

01-16-2006, 07:12 PM	#1867
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	What time is the deadline?

01-16-2006, 07:26 PM	#1872
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I just re-read AE's post on Coder. I'm not sure how solid the argument is, since it could just be a typo, but it's more solid than anything else we have really. But, Coder has played awfully loose, which indicates to me he's nothing more than a wizard. My concern about voting Gramm is that if he dukes Schmidty and Schmidty is human, then how much have we learned?

01-16-2006, 07:33 PM	#1875
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	pwned.

01-16-2006, 07:33 PM	#1876
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	All right, to me this is a watershed vote. I think that unless something got gummed up somewhere, Gramm is definitely who he says he is, the minister of magic, or whatever it is. Lord knows why he is still alive, and that's a question that may come back to haunt me. I think it would be a waste to duke Schmidty at this point, and losing the power of the duke would suck. I have a sinking feeling about poor coder, but I think it might at least a little info: Vote Coder

01-16-2006, 07:38 PM	#1880
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	how about being the first one to call out sndvls? and we will hit a point where we will look your list of my last ten posts and some of them will make sense.

01-16-2006, 07:41 PM	#1882
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Here is how I have the vote so far: Gramm -(4)– RA, Taz, Coder, Schmidty, RPI Coder – (4)- AE, Gramm, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo Schmidty –(1)- Dubb

01-16-2006, 07:42 PM	#1884
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	dola, that is five votes apiece not four. Here is how I have the vote so far: Gramm -(5)– RA, Taz, Coder, Schmidty, RPI Coder – (5)- AE, Gramm, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo Schmidty –(1)- Dubb

01-16-2006, 07:44 PM	#1886
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	current votes Gram - 5 - RA, raz, coder, Schmidty, RPI Coder - 5 -AE, Gram, Lathum, Jeeber, Desnudo Schmidty - 1 -dubb --the non magical tiebreak is on gram

01-16-2006, 07:46 PM	#1888
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Hmmm, what would Blade do if he was the Ministry of Magic Official?

01-16-2006, 07:53 PM	#1896
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Lathum, why do you think Schmidty is a wizard?

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