WW Small Game: The Tudors (Day4 EARLY START! deadline - Friday 5pm ET) - Page 7

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 07:58 PM

deadline attendees - the king and I (lol), eaglefan, lathum, cronin, telle

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 07:59 PM

lol - cute lathum - although it raises questions as to you maybe being Sir Cromwell - a known reformer and enemy of the crown

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

UNVOTE ANYONE I PREVIOUSLY VOTED
VOTE EAGLEFAN

We applaud this. We apologize for any negative insinuations we just made.

EagleFan · 07-16-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I once again resent your impication, whether you are a wolf or a villager. You can see that I am already advocating against Lathum. So drop this elitism tactic. It's offensive.

You have your opinions and I have mine, that makes this a great country.

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I once again resent your impication, whether you are a wolf or a villager. You can see that I am already advocating against Lathum. So drop this elitism tactic. It's offensive.

We have to admit that this statement is ironic in light of our current exulted position, appointed by God.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:00 PM

EF - nobody is voting against you because we're "elitist" - we are all voting against you because we believe it is the correct play. It just happened to shake out that way. In past games it has shaken out against other people. Hell -- I have revealed and not been believed before also.

EagleFan · 07-16-2008, 08:00 PM

You have lost your BG with your vote.

Alan T · 07-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Deadline

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

We have to admit that this statement is ironic in light of our current exulted position, appointed by God.

LOL - you're absolutely cracking me up!

especially now that we've met and I can picture you sitting there saying these things!

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:02 PM

if that's true that sucks - but credit to path for dropping hints to fall back on and crafting a great fake reveal then.

We will soldier on, with or without bodyguard, rooting out reformers in the name of the king.

Alan T · 07-16-2008, 08:09 PM

As the day continues, the peaceful mood of the morning once again turns to talk over which among you may be heretics. It does not take long before Eaglefan runs out of the crowd claiming that he was assaulted for his belief by Path12! A group of guards grab the both of them and drag them up on to the platform before the entire town to see.

A handful of local bishops take their turns asking each of them questions in order to try to determine whom the heretic may be, but in the end they can not decide and leave the decision to the people gathered around. Both Path and Eaglefan are given the opportunity to speak their defense and in the end it appears that the majority of people have chosen Eaglefan as the guilty one.

The guards walk towards him to bring him over to the executioner, when he suddenly lunges for Path12! You can not see exactly what happens but suddenly Path's face turns white and his eyes grow large.. He crumples to the ground like a sack of potatos.. He was stabbed in the back with a knife held by Eaglefan!!

One of the local Bishops decides he has had enough and he orders that Eaglefan be tied up by all of his limbs and stretched until his limbs come off. Each piece of his body shall be placed in a different part of England as a reminder to any reformist whom may decide to try to spread their word here.

As Eaglefan is tied up, it suddenly becomes obvious that this is none other than the infamous Martin Luther!! You seem to be able to tune out his horrific screams as he is served his punishment and a few people look to find out more about Path12. After looking at his family coat of arms, you realize that Path was Edward Stafford, Duke of Buckingham!

It is now Night cycle. Deadline for any night orders is 7am ET in the morning.

EagleFan · 07-16-2008, 08:10 PM

I told you that you lost the BG with that vote...

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:11 PM

Not the ideal outcome but I feel vindicated.

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 08:11 PM

We are most pleased with today's play. Most pleased.

Telle · 07-16-2008, 08:11 PM

Well that was unexpected.

EagleFan · 07-16-2008, 08:12 PM

Good game all and good luck. After being a wolf 5 straight games maybe I'll be a villager next game?

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Not the ideal outcome but I feel vindicated.

We were going to lose the BG one way another. We are fine trading the BG for a wolf.

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:12 PM

I just want to point out that I was, I think, the first vote on EagleFan.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:14 PM

you were the 2nd I believe cronin

and we're fine trading the BG for the brutal wolf, for sure

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:15 PM

so now we're what - 5 to 1 after the night kill?

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:15 PM

The first was path, I was second.

Lathum · 07-16-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I just want to point out that I was, I think, the first vote on EagleFan.

and I was the last

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:16 PM

7 players left, after dawn it will be 4-1-1.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:19 PM

lathum - I find you to be largely free of suspicion at this point, given that.

the other wolf (and perhaps the traitor as well) are in the group of: henry, telle, cronin, laxjunkie

cronin was the 2nd vote on EF, I'm not sure what to make of him. I think part of that may be b/c I have been burned so many times by him as a crafty wolf that I am naturally suspiscious of him (and vice-versa, him of me)

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:19 PM

I'm thinking the other wolf is either henry or bek.

path12 · 07-16-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

We are most pleased with today's play. Most pleased.

We, on the other hand, are somewhat disappointed. Long Live The King!

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:20 PM

dola

possibly DaddyTorgo ... he hemmed and hawed for a long time over path's reveal.

Barkeep49 · 07-16-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

lathum - I find you to be largely free of suspicion at this point, given that.

the other wolf (and perhaps the traitor as well) are in the group of: henry, telle, cronin, laxjunkie

cronin was the 2nd vote on EF, I'm not sure what to make of him. I think part of that may be b/c I have been burned so many times by him as a crafty wolf that I am naturally suspiscious of him (and vice-versa, him of me)

We are not as convinced of the innocence. Casting the decisive vote for a person who was going to die today or tomorrow is not as hard of a call. We do, however, wish to look elsewhere tomorrow.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:21 PM

I did no such hemming an hawing - I just waited a long time to vote to see what developed, because I only have ultimate trust in myself + BK at the moment (with lathum right below us)

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:22 PM

I fully agree with Barkeep on Lathum - I don't consider him cleared. But, barring a seer reveal, I'm not really considering him.

Lathum · 07-16-2008, 08:23 PM

Day 1 vote count

1 - EagleFan - st.cronin (42)
4 - path12 - EagleFan (50), oliegirl (83), laxjunkie62 (109), Henry (126)
3 - oliegirl - path12 (81), Telle (91), Lathum (127)
2 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (92), Barkeep (125)

Day 2 vote count

(4) Path - Telle (149), henry (150), eaglefan (165), laxjunkie62 (177)
(5) Eaglefan - path12 (175), st.cronin (184), barkeep (193) DaddyTorgo (264) Lathum (298)

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:25 PM

is that cronin trying to hide a vote on EF on day 1 ? Is that henry trying to sneak his vote in there on Path right after telle does and try to get a little run going?

Lathum · 07-16-2008, 08:25 PM

so LAx, Telle, and Henry have all voted for good guys

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Ok, looking at that vote count makes me think DT is likely the second wolf.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:27 PM

you're really insistent on that aren't you cronin - makes me wonder why

st.cronin · 07-16-2008, 08:30 PM

I just find it hard to believe that EagleFan and either Henry or Lax would vote together day 1. Maybe, but I find it hard to believe. So looking at the other votes: Telle I think is the traitor. Barkeep and path are cleared. That leaves Lathum, DaddyTorgo, and myself. I know I'm a villager, that leaves Lathum or DT as the other wolf.

Lathum · 07-16-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, looking at that vote count makes me think DT is likely the second wolf.

I would be shocked...

if he was a wolf why not cast the vote on Path making it 5-3 sealing his fate?

laxjunkie62 · 07-16-2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

so LAx, Telle, and Henry have all voted for good guys

Indeed we have, and I'm not denying that fact, however, and you can ask your highness, as he knows, I am not the one that you are after.

From what I can recall, Henry has been pretty quiet this game.

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:34 PM

so looking at the others - it's either telle or you that are the wolf, lathum potentially the traitor (from my POV - as I have stated about him earlier)

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:34 PM

lax - how would you claim the king knows of who you are?

laxjunkie62 · 07-16-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

lax - how would you claim the king knows of who you are?

the king and I have had our ups and downs, or good nights and our bad nights, and he wouldnt forget, trust me on this....

DaddyTorgo · 07-16-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laxjunkie62

the king and I have had our ups and downs, or good nights and our bad nights, and he wouldnt forget, trust me on this....

so I take it you're trying the claim the role of one of the king's hot ladies...which is all fine and good except that really tells us nothing, as the reformers know which names aren't used, and the king has no idea.

henry296 · 07-16-2008, 08:42 PM

I had expected this game to start earlier when I had more free time which I was I have been under the radar. I think lax is the other wolf since he voted for path after hearing the counter reveal.

As for me, i voted before the reveal and I felt it was a 50/50 proposition on who was telling the truth so while I was reading the whole time, didn't change my vote. In retrospect, the body guard always blocks himself early so I should've believed path.

Lathum · 07-16-2008, 09:55 PM

man, I go jogging and come back and not 1 new post!

Alan T · 07-17-2008, 07:12 AM

Another day begins as the sun rises over the English Channel, but today there is grim news indeed. During the night, there was a MURDER! St.Cronin was found dead and in death was revealed as Princess Mary Tudor, daughter of the King!

Surely such actions can not go unpunished! This had to have been work of the reformists!

Day 3 has begun. Deadline for lynch votes is 9pm ET.

Just a quick game note, I am going out tonight so the lynch may be a little delayed, but it shouldn't be much past 10pm. Deadline is still 9 however.

Alan T · 07-17-2008, 07:15 AM

One other quick game note in case people needed to know this information. There is no weekend play for this game, it will be ending either with a loyalist win or a reformist win by tommorrow evening at the latest.

Schedule for the remainder of the game:

Day3 deadline - 9pm ET
Night3 deadline - 7am ET Friday
Day4 deadline - 5pm ET
Night4 deadline (if needed) - processed immediately after Day4 lynch.

Telle · 07-17-2008, 07:36 AM

So st.cronin's death kills off any theories involving him as a wolf or the traitor. What does that leave us with?

DaddyTorgo · 07-17-2008, 08:19 AM

leaves us with telle/henry/lax

of those three i think we collectively have a stronger belief (based on your play so far) that you are the traitor telle - which leaves us a 50/50 toss up between henry/lax as to who the wolf is.

based strictly on vote-analysis I think i am leaning towards henry, but my mind is far from made up.

just in case the tiebreak is something wonky though

VOTE HENRY296

Telle · 07-17-2008, 08:36 AM

Well I need to vote in the next hour and a half. I don't have much trust for lax.. but then there really isn't much to go on with henry either.

DaddyTorgo · 07-17-2008, 08:37 AM

dola

i should say leaves us with

cleared:
BK
DT

high conviction not-wolf:
Lathum (could be traitor)

Potential Wolf:
Telle (possible traitor)
henry296
laxjunkie

07-16-2008, 08:11 PM	#313
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Not the ideal outcome but I feel vindicated. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:12 PM	#318
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I just want to point out that I was, I think, the first vote on EagleFan. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:15 PM	#321
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	The first was path, I was second. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:16 PM	#323
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	7 players left, after dawn it will be 4-1-1. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:19 PM	#325
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm thinking the other wolf is either henry or bek. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 07:58 PM	#301
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	deadline attendees - the king and I (lol), eaglefan, lathum, cronin, telle

07-16-2008, 07:59 PM	#302
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol - cute lathum - although it raises questions as to you maybe being Sir Cromwell - a known reformer and enemy of the crown

07-16-2008, 08:00 PM	#306
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	EF - nobody is voting against you because we're "elitist" - we are all voting against you because we believe it is the correct play. It just happened to shake out that way. In past games it has shaken out against other people. Hell -- I have revealed and not been believed before also.

07-16-2008, 08:00 PM	#307
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	You have lost your BG with your vote.

07-16-2008, 08:01 PM	#308
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Deadline

07-16-2008, 08:02 PM	#310
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	if that's true that sucks - but credit to path for dropping hints to fall back on and crafting a great fake reveal then. We will soldier on, with or without bodyguard, rooting out reformers in the name of the king.

07-16-2008, 08:09 PM	#311
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	As the day continues, the peaceful mood of the morning once again turns to talk over which among you may be heretics. It does not take long before Eaglefan runs out of the crowd claiming that he was assaulted for his belief by Path12! A group of guards grab the both of them and drag them up on to the platform before the entire town to see. A handful of local bishops take their turns asking each of them questions in order to try to determine whom the heretic may be, but in the end they can not decide and leave the decision to the people gathered around. Both Path and Eaglefan are given the opportunity to speak their defense and in the end it appears that the majority of people have chosen Eaglefan as the guilty one. The guards walk towards him to bring him over to the executioner, when he suddenly lunges for Path12! You can not see exactly what happens but suddenly Path's face turns white and his eyes grow large.. He crumples to the ground like a sack of potatos.. He was stabbed in the back with a knife held by Eaglefan!! One of the local Bishops decides he has had enough and he orders that Eaglefan be tied up by all of his limbs and stretched until his limbs come off. Each piece of his body shall be placed in a different part of England as a reminder to any reformist whom may decide to try to spread their word here. As Eaglefan is tied up, it suddenly becomes obvious that this is none other than the infamous Martin Luther!! You seem to be able to tune out his horrific screams as he is served his punishment and a few people look to find out more about Path12. After looking at his family coat of arms, you realize that Path was Edward Stafford, Duke of Buckingham! It is now Night cycle. Deadline for any night orders is 7am ET in the morning.

07-16-2008, 08:10 PM	#312
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I told you that you lost the BG with that vote...

07-16-2008, 08:11 PM	#314
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	We are most pleased with today's play. Most pleased.

07-16-2008, 08:11 PM	#315
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Well that was unexpected.

07-16-2008, 08:12 PM	#316
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Good game all and good luck. After being a wolf 5 straight games maybe I'll be a villager next game?

07-16-2008, 08:14 PM	#319
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you were the 2nd I believe cronin and we're fine trading the BG for the brutal wolf, for sure

07-16-2008, 08:15 PM	#320
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	so now we're what - 5 to 1 after the night kill?

07-16-2008, 08:19 PM	#324
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lathum - I find you to be largely free of suspicion at this point, given that. the other wolf (and perhaps the traitor as well) are in the group of: henry, telle, cronin, laxjunkie cronin was the 2nd vote on EF, I'm not sure what to make of him. I think part of that may be b/c I have been burned so many times by him as a crafty wolf that I am naturally suspiscious of him (and vice-versa, him of me)

07-16-2008, 08:20 PM	#327
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	dola possibly DaddyTorgo ... he hemmed and hawed for a long time over path's reveal. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:21 PM	#329
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I did no such hemming an hawing - I just waited a long time to vote to see what developed, because I only have ultimate trust in myself + BK at the moment (with lathum right below us)

07-16-2008, 08:22 PM	#330
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I fully agree with Barkeep on Lathum - I don't consider him cleared. But, barring a seer reveal, I'm not really considering him. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:23 PM	#331
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Day 1 vote count 1 - EagleFan - st.cronin (42) 4 - path12 - EagleFan (50), oliegirl (83), laxjunkie62 (109), Henry (126) 3 - oliegirl - path12 (81), Telle (91), Lathum (127) 2 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (92), Barkeep (125) Day 2 vote count (4) Path - Telle (149), henry (150), eaglefan (165), laxjunkie62 (177) (5) Eaglefan - path12 (175), st.cronin (184), barkeep (193) DaddyTorgo (264) Lathum (298)

07-16-2008, 08:25 PM	#332
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	is that cronin trying to hide a vote on EF on day 1 ? Is that henry trying to sneak his vote in there on Path right after telle does and try to get a little run going?

07-16-2008, 08:25 PM	#333
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so LAx, Telle, and Henry have all voted for good guys

07-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#334
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ok, looking at that vote count makes me think DT is likely the second wolf. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:27 PM	#335
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you're really insistent on that aren't you cronin - makes me wonder why

07-16-2008, 08:30 PM	#336
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I just find it hard to believe that EagleFan and either Henry or Lax would vote together day 1. Maybe, but I find it hard to believe. So looking at the other votes: Telle I think is the traitor. Barkeep and path are cleared. That leaves Lathum, DaddyTorgo, and myself. I know I'm a villager, that leaves Lathum or DT as the other wolf. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-16-2008, 08:34 PM	#339
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	so looking at the others - it's either telle or you that are the wolf, lathum potentially the traitor (from my POV - as I have stated about him earlier)

07-16-2008, 08:34 PM	#340
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lax - how would you claim the king knows of who you are?

07-16-2008, 08:42 PM	#343
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I had expected this game to start earlier when I had more free time which I was I have been under the radar. I think lax is the other wolf since he voted for path after hearing the counter reveal. As for me, i voted before the reveal and I felt it was a 50/50 proposition on who was telling the truth so while I was reading the whole time, didn't change my vote. In retrospect, the body guard always blocks himself early so I should've believed path. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-16-2008, 09:55 PM	#344
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	man, I go jogging and come back and not 1 new post!

07-17-2008, 07:12 AM	#345
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Another day begins as the sun rises over the English Channel, but today there is grim news indeed. During the night, there was a MURDER! St.Cronin was found dead and in death was revealed as Princess Mary Tudor, daughter of the King! Surely such actions can not go unpunished! This had to have been work of the reformists! Day 3 has begun. Deadline for lynch votes is 9pm ET. Just a quick game note, I am going out tonight so the lynch may be a little delayed, but it shouldn't be much past 10pm. Deadline is still 9 however.

07-17-2008, 07:15 AM	#346
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	One other quick game note in case people needed to know this information. There is no weekend play for this game, it will be ending either with a loyalist win or a reformist win by tommorrow evening at the latest. Schedule for the remainder of the game: Day3 deadline - 9pm ET Night3 deadline - 7am ET Friday Day4 deadline - 5pm ET Night4 deadline (if needed) - processed immediately after Day4 lynch. Last edited by Alan T : 07-17-2008 at 07:15 AM.

07-17-2008, 07:36 AM	#347
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	So st.cronin's death kills off any theories involving him as a wolf or the traitor. What does that leave us with?