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I hope if Peyton does it, he will not drag it out
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Here's a crazy offseason prediction:
Chip Kelly comes close to pulling the trigger on a massive trade up to get Mariotta, but gets overruled by Loria. Instead, he gets Manziel from Cleveland for a whole lot less. A few years back, he had Manziel going to Oregon and didn't offer Mariotta until Manziel changed his mind and went to A&M.
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01-12-2015, 01:31 PM | #305 | |
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Lurie. Loria is the asshole who fucked over Montreal. And, no. Chip Kelly is smart enough to realize Manziel is not an NFL QB.
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01-12-2015, 01:43 PM | #306 |
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That's why it is a crazy prediction.
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01-12-2015, 01:57 PM | #307 |
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01-12-2015, 03:34 PM | #309 |
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I think Mariota has the tools to be a big time NFL player. I was watching some film breakdown show and they were showing what all he was responsible for on the field.
On one play: first he would read the line to see if he should hand it to the RB, if not he would swing left to see if a WR screen was there, if not he would swing right to see if a WR screen was available there, if not he would take off down the line to run the ball and if he was cut off he still had the option to pitch to one WR while another headed up the field to block. This was all after the snap. It had my head spinning.
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01-12-2015, 04:17 PM | #311 |
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John Fox out in Denver
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01-12-2015, 04:23 PM | #312 |
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01-12-2015, 04:24 PM | #313 |
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Sounds like it was a "mutual parting" (Ie, they both wanted out):
John Fox and Broncos mutually part ways after four years | ProFootballTalk |
01-12-2015, 04:25 PM | #314 |
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Fired a guy that went 46-18 over four seasons. Smart. Guess we'll get to see how Peyton Manning does as head coach.
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do you really want a coach who has such a bad history of underachieving in the playoffs?
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Fox had a loaded manning team and went 1 and done 2 of 3 years. It's impossible to say if he's a good coach cause even Dave Shula would have done similarly
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Did you see how weak Manning's arm looked yesterday? How badly his timing was off even on short throws? How is that John Fox's fault?
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He did nearly lead Carolina to a Super Bowl win, but Vinateri kicked a last second FG. This was two seasons after they went 1-15.
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Then there's the fact that Manning isn't exactly a clutch player in the playoffs. Whether it be Mora or Dungy or Caldwell or Fox. When exactly does the blame get laid at Manning's feet for his latest post-season implosion?
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Great opportunity for the G-men to pick him back up, lead the defense for a season, then take over for Coughlin (I think this is Coughlins last year regardless of what happens, personally). |
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Chris Cooley was genuinely suggesting this on his local show.
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01-12-2015, 05:08 PM | #323 |
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Denver released the whole coaching staff. Glad Denver has replaced the 49ers at the top of the "dysfunctional organization" flagpole.
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Fox to Chicago feels like a fit.
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If they promote Gase, then that is essentially what they're doing. This just feels like the NBA where the star player runs the coach out of town. Unfortunately, it rarely works out too well.
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Maybe Manning has told them he's retiring? But it seems like that would be the wrong time to introduce anarchy into the organization. I hear Marc Trestman is available!
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01-12-2015, 05:13 PM | #327 |
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wow Elway let everyone go including Adam Gase and Del Rio.:
NEW INFO: Entire Broncos coaching staff let go. Not just John Fox. All assistants gone according to several players. — Vic Lombardi (@VicLombardi) January 12, 2015 Member of the Broncos coaching staff tells me that the entire staff has been notified during group meeting that can/should "look elsewhere." — Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) January 12, 2015 |
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Wonder if Tony Dungy wants to coach again.
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According to Ian Rappaport (who is pretty close to Jeddy Boy York), looks like Gase is the 49ers' favorite candidate and they are trying to get him in for a second interview tonight. This may happen quickly.
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Enjoy he is nothing special. He had a horrible game plan yesterday and deserved to be fired as did the rest of this coaching staff. We can do better elsewhere. |
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I just don't see John Fox being unemployed for long.
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Funny comment I saw under one of the Fox articles mentioning "bring back Shanahan and Cutler".
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Don't think so. Most fans in town are in line with thiS.....Rumor is Kubiak HC/OC and Dick Lebeau DC.
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Give them a couple years of 3-13 then see how 'in line' with it they are. Kubiak just said earlier he was staying in Baltimore.
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A couple general thoughts on this (and the 49ers struggles in whole): (1) Generally, picking a head coach is as much of a crapshoot as the draft. The Patriots took heat when selecting Belichek and the Dolphins thought they were getting a savior with Saban. Gase likely has a 50-50 shot of succeeding if he's the guy, especially with the caliber of defense he will inherit; (2) I would be careful about killing Gase on his gameplan for two reasons. First, as limited as Manning was, it's really difficult to build a successful gameplan on that especially if he looked much, much better in practice. It's easy to say, "well just run the damn ball more" when the Colts are putting 9/10 in the box and squatting on receiver routes because they know Manning can't throw more than 20 yards deep. Second, it's difficult to know how much of the gameplan was made at the direction of Fox who is known to be ultra-conservative. Remember, in most situations, the role between the HC and OC is that the HC calls run or pass, and the OC is supposed to pick the chosen run or pass more likely to succeed in that situation; (3) I feel more confident in criticizing the Harbaugh/Roman offensive strategy because it is clear they made some poor choices in training camp in instituting their plan and carried that through the regular season. Harbaugh/Roman, perhaps with pressure from the front offense, were determine to turn the 49ers into an "air-it-out" philosophy but they did not have the personnel to do it. The only game which the 49ers had any consistent offensive success was in the Chargers game late in the season, when they ironically went back to the run option/single back set up that worked for them so well in years past. Conversely, the Broncos had numerous games this year where they were lights out. Remember that 49ers' Sunday night game for Peyton's record? Then, Peyton got injured and it's pretty easy to compare the downfall in overall offensive production with his injury. Nevertheless, the Broncos changed their whole offensive strategy on the fly mid-season and had consistent success with it. That tells me a lot about their coaching staff, after going through the Harbaugh/Roman experience this past year. Overall, however, you simply can't be confident in the Broncos' plan letting everyone go for a bad performance where Peyton was injured. Similarly, I don't care who the 49ers get, or how bad Harbaugh/Roman are, whether the next guy they get is good is simply a crapshoot. I would much rather be in the New York Giants/Pittsburgh Steelers position than the 49ers or Broncos at this point, due to head coach stability. Last edited by RedKingGold : 01-12-2015 at 05:54 PM. |
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I guess the confusing thing to me about Denver, is, essentially, they fired their coach because Manning does what Manning almost always does in the playoffs. Which is choke.
What exactly did Denver think they were getting there?
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Go hang out with Rex in Buffalo. Then choke in the playoffs again.
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