2014 FOFC HARDCORE BASEBALL (Please set your lineups)

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

LETS DO THIS!!!

I'll add more later since I'm doing this on my phone

Who can join
Preference goes towards members who were in the league last year. Anyone else will be put on the waiting list. Sterlingice is automatically number one on the waiting list

When is the draft?
I'm thinking around March 1.

Rule changes
Now is the time to propose rule changes. Majority wins.

I'll add more when I have access to a computer and I'll pm everyone who was in the league last year.

Who is in?
1. LWSFS---10
2. Subby---2
3. Samifan---3
4. Ramazavail---9
5. clebrownsfan---12
6. ntndeacon---4
7. claphamsa---11
8. mizzourah---6
9. TRO---5
10.Packerfanatic---8
11. Cubboyroy---7
12. Toddzilla---1
Waiting List

1. Jetsin06
Keeper Idea: Yay or Nay?
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2724214&postcount=946
Yay
1. Ramzavail
2. Clebrownsfan
3. claphamsa
4. ntndeacon

Nay
1. TRO
2. LWSFS
3. Packerfanatic
4. mizzourah
5. danny
6. samifan
7. Subby

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Draft Format

The draft will take place in this thread once the league has been set up. It is a snake draft. We will start drafting the morning of Monday March 3rd .


The first pick each morning must be made by 10 am eastern time. Then the three hour clock will start for the next pick. Also, lets make the cutoff 10 pm eastern at night so if the final pick is made at 8 pm, the next person has until 10 am eastern time to make his pick. If most people in this league live in the western time zone or central time zone we could adjust this

On weekends the first pick must be made by 2 pm eastern time, we'll *go with a standard 3 hours with a 10 pm eastern time cut off.

If there are problems in that you know your pick is coming up but you won't be online, submit a list either to myself or to a proxy drafter for you. Otherwise, you will get the next player on Yahoo's list. Maybe pick someone who is on the opposite end of the draft from you so that you likely won't be grabbing from the same pool of players anyways.

Opening Day is Monday March 31. If the draft is not complete by Sat March 29th at noon, we will have a quick live draft via AIM (or a program people actually use) to complete the draft on Sunday March 30th at 7pm . Anyone who won't be able to make that will need to submit a list to me, a proxy, or have a proxy in chat (who is not in the league) to finish out their team.

If you miss more than 2 picks in the draft (i.e. time limit expired so a Yahoo rankings pick), particularly in the first 10 rounds, then you can be replaced as manager.

I hate to lay down some of these rules but we're going to be drafting over 250 players so we need to get it done in a timely fashion.

IF YOU CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THIS SCHEDULE, DO NOT JOIN.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Draft Order:
1. Packerfanatic
2. Cubboyroy
3. Ramazavail
4. TRO
5. Subby
6. Claphamsa
7. ntndeacon
8. Samfan24
9. Clebrownsfan
10. Mizzourah
11. LWSFS
12. Toddzilla

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

1.1 Mike Trout OF packerfanatic
1.2 Miguel Cabrera 3B cubboyroy
1.3 Clayton Kershaw SP Ramazavail
1.4 Andrew McCutchen CF TRO
1.5 Paul Goldschmidt 1b Subby
1.6 Carlos Gonzalez LF Claphamsa
1.7 Adam Jones CF ntndeacon
1.8 Chris Davis 1b Samifan
1.9 Hanley Ramirez SS Clebrownsfan
1.10 Joey Votto 1b Mizzourah
1.11 Yu Darvish P LWSFS
1.12 Robinson Cano Toddzilla

2.1 Ryan Braun LF Toddzilla
2.2 Max Scherzer SP LWSFS
2.3 Troy Tulowitzki SS Mizzourah
2.4. Bryce Harper OF Clebrownsfan
2.5 Edwin Encarncion 1b 3b Samifan
2.6 Freddie Freeman 1b ntndeacon

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Reserve4

[Subby]

In.

[samifan24]

I'm back for another year!

[Ramzavail]

I'm in.

I'd like to put my keeper idea up for a vote

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...&postcount=946

[CleBrownsfan]

In - I'm open to making this a keeper as well...

[Toddzilla]

I'll go in as a reserve team if someone bails

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I will put the vote up on Ramzavail's keeper idea on the first post so we can keep track on who wants to do it and who doesn't

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

I'm in.

I'd like to put my keeper idea up for a vote

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...&postcount=946

I've been in a few leagues that used rules like this - they work great but your rules as written caused a bit of stagnation in our leagues when we first adopted them. We adjusted them to make keepers worth the round +2 (or +3), so a keeping a 10th rounder results in losing an 8th rounder, etc. We also declared FAs to be a 15th round pick equivalent.

[Ramzavail]

sure, I think tweaking the idea is a good idea and we can vote on those tweaks after (if it gets passed). I just thinking adding something like this makes it MORE HARDCORE

[claphamsa]

im in and I like keepers just not as ram indicated

if i pick trout in the 15th round, he should cost alot more than a 14th round pick (I would say +5) and frankly I failed to comprehend the FA part

[ntndeacon]

in and some sort of keepers sounds like a good thing to me.


I would think 1st year at the same amount second year we need more than just a 1 round gain. I like clap's idea of +5..

[MizzouRah]

I'm IN

[TRO]

In.

No on keepers, but if we do use them, +5 rounds sounds about right.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

We have had 9 of 12 people respond so far on the first day of the thread. Good hustle people!

Sterlingice got back to me and said he didn't have time to do the league this year which means Toddzilla is on the top of the waiting list.

As far as a keeper league is concerned, I am against it because I think it takes away from the draft which I feel is the main draw of a league like this. Nevertheless, majority rules.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Mizzourah, subby and samifan please make a vote on keepers when you get a chance. If we don't hear from them within the next day or so I will pm them.

Hopefully everyone will join the league within the week so that way we can know whether or not this will be a keeper league. Also if we do decide its a keeper league this gives us some time to figure out the mechanics of it before the draft.

[PackerFanatic]

I suppose I can come back - gotta make up for a dismal showing last year

And I am a no on the keepers. Part of the appeal of this league is the redraft aspect - and the rules that Ram proposed are far too convoluted

[Toddzilla]

Limit the number of keepers - say 5 - and you get a keeper league and a meaningful draft

[PackerFanatic]

That said - if the keeper idea does pass, I think a better fleshing out of the rules would certainly be needed. I don't think it needs to be quite as complicated as Ram put forth.

[claphamsa]

oh, yeah, I would limit to 2-3 keepers.

[Ramzavail]

We had a 28 round draft last year - having 3 keepers, still makes the draft very meaningful.

for LWSFS and your no vote - "28.4 yasiel puig"

Imagine, if we had keeper rules in place for last year

[Ramzavail]

for PackerFanatic - "23.7 - Jean Segura, SS, MIL"

[Ramzavail]

for TRO - "22.3 Matt Carpenter, STL"

for all your No votes - all three of you guys would have at least one really good keeper.

[ntndeacon]

I would have more than just 2 or 3.... I would be ok with as many as 10. (but of course you don't have to keep any)

[TRO]

Ramz, I'm sure we all have players that would make fine keepers. Doesn't change my opinion on them. I like that the entire league starts fresh and it keeps every team focused on this year.

[Comey]

I'm leaning towards staying in, but I may have difficulty staying active in the draft, due to work schedule. I also may be switching jobs in a month, which could prohibit things. Give me a day to ponder, please.

[MizzouRah]

Keeper - Nay

I'm with TRO - I like it to be fresh each season.

[Danny]

I am in, nay to keepers

[PackerFanatic]

One more thought on keepers - if they do pass, I would vote that they don't start until the 2015 season (meaning we draft fresh this year). Draft strategy is most certainly affected by a keeper aspect and it wouldn't be right to base 2014 keepers off of last year's draft, when we didn't have keepers in play.

[Ramzavail]

Oh I know. I think everybody is on board with that. I wasnt suggesting we start with guys we drafted last year. I was just bringing up examples from last year.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

Oh I know. I think everybody is on board with that. I wasnt suggesting we start with guys we drafted last year. I was just bringing up examples from last year.

Okay - just making sure.

[samifan24]

Another vote against keepers.

[cubboyroy1826]

I would be interested in coming back if you have an opening.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Looks like we are waiting to see if Comey can join and we have two people on the waiting list.

Also waiting on subby's vote.

The current keeper vote is 4 yay. 6 nay.

[Ramzavail]

ugh, so then its been rejected already.

[Comey]

I should bow out this year. I think life will be rather hectic, and there should be someone more able to be dedicated.

Thanks for having me the past couple of years!

[Subby]

no to keepers

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Looks like a no to the keepers and I will send out a pm to Toddzilla to see if he wants to join then we can begin to setup the order of the draft and pick a draft day.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Originally Posted by Comey

I should bow out this year. I think life will be rather hectic, and there should be someone more able to be dedicated.

Thanks for having me the past couple of years!

Sorry you can't do it this year. Maybe next year!

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I set up the new yahoo baseball league. It automatically sends out a league invite to the email you registered with. If you don't get an invite, let me know.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

The hartford heroes sure registered fast!!

[Toddzilla]

I'm in - lets light this candle

[claphamsa]

Google Drive

spreadsheet. let me know if yalls want anything different this year.

[samifan24]

Originally Posted by LastWhiteSoxFanStanding

The hartford heroes sure registered fast!!

I'm ready to defend my title!

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by samifan24

I'm ready to defend my title!

Not so fast my friend!

[PackerFanatic]

Agreed! I intend to return to my former glory!

[claphamsa]

I comprehend the rules this year.... your all fucked!