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Old 01-10-2008, 04:12 PM   #351
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The Bunk...scamming some kid with a photo copier lie detector test

That was funny. It was straight out of the first season of Homicide, which from my understanding was pretty faithful to David Simon's non-fiction book. Basically there's a pretty good chance that the copy machine lie detector trick really happened, which makes it that much funnier.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:11 PM   #352
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That was funny. It was straight out of the first season of Homicide, which from my understanding was pretty faithful to David Simon's non-fiction book. Basically there's a pretty good chance that the copy machine lie detector trick really happened, which makes it that much funnier.

There are stories of this sort of trick being used in real police departments all over the place, including in the case files of any number of "evidence admissibility" cases in the courts. Definitely an old standard.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:16 PM   #353
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I'm I the only one who still doesn't have Episode 2 available through On Demand?
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:26 PM   #354
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There's an interesting series on BET called 'American Gangster' that profiles many modern black gangsters. This week I caught one about former Baltimore drug kingpin Melvin Williams, and there was a lot of stuff in Melvin's life that provided inspiration for 'the wire' and the episode also featured a lot of commentary from both of the creators of 'the wire' as well. Melvin Williams himself also plays the deacon on 'the wire', and it's quite a trip watching that kind of hangdog face you associate with the deacon, framed in big gold sunglasses, talking about how he wanted to sell "Kilos upon kilos to people upon people." Worth your time if you're a 'wire' fan and stumble upon it in re-runs.

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Old 01-13-2008, 11:55 PM   #355
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If you have read Freakonomics, the Indian Sociologist that goes in as a grad student to study the Chicago crack gangs watched S5E1 with some other hoods and og's from NYC. http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...k-of-the-wire/ I don't know if this was a one-off or if it'll be posted every week.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:07 AM   #356
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Damn McNulty, what are you getting yourself into?
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:14 PM   #357
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I guess his self-destruction has just reached the level from which he can't go back, and that's sad. I actually (and I feel I may be in the minority with this) LOVED Season 4 McNulty. It was nice to see him happy. I like Beadie Russell. But now, there's no going back. He's dug his own grave, I fear.

I'm in the same boat, I think Jimmy will be interesting this season but I just know this won't end well, which is too bad.
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:05 AM   #358
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S5 E's 3/4
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:56 AM   #359
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One of the things I'm really enjoying this season is the recurring minor characters. For example, the girl from Bub's AA meeting was shown very briefly buying drugs in season 3 and now however many years later is trying to go straight.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:51 AM   #360
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One of the things I'm really enjoying this season is the recurring minor characters. For example, the girl from Bub's AA meeting was shown very briefly buying drugs in season 3 and now however many years later is trying to go straight.

She was also seen in season 4 as a hooker. I think she's actually the daughter or niece of someone behind the scenes.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:51 AM   #361
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I remain a pretty unabashed fan of this show. Period.

I am at the same time getting a little disappointed with the press angle so far. I don't really ever recall feeling like I could see the puppet strings all that clearly in this show (with the possible exception of the way they orchestrated ways to keep our favorite characters in the show, despite changing focus of the storyline). But I do here. It just feels like they have said "well, we have ten eps to talk about the press, so we want to get every major issue facing newspapers front and center pronto." So, I feel like they are simultaneously spinning us toward the multiple and predictable plotlines of bottom line pressures ruining journalism, incompetent/corrupt bosses stifling quality journalists, and ambitious reports run amok while coddled by system. Not that there's really anything wrong with having elements of these things in the story, but it feels sort of like a little league game already, where the manager is under orders to get every single kid an at bat, first and foremost.

Oh, and thus far, I don't like the notion that "Gus" gets to wear a completely white hat. So far, one of the best things about this show has been the depth they lend pretty much everybody that make them more than cardboard cutouts... I'd really hate it if we've just basically decided to show the David Simons and Bill Zorzis of the world as the noble white knights who can do no wrong but get screwed by the system in the end. Gus needs a flaw, and he needs it pretty soon.
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:17 AM   #362
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:01 PM   #363
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that was cold blooded, last night.....
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:16 PM   #364
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cheese was having a territory dispute with the guy from the co-op. marlo basically ended it for him.

marlos scene at the end of last nights episode was absolutely amazing.
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:29 PM   #365
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Awesome show....too bad I'm just discovering it, and it's almost over.
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:44 PM   #366
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cheese was having a territory dispute with the guy from the co-op. marlo basically ended it for him.

marlos scene at the end of last nights episode was absolutely amazing.

Talk about ruthless killers, Marlo's crew. What amazes me most is how they seem completely fucking fascinated with how they kill. Snoop would casually tilt her head as she kept shooting Butchie and watched his pain. Chris would cock a slight smile as he observed his handywork. Marlo doesn't even flinch when Chris shoots Prop Joe, only stands there with a slightly open mouth, as if he's holding back a grin. Really chilling.
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Old 01-28-2008, 03:07 PM   #367
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Great death scene for Prop Joe. "Close your eyes, Joe". I thought Joe would end up as the smart kingpin that retires and leaves the game to the younger and hungrier. He was clearly on his way out, but I sure didn't expect it to go down like it did.

In (admittedly redundant) praise of the writing on this show, I would like to mention the scene where Templeton goes to the job interview at the Washington Post. His excited arrival, asking to sit in on a meeting. The interview, when the guy looks at his work and then shifts to talking about how the Sun is a quality paper. The exit, where the lady points to the sticker on his chest and tells him, "You can just throw that away".

What a great line! I just thought that sequence was really well done.
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Old 01-28-2008, 05:50 PM   #368
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i can't wait to see omar kill all those clowns.....
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Old 01-28-2008, 06:02 PM   #369
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id just likel to point out the writing mirroring the fall of prop joe and burrell was absolutely amazing.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:15 PM   #370
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For whatever it's worth, muck like last year there are episodes on the net that have been leaked early. I haven't checked recently, but last I looked 5,6 & 7 were available. Note that the sound and video quality is pretty poor, and it didn't dawn on me until I was finished (I'm a little slow) that now I have to wait like 3 weeks to catch a new episode.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:31 PM   #371
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That was a really tough episode. I'm a little ashamed that I didn't see it coming for Joe, but in retrospect should have felt it. I guess it's another tip of the cap that this show didn't feel the need to drop in a bunch of foreshadowing crap that would have second nature for standard TV writers. It's such a mature show in that respect.

I agree with many of the people's observations about this episode, clearly the best of the season thus far. The Post interview and the Joe/Burrell parallel were both really well conceived, I agree. I'd also point out that for those of us who are Omar Little fans, our faith in that character was deeply reaffirmed at that *huge* scene between him and Slim, when he showed us exactly what it is that makes us actually admire him so much. "A man's got to have a code," indeed.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:57 PM   #372
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Ive watched episodes 1-7 and this season is shaping up quite nicely. I cant wait to discuss it once everyone catches up.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:13 PM   #373
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Wow, Freamon and McNulty are insane, brillant, but insane. It seems like quite the race to get Marlo, Bunk vs McNulty and the Co-op vs Omar. Somehow I think Michaels kindness will come back to haunt him and will make the case for Bunk. Maybe Michael flips after someone from Marlo's crew kills Dookie? Thoughts?

I'm really excited to see where it goes. The next 4 episodes should be great; although I'm getting bored with the newspaper angle, it hasn't captured me like the rest of the players.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:17 PM   #374
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I was somewhat hoping they would have shown how Omar survived that fall. But I guess it's really not that kind of show.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:24 PM   #375
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I loved Marlo's handling of the co-op this week.

"One more thing, the price of brick's going up."

Also happy/sad to see Randy, one of my favorite kids from last season. As everything heads towards a climax I can't help but think that everybody is going to end up completely screwed, which is pretty much par for the course...except for that lying-ass, lazy reporter from the Sun, I bet that shyster somehow sneaks out of the inevitable carnage and gets his job at the Post.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:30 AM   #376
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I loved Marlo's handling of the co-op this week.

"One more thing, the price of brick's going up."

Similarly, loved Fat Face Rick's "Didn't think so..." when he asked Omar if he killed Prop Joe and Hungry Man.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:13 PM   #377
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Man....episode 7 is off-the-charts awesome. I heart Clay Davis.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:26 PM   #378
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:30 AM   #379
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fuck you, detox.

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Old 02-18-2008, 03:47 AM   #380
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Pyser, he spoil tagged it

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:21 AM   #381
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I saw that on Youtube a week or so ago....yeah, pretty much exactly my sentiments.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:43 AM   #382
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Man....episode 7 is off-the-charts awesome. I heart Clay Davis.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:46 AM   #383
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Speaking of Clay Davis... some inside baseball for those not plugged into the Maryland politics scene. The recent scene when Clay Davis went onto a radio talk show to "air his side of things" was priceless. The guy running the radio talk show is Larry Young (who really does have a radio show) and who in real life was.... hmmm... a state senator who got busted for racketeering and influence peddling and apparently had all manner of dirtiness going on when he went down. In other words, they basically took the real life guy who inspired the Clay Davis character, and got him to do a cameo on the show interviewing Clay Davis.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:02 AM   #384
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:52 AM   #385
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Speaking of Clay Davis... some inside baseball for those not plugged into the Maryland politics scene. The recent scene when Clay Davis went onto a radio talk show to "air his side of things" was priceless. The guy running the radio talk show is Larry Young (who really does have a radio show) and who in real life was.... hmmm... a state senator who got busted for racketeering and influence peddling and apparently had all manner of dirtiness going on when he went down. In other words, they basically took the real life guy who inspired the Clay Davis character, and got him to do a cameo on the show interviewing Clay Davis.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Not quite along the same lines, but I thought the Richard Belzer cameo ("I used to own a bar") was a nice touch.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:03 AM   #386
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Even though I saw that coming I still LOL'd, and I'm not an LOLer. I love this show.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:32 AM   #387
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Not quite along the same lines, but I thought the Richard Belzer cameo ("I used to own a bar") was a nice touch.

Yes yes... I presume we will now see The Wire listed as yet another TV show in which Belzer portrayed John Munch. He clearly takes pride in this weird little record of his.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:46 PM   #388
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Speaking of Clay Davis...

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Old 02-21-2008, 02:29 PM   #389
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More Ep 58 related stuff:

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:47 PM   #390
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Along the lines of Logan's spoiler, I'm pretty sure back in season 1 when Lester Freamon goes to the boxing gym to find a picture of Avon, Michael is standing outside by the door, but I've never been able to confirm that.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:58 PM   #391
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Along the lines of Logan's spoiler, I'm pretty sure back in season 1 when Lester Freamon goes to the boxing gym to find a picture of Avon, Michael is standing outside by the door, but I've never been able to confirm that.

I'm almost 100% positive you're correct.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:09 PM   #392
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I'll pop in my DVDs tomorrow and take a look.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:25 PM   #393
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:42 PM   #394
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:02 PM   #395
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One other thing I saw in a comment thread - was the older guy working with Omar who got killed before Omar jumped out the window the real life inspiration for Omar?

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Old 02-22-2008, 01:16 PM   #396
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Yep.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:32 PM   #397
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The actor that plays Bunk is 45, the actor that plays Omar is approx 42, I guess Bunk could be 37 or 38 maybe, i dunno.
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The actor that plays Bunk is 45, the actor that plays Omar is approx 42, I guess Bunk could be 37 or 38 maybe, i dunno.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:48 PM   #399
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David Simon interview with Newsweek, where he addresses a lot of the newsroom criticism when talking about Season 5. No mention of anything that hasn't aired on regular TV yet.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/114438/page/1
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Episode 8 was great, that part with McNulty and the profiler had me rolling.

Anyways I found episode 9 somewhere on the net.

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