SCOTUS Gay Marriage Thread

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I thought it was more of an open secret that for Fox purposes was just never addressed.

Seems you're right:

How Fox News Shoved Shepard Smith Back Into The Closet

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Subby

pic.twitter.com/KnvHviZ2jz

— Who is Jose Rivera? (@whoisjoserivera) September 9, 2015

LOL

Gov. Mike Huckabee on Twitter: "We must uphold the Constitution. Retweet if you agree. #ImwithMike #WethePeople http://t.co/O0PRKBWbYr"

[Thomkal]

Excepting of course that the guys whose role it is to interpret the Constitution did so this summer and by a 5-4 vote found it unconstitutional that gay marriage was not allowed in several places. I once thought Huckabee was a Candidate that could be someone Democrats could support and vote for. Glad I was wrong. He and Cruz have no chance at being nominated let alone win a general election.

[stevew]

I'm glad that Survivor is suing them.

[Dutch]

I found this funny...and Shepard happened to be involved, so I figured I'd post it here.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Excepting of course that the guys whose role it is to interpret the Constitution did so this summer and by a 5-4 vote found it unconstitutional that gay marriage was not allowed in several places. I once thought Huckabee was a Candidate that could be someone Democrats could support and vote for. Glad I was wrong. He and Cruz have no chance at being nominated let alone win a general election.

Huckabee has always scared me, but for different reasons from Scott Walker.

Walker's a snake. Huckabee's just flat kooky.

[albionmoonlight]

So Kim Davis didn't want marriage licenses going out with her name on them. The county found a way to accommodate that.

So it's a win-win, right? She got just what she wanted. And the county is no longer unconstitutionally restricting marriage.

This all goes away now, right?

[Thomkal]

this really isn't about gay marriage, but just shows the Huckabee lunacy:

Mike Huckabee: Dred Scott decision ‘is still the law of the land’ regardless of 14th Amendment

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

So Kim Davis didn't want marriage licenses going out with her name on them. The county found a way to accommodate that.

So it's a win-win, right? She got just what she wanted. And the county is no longer unconstitutionally restricting marriage.

This all goes away now, right?

Nope:

Anti-Government Group Threatens To Step In To Keep Kim Davis Out Of Jail

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

this really isn't about gay marriage, but just shows the Huckabee lunacy:

Mike Huckabee: Dred Scott decision ‘is still the law of the land’ regardless of 14th Amendment

Forget citizenship applicants, shouldn't we require presidential candidates to pass a basic civics course?

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Nope:

Anti-Government Group Threatens To Step In To Keep Kim Davis Out Of Jail

Hey, media? Armed guys threatening to kill a federal judge in order to intimidate? Can we please just call them terrorists and not "anti-government groups?"

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

this really isn't about gay marriage, but just shows the Huckabee lunacy:

Mike Huckabee: Dred Scott decision ‘is still the law of the land’ regardless of 14th Amendment

Is there a local HS civics class he could attend to learn how this stuff works?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Nope:

Anti-Government Group Threatens To Step In To Keep Kim Davis Out Of Jail

I thought their oath was to uphold the constitution? They need a new name.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Hey, media? Armed guys threatening to kill a federal judge in order to intimidate? Can we please just call them terrorists and not "anti-government groups?"

Terrorists have beards and random apostrophes in their names.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Hey, media? Armed guys threatening to kill a federal judge in order to intimidate? Can we please just call them terrorists and not "anti-government groups?"

No American would ever be a terrorist according to the media I guess

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Terrorists have beards and random apostrophes in their names.

checks out

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Terrorists have beards and random apostrophes in their names.

And are primarily brown.

[Thomkal]

Best response to Kim Davis I've seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqAWL85kkmc

And Conservatives calling for a ban on Tide in 5.4.3...

[digamma]

Love that commercial.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

So Kim Davis didn't want marriage licenses going out with her name on them. The county found a way to accommodate that.

So it's a win-win, right? She got just what she wanted. And the county is no longer unconstitutionally restricting marriage.

This all goes away now, right?

Nope:

Kim Davis inspires NC mayoral candidate to jail gays: ‘What’s wrong with eradicating homosexuals?’

[Thomkal]

I guess this is our everything gay thread right? I wonder if Repubs/Conservatives will try to block it?

Obama nominates openly gay man to lead Army - CNNPolitics.com

[miami_fan]

Secretary Fanning was confirmed as the undersecretary of the Air Force and the Army in the past so I would assume he will be confirmed once again.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Secretary Fanning was confirmed as the undersecretary of the Air Force and the Army in the past so I would assume he will be confirmed once again.

But then gay marriage wasn't allowed and it was for undersecretary not secretary. Given how the republican candidates for President have all come out against gay marriage and many of them are senators/representatives, don't you think some of them will try to block it because he's gay?

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I guess this is our everything gay thread right?

This...this made me chuckle.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

But then gay marriage wasn't allowed and it was for undersecretary not secretary. Given how the republican candidates for President have all come out against gay marriage and many of them are senators/representatives, don't you think some of them will try to block it because he's gay?

I would never put it past politicians to oppose someone for the sake of opposition. I just think that he is too much of an insider and a known commodity to not be confirmed. I fully expect a bit of grandstanding during his confirmation hearings.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I would never put it past politicians to oppose someone for the sake of opposition. I just think that he is too much of an insider and a known commodity to not be confirmed. I fully expect a bit of grandstanding during his confirmation hearings.

Probably by Cruz if he gets a chance.

[Thomkal]

Just when you thought it was over:

Kentucky clerk Kim Davis appeals order that put her in jail - AOL

[tarcone]

And then this happens. So many things not thought about.

Couple seeks right to marry. The hitch? They’re legally father and son | FOX2now.com

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by tarcone

And then this happens. So many things not thought about.

Couple seeks right to marry. The hitch? They’re legally father and son | FOX2now.com

What wasn't thought of? Legally, they can't get married until the adoption is annulled.

[Thomkal]

Let's hope now that marriage is legal, this loophole can be closed and couples who went through this can get married. Of course, this being the US legal system, they will probably lose on appeal.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by tarcone

And then this happens. So many things not thought about.

Couple seeks right to marry. The hitch? They’re legally father and son | FOX2now.com

It was definitely thought of and rightfully dismissed as an idiotic reason to oppose same sex marriage.

[tarcone]

My point being is this type of thing will continue to come up. Like with anything there are unforeseen things that pop up. Who thought that there would have to be rulings on getting adoptions annulled? And then what consequences arise out of that. There are bound to be more unforeseen things that pop up. Some of which no one will see coming.

[miked]

What exactly are the far-reaching consequences of getting fake adoptions annulled? Will cows want to marry pigs while adopting a horse??

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by tarcone

My point being is this type of thing will continue to come up. Like with anything there are unforeseen things that pop up. Who thought that there would have to be rulings on getting adoptions annulled? And then what consequences arise out of that. There are bound to be more unforeseen things that pop up. Some of which no one will see coming.

Just working out the kinks of a new legal day.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by miked

What exactly are the far-reaching consequences of getting fake adoptions annulled? Will cows want to marry pigs while adopting a horse??

If I could predict the future I would be a wealthy man.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by tarcone

My point being is this type of thing will continue to come up. Like with anything there are unforeseen things that pop up. Who thought that there would have to be rulings on getting adoptions annulled? And then what consequences arise out of that. There are bound to be more unforeseen things that pop up. Some of which no one will see coming.

Blacks and whites might start living together! Women may have the right to vote! Who else knows what ills will befall us!

This kind of fear is just a shroud for bigotry.

[tarcone]

Wow. Fear? Bigotry? Not even close. You don't know me. You don't know my experiences.
Sad commentary by you. Toss your stones somewhere else.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Blacks and whites might start living together! Women may have the right to vote! Who else knows what ills will befall us!

This kind of fear is just a shroud for bigotry.

Cats and Dogs living together, MASS HYSTERIA!

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Wow. Fear? Bigotry? Not even close. You don't know me. You don't know my experiences.
Sad commentary by you. Toss your stones somewhere else.

Throw stones? Never. I just want to rub your back and whisper sweet nothings in your ear. Be careful though, homosexuality is a fever and you just might catch it!

[cuervo72]

Something something Woody Allen...

[tarcone]

Man, this is truly a hate filled thread. Those of you that are championing equal rights sure are fast to attack anyone who you feel has an opposing view. Yeah, you guys are truly progressive and enlightened individuals. Keep up the good fight.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Man, this is truly a hate filled thread. Those of you that are championing equal rights sure are fast to attack anyone who you feel has an opposing view. Yeah, you guys are truly progressive and enlightened individuals. Keep up the good fight.

I wish I knew how to quit you!?!

[RedKingGold]

In all seriousness, it's hard to have an intelligent debate about future concerns or fears which may never come to fruition. There's a chance I could get hit by a car tomorrow, so I should just stay home and not drive to work. Changes always creates unintended circumstances, some good and some bad. You can't use that as an excuse not to change.

Now, I'm going to get out of here before JonIMGA drops an anvil on my head.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

In all seriousness, it's hard to have an intelligent debate about future concerns or fears which may never come to fruition. There's a chance I could get hit by a car tomorrow, so I should just stay home and not drive to work. Changes always creates unintended circumstances, some good and some bad. You can't use that as an excuse not to change.

Now, I'm going to get out of here before JonIMGA drops an anvil on my head.

It's actually quite easy in some circumstances.

I could change my life and start doing heroin. Now there's a chance I could get addicted and ruin my health and my life. But I probably shouldn't use that as an excuse not to change.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by tarcone

And then this happens. So many things not thought about.

Couple seeks right to marry. The hitch? They’re legally father and son | FOX2now.com

This could happen with a father and daughter too. What the hell does this have to do with same sex marriage?

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Man, this is truly a hate filled thread. Those of you that are championing equal rights sure are fast to attack anyone who you feel has an opposing view. Yeah, you guys are truly progressive and enlightened individuals. Keep up the good fight.

"How dare someone not treat my bigotry as equally valid!"

[EagleFan]

How is this even an issue any more? Law abiding individuals who are consenting adults should have the right to marry. There are no laws being broken by their union.

There is only thing that bugs me and that is the SCOTUS taking away state rights. Sadly there are enough backwards neanderthals that would prevent this from being legal in their states so this will have to work for now.

Life is not as hard as many make it. Keep your religion to yourself, don't use it to run a country.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This could happen with a father and daughter too. What the hell does this have to do with same sex marriage?

But that breaks the straw man...

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

How is this even an issue any more? Law abiding individuals who are consenting adults should have the right to marry. There are no laws being broken by their union.

More importantly, no one's rights are being infringed by two guys or two girls marrying. They're two consenting adults entering into a contract.

If you don't want it in your house, great. But don't try to tell the rest of us how to live.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

More importantly, no one's rights are being infringed by two guys or two girls marrying. They're two consenting adults entering into a contract.

If you don't want it in your house, great. But don't try to tell the rest of us how to live.

This, a thousand times this!