Official College Football Week 12 thread - Page 4

RainMaker · 11-20-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

To be fair, FSU has dominated everyone (except maybe BC). I really don't understand how they are not #1. Apparently if you are in the SEC, you can lay an egg in a road game and it really doesn't matter, even if that team is terrible. But if you are in any other conference and you lay an egg in a road game, you get jumped.

Florida State has just dominated everyone. Every game they have played it seems like they are up 21-0 or 28-0 by end of the first quarter. They are making it look easy.

They should be #1. Only reason they aren't is that Alabama started there and apparently that's a reason for keeping them there. A system where being ranked higher before a game is played factors into who plays in the national championship.

dawgfan · 11-20-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

They should be #1. Only reason they aren't is that Alabama started there and apparently that's a reason for keeping them there. A system where being ranked higher before a game is played factors into who plays in the national championship.

That's not the "only reason"; fact is, most advanced metrics have these teams in a virtual deadlock. What tips the scales for most voters is a tougher SOS for Alabama. And whether you think it's fair or not, there's also undoubtedly some benefit of the doubt given to Alabama because of their recent run of success.

RainMaker · 11-20-2013, 01:40 AM

Advanced metrics that are not allowed to account for margin of victory. Not so advanced.

Logan · 11-20-2013, 11:40 AM

The Jameis Winston sexual assault investigation is getting a little hairier...

Statement: Police warned accuser about pursuing Jameis Winston matter | Tampa Bay Times

dawgfan · 11-20-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Advanced metrics that are not allowed to account for margin of victory. Not so advanced.

WTF are you talking about? FEI, S&P, Sagarin's measures other than Pure ELO have no such restrictions.

Matthean · 11-20-2013, 07:05 PM

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Devin Gardner says that he feels like Iowa hasn't changed their defensive scheme "probably since Iowa started playing football."

https://twitter.com/ChantelJennings/...11255113977857

JonInMiddleGA · 11-20-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

What tips the scales for most voters is a tougher SOS for Alabama.

Ding ding ding.

tarcone · 11-20-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

https://twitter.com/ChantelJennings/...11255113977857

I really dont know what to say.
Iowa is pretty vanilla. Prefer to do the same things, but try and do them well.
I did like this comment though:

Neal W. ‏@Nealius74 7h

@ChantelJennings Also, Gardner your inconsistency hasn't changed since you began playing football too.

Matthean · 11-20-2013, 08:09 PM

I got a big chuckle out of the whole thing.

dawgfan · 11-20-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Ding ding ding.

That said, the difference in SOS between the two isn't huge. Sagarin has Alabama at 41st toughest and FSU at 58th toughest.

Matthean · 11-20-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

That said, the difference in SOS between the two isn't huge. Sagarin has Alabama at 41st toughest and FSU at 58th toughest.

Auburn and Missouri will offer more resistance than what FSU will have to face as well.

CU Tiger · 11-20-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Auburn and Missouri will offer more resistance than what FSU will have to face as well.

true because the SEC team FSU schedules out of conference is garbage this year.

Bama scheduled 1 ACC team OOC and FSU scheduled 1 SEC team...

Oh I forgot the SEC is the only real conference and when a new team joins there Offensive production increases each of the 1st two years (see aTm and Mizzou) wait, no what????

I'm in a bad fframe of mind tonight because of some personal struggles, so Im going to guard closely what I say, but BUT BUT...if the allegations all over college football are true, Slive needs jail time. End of story.

jbergey22 · 11-20-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

They should be #1. Only reason they aren't is that Alabama started there and apparently that's a reason for keeping them there. A system where being ranked higher before a game is played factors into who plays in the national championship.

Well if they were to play who do you think would win? That is how they should be voting.

If there is one thing we should have learned from the past 4 years is to bet on bama.

Butter · 11-21-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

That said, the difference in SOS between the two isn't huge. Sagarin has Alabama at 41st toughest and FSU at 58th toughest.

By most metrics I have read, they are similar in SOS. That may change the last couple of weeks with who Alabama has left, but so far with their schedules and what they've done with them, Florida State deserves to be #1.

Breeze · 11-21-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

true because the SEC team FSU schedules out of conference is garbage this year.

Bama scheduled 1 ACC team OOC and FSU scheduled 1 SEC team...

Oh I forgot the SEC is the only real conference and when a new team joins there Offensive production increases each of the 1st two years (see aTm and Mizzou) wait, no what????

I'm in a bad fframe of mind tonight because of some personal struggles, so Im going to guard closely what I say, but BUT BUT...if the allegations all over college football are true, Slive needs jail time. End of story.

Hey CU...something new on Slive that I've missed? Can you provide a link?

digamma · 11-21-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Bama scheduled 1 ACC team OOC and FSU scheduled 1 SEC team...

The ACC did its teams no favors with the 9 conference game bait and switch.

Thomkal · 11-23-2013, 11:11 AM

Coastal Carolina plays South Carolina today and I don't think either team really wants to play the game at this point in the season over the concern for injury. A loss won't affect CCU's playoff chances, and its likely they will lose and lose big given Steve Spurrier's 47-0 lifetime record against FBS schools and Coastal's 0-4 lifetime record against FCS schools, all blowouts.

But there is some incentive for both teams to win-Coastal Carolina was originally part of the South Carolina university system, and the parting was less than sweet lets say. They have never faced each other in many sports unless it was a playoff game as a result and certainly never in football before. So I expect Coastal to play hard the first half and depending on the score, start resting a lot of their key players to keep them safe for the playoffs.

Mike Lowe · 11-24-2013, 01:55 AM

Sorry for the quick threadjack, but I can't remember where I read the answer to this (buried somewhere in this forum):

With the new tournament setup happening next year, will these playoff stats count towards regular season totals?

Vince, Pt. II · 11-24-2013, 02:03 AM

Do bowl games count in the current set up? If so, I'd imagine the stats will. A team will have at maximum one extra game under the four team system.

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RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Advanced metrics that are not allowed to account for margin of victory. Not so advanced.

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Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Coastal Carolina plays South Carolina today and I don't think either team really wants to play the game at this point in the season over the concern for injury. A loss won't affect CCU's playoff chances, and its likely they will lose and lose big given Steve Spurrier's 47-0 lifetime record against FBS schools and Coastal's 0-4 lifetime record against FCS schools, all blowouts. But there is some incentive for both teams to win-Coastal Carolina was originally part of the South Carolina university system, and the parting was less than sweet lets say. They have never faced each other in many sports unless it was a playoff game as a result and certainly never in football before. So I expect Coastal to play hard the first half and depending on the score, start resting a lot of their key players to keep them safe for the playoffs.

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Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Do bowl games count in the current set up? If so, I'd imagine the stats will. A team will have at maximum one extra game under the four team system.

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