STORM'S END (GoT) Thread - Page 3

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:14 PM

This is what Tywin claims that Stannis has:

1.) My army is 5K larger than his.
2.) He has 57 ships under his control and that number will grow by 7 per day. This is a substantial concern. I have ships, but his count is substantially more than mine. I expect that his fleet is equal or greater than our combined fleets. I also strongly suspect he put them to use raiding Lannister lands yesterday.
3.) Stannis and I are both between 40-50K in gold, but he will accumulate money faster due to tithes.

I have a report from Chief with our totals but I hesitate to put that in this thread since that is liable to be spied upon.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:15 PM

And getting back to what I was saying about services -- what are feelings about hiring a maester to scout a Kings army for us?

murrayyyyy · 05-22-2013, 12:28 PM

I wouldn't put any of our info up. As long as you know the totals I think we should keep our personal number secret.

murrayyyyy · 05-22-2013, 12:29 PM

I'm good with whatever you guys want to do, didn't want to sneak off for a private raid this early. I think a group that acts together is better than a rouge group to start out.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I'm good with whatever you guys want to do, didn't want to sneak off for a private raid this early. I think a group that acts together is better than a rouge group to start out.

I agree but I also want you guys to have the freedom to act as you think best or if everyone isn't around to come to a group consensus -- I know that treachery can be part of this game but it is just easier for me to trust that we are all working for the same goal.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 12:51 PM

Raiding is a major concern with Stannis. We could counter that by raiding him.

I don't want to break off ties with Lannister yet. Let's wait for Darth's return and figure out our standing with Stark.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:52 PM

I hear the Starks have invited Tywin to their camp. I do not know whether to believe that or not.

We should talk about who we would like to approach with our PM's today.

I don't know whether or not to make the same offer we did with Clegane just because I suspect that whether the target is Lannister or Melisandre that their King will retain them.

Did not hear back from Varys yesterday except that he was busy and would try to get back when he had a chance.

My thought is that my PM will be one of three things: Stannis, Robb Stark (after we hear from the Hand) or a neutral that can get us info which I guess would be Littlefinger.

Though if we decide against Lannister I can offer Joffrey to bend the knee. That would be fun!

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Raiding is a major concern with Stannis. We could counter that by raiding him.

I don't want to break off ties with Lannister yet. Let's wait for Darth's return and figure out our standing with Stark.

Let's raid Stannis. I've got to run for a bit -- can you guys get me what you need in men and what land you want to target?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 12:58 PM

OK, so judging by the main thread we are being spied on.

Better to be feared than not I guess. Sucks about Clegane but we got cash at least.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 01:04 PM

I suspect that Stannis went after Clegane in the first place with this goal in mind. Cleganebend may still have the chance to flee if Stannis offers him the chance to bend the knee. We'll see.

Dragonstone lands:
King Stannis Baratheon (Autumn)-- Dragonstone (family home) (wealthy), Maidenpool (productive) and Duskendale (productive)
Ser Davos Seaworth (InBlue)-- Cape Wrath (family home) (poorest)
Ser Axell Florent (claphamsa)-- Brightwater Keep (family home) (wealthy)

Let's hit Maidenpool or Duskendale. They'll have closer to 15000 than 3000 men.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 01:20 PM

Renly: I think you need to actually send us out to raid or capture. With the amount of men I have right now, I could overwhelm Cape Wrath. If we want a more ambitious target, I need about 10,000 more men.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 01:32 PM

LEND BRIENNE OF TARTH 13,000 ADDITIONAL MEN (GET HER TO 20K)

BRIENNE OF TARTH RAIDS MAIDENPOOL

path12 · 05-22-2013, 02:33 PM

I am leaning towards using my PM today to speak to Stannis. Any ideas?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 03:04 PM

Tywin warned Stark that action against Jaime would ruin chances at negotiation. This must have been by PM since no emissaries have been sent.

You see Starks response in the main thread. What do we make of that?

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 03:11 PM

Looks like Stark is squaring off against Lannister and expecting Dragonstone and ourselves to help him. I hope they'll go to war on day 4, with stark using the intermediate period to weaken Lannister.

Stannis negotiations are going to be awkward after the raid. We'll call it retribution for ser Gregor.

Darth Vilus · 05-22-2013, 03:23 PM

Back now! So whats the down low?

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 03:28 PM

How did the talks with Stark go?

Darth Vilus · 05-22-2013, 03:31 PM

Just ok, he said he's willing to do a three way alliance until the lannisters are gone but he's not committing to anything after that. From what he's told me he's just focusing on the Lannisteres. Who knows what he is actually planning though

Chief Rum · 05-22-2013, 03:34 PM

You guys already know this, but...

Ser Cortay Penrose has returned to camp.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Looks like Stark is squaring off against Lannister and expecting Dragonstone and ourselves to help him. I hope they'll go to war on day 4, with stark using the intermediate period to weaken Lannister.

Stannis negotiations are going to be awkward after the raid. We'll call it retribution for ser Gregor.

Has he killed him yet? I was going to ask him as a sign of good faith to turn him over.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 03:40 PM

The thing about Stannis and Stark is that there hasn't been any emissary which makes me wonder how much of that is real.

Just judging by my communications so far I would find it hard to get a lot of negotiating done with just one PM/reply.

Clearly there is at least an agreement to focus on the Lannisters though.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 03:42 PM

Catch up on the thread first Penrose, but I would like to get a PM report after our brief discussion this morning.

Chief Rum · 05-22-2013, 03:48 PM

fontisian has left the camp on an unknown errand. Presumeably, she is carrying out the public orders of King Renly to raid Maidenpool.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

fontisian has left the camp on an unknown errand. Presumeably, she is carrying out the public orders of King Renly to raid Maidenpool.

(OOC) Chief, did I order that correctly? Or could I have done that through a PM? Because if I could have that would have been my preference, I don't want the raid to necessarily be public (/OOC)

Chief Rum · 05-22-2013, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

(OOC) Chief, did I order that correctly? Or could I have done that through a PM? Because if I could have that would have been my preference, I don't want the raid to necessarily be public (/OOC)

Yes, you could have done that by PM.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 04:13 PM

Shit. I guess it's too late now?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 04:22 PM

Brienne, if you can be in this thread cancel your raid. I do not want to raid Stannis publicly yet for obvious reasons.

Chief, with Brienne off does that mean she cannot see this thread?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 05:00 PM

Loras, do you have your PM available still? I know Penrose burned his and am not sure what Brienne's status is. Brienne, if you have yours available let me know -- I would like one of you to pass a message along for me but will detail it once I know your statuses.

Bannermen, feel free to vote your conscience. If that is Ser Jaime so be it.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 05:54 PM

By the way, I have told Lord Tywin that though we will not be able to come to any agreements at this time and that we do not want to waste his time we are willing to keep the lines of communication open.

murrayyyyy · 05-22-2013, 06:36 PM

I have my PM avail. Figure it's better to save and use if we need another one like last night

Chief Rum · 05-22-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Brienne, if you can be in this thread cancel your raid. I do not want to raid Stannis publicly yet for obvious reasons.

Chief, with Brienne off does that mean she cannot see this thread?

Brienne can still see and communicate in the thread while raiding.

Raiding only happens at the end of the day, so you can still cancel that action. The raid is cancelled.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 07:33 PM

Right, so I still have my pm and I think we should still raid.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 07:44 PM

I would like to offer Ser Jaime the same deal as Ser Clegane, with the intention of actually going to capture him immediatly after he flees.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 07:59 PM

The hell is Lathum doing?

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:19 PM

Send me on the raid.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:26 PM

Lord Renly, I am pissed off and I want to act. Send me on the raid and approve my message to Ser Jaime.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Lord Renly, I am pissed off and I want to act. Send me on the raid and approve my message to Ser Jaime.

Just got back. Let me take a look at the thread to see what is going on.

Had a reply from Tywin, obviously not pleased but there isn't much I can do about that right now.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:38 PM

I told Stannis I would take the return or release of Clegane as a sign of goodwill. You see his response.

Brienne, you shall get your chance. Is there any reason I should not reply to Tywin that we will play this game with them for now?

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:40 PM

Much as I would like to take out my anger on Stannis, Stark worries me. It may still be better to unite against the Lannisters.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Much as I would like to take out my anger on Stannis, Stark worries me. It may still be better to unite against the Lannisters.

We can make those choices later. You wished to raid a little bit ago. Do you still feel that way?

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:42 PM

Yes. Let's do it. Should I pm bholly?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:47 PM

I will PM Chief.

For your and Loras' PM's -- I want one to go to a Stark saying that our argument with Stannis is not one against them.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:47 PM

I would also like us to vote Melisandre.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:48 PM

If we are going to do this we cannot weaken Lannister further, we will need him to either keep Stark busy or some of his ships against Stannis.

murrayyyyy · 05-22-2013, 08:49 PM

we both followed your vote.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:50 PM

Right, Ill message Stark.

fontisian · 05-22-2013, 08:53 PM

Actually, murrayyyyy please contact Coffee. I'm still contacting bholly.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:54 PM

Guys, this is gonna be fun no matter what happens now!

murrayyyyy · 05-22-2013, 08:54 PM

Are we wanting to raid two spots or one only?

path12 · 05-22-2013, 08:54 PM

I am going to use the service that builds us ships.

05-22-2013, 12:14 PM	#101
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	This is what Tywin claims that Stannis has: 1.) My army is 5K larger than his. 2.) He has 57 ships under his control and that number will grow by 7 per day. This is a substantial concern. I have ships, but his count is substantially more than mine. I expect that his fleet is equal or greater than our combined fleets. I also strongly suspect he put them to use raiding Lannister lands yesterday. 3.) Stannis and I are both between 40-50K in gold, but he will accumulate money faster due to tithes. I have a report from Chief with our totals but I hesitate to put that in this thread since that is liable to be spied upon. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 12:15 PM	#102
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	And getting back to what I was saying about services -- what are feelings about hiring a maester to scout a Kings army for us? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 12:51 PM	#106
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Raiding is a major concern with Stannis. We could counter that by raiding him. I don't want to break off ties with Lannister yet. Let's wait for Darth's return and figure out our standing with Stark. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 12:52 PM	#107
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I hear the Starks have invited Tywin to their camp. I do not know whether to believe that or not. We should talk about who we would like to approach with our PM's today. I don't know whether or not to make the same offer we did with Clegane just because I suspect that whether the target is Lannister or Melisandre that their King will retain them. Did not hear back from Varys yesterday except that he was busy and would try to get back when he had a chance. My thought is that my PM will be one of three things: Stannis, Robb Stark (after we hear from the Hand) or a neutral that can get us info which I guess would be Littlefinger. Though if we decide against Lannister I can offer Joffrey to bend the knee. That would be fun! __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 12:58 PM	#109
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	OK, so judging by the main thread we are being spied on. Better to be feared than not I guess. Sucks about Clegane but we got cash at least. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 12:28 PM	#103
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I wouldn't put any of our info up. As long as you know the totals I think we should keep our personal number secret.

05-22-2013, 12:29 PM	#104
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I'm good with whatever you guys want to do, didn't want to sneak off for a private raid this early. I think a group that acts together is better than a rouge group to start out.

05-22-2013, 01:04 PM	#110
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	I suspect that Stannis went after Clegane in the first place with this goal in mind. Cleganebend may still have the chance to flee if Stannis offers him the chance to bend the knee. We'll see. Dragonstone lands: King Stannis Baratheon (Autumn)-- Dragonstone (family home) (wealthy), Maidenpool (productive) and Duskendale (productive) Ser Davos Seaworth (InBlue)-- Cape Wrath (family home) (poorest) Ser Axell Florent (claphamsa)-- Brightwater Keep (family home) (wealthy) Let's hit Maidenpool or Duskendale. They'll have closer to 15000 than 3000 men. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 01:20 PM	#111
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Renly: I think you need to actually send us out to raid or capture. With the amount of men I have right now, I could overwhelm Cape Wrath. If we want a more ambitious target, I need about 10,000 more men. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 01:32 PM	#112
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	LEND BRIENNE OF TARTH 13,000 ADDITIONAL MEN (GET HER TO 20K) BRIENNE OF TARTH RAIDS MAIDENPOOL __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 02:33 PM	#113
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I am leaning towards using my PM today to speak to Stannis. Any ideas? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 03:04 PM	#114
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Tywin warned Stark that action against Jaime would ruin chances at negotiation. This must have been by PM since no emissaries have been sent. You see Starks response in the main thread. What do we make of that? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 03:11 PM	#115
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Looks like Stark is squaring off against Lannister and expecting Dragonstone and ourselves to help him. I hope they'll go to war on day 4, with stark using the intermediate period to weaken Lannister. Stannis negotiations are going to be awkward after the raid. We'll call it retribution for ser Gregor. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 03:23 PM	#116
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Back now! So whats the down low? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-22-2013, 03:28 PM	#117
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	How did the talks with Stark go? __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 03:31 PM	#118
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Just ok, he said he's willing to do a three way alliance until the lannisters are gone but he's not committing to anything after that. From what he's told me he's just focusing on the Lannisteres. Who knows what he is actually planning though __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

05-22-2013, 03:34 PM	#119
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	You guys already know this, but... Ser Cortay Penrose has returned to camp. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-22-2013, 03:40 PM	#121
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	The thing about Stannis and Stark is that there hasn't been any emissary which makes me wonder how much of that is real. Just judging by my communications so far I would find it hard to get a lot of negotiating done with just one PM/reply. Clearly there is at least an agreement to focus on the Lannisters though. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 03:42 PM	#122
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Catch up on the thread first Penrose, but I would like to get a PM report after our brief discussion this morning. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 03:48 PM	#123
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	fontisian has left the camp on an unknown errand. Presumeably, she is carrying out the public orders of King Renly to raid Maidenpool. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-22-2013, 04:13 PM	#126
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Shit. I guess it's too late now? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 04:22 PM	#127
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Brienne, if you can be in this thread cancel your raid. I do not want to raid Stannis publicly yet for obvious reasons. Chief, with Brienne off does that mean she cannot see this thread? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 05:00 PM	#128
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Loras, do you have your PM available still? I know Penrose burned his and am not sure what Brienne's status is. Brienne, if you have yours available let me know -- I would like one of you to pass a message along for me but will detail it once I know your statuses. Bannermen, feel free to vote your conscience. If that is Ser Jaime so be it. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 05:54 PM	#129
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	By the way, I have told Lord Tywin that though we will not be able to come to any agreements at this time and that we do not want to waste his time we are willing to keep the lines of communication open. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 06:36 PM	#130
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I have my PM avail. Figure it's better to save and use if we need another one like last night

05-22-2013, 07:33 PM	#132
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Right, so I still have my pm and I think we should still raid. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 07:44 PM	#133
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	I would like to offer Ser Jaime the same deal as Ser Clegane, with the intention of actually going to capture him immediatly after he flees. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 07:59 PM	#134
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	The hell is Lathum doing? __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 08:19 PM	#135
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Send me on the raid. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 08:26 PM	#136
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Lord Renly, I am pissed off and I want to act. Send me on the raid and approve my message to Ser Jaime. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 08:38 PM	#138
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I told Stannis I would take the return or release of Clegane as a sign of goodwill. You see his response. Brienne, you shall get your chance. Is there any reason I should not reply to Tywin that we will play this game with them for now? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 08:40 PM	#139
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Much as I would like to take out my anger on Stannis, Stark worries me. It may still be better to unite against the Lannisters. __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 08:42 PM	#141
fontisian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2013	Yes. Let's do it. Should I pm bholly? __________________ Brienne of Tarth Storm's End

05-22-2013, 08:47 PM	#142
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I will PM Chief. For your and Loras' PM's -- I want one to go to a Stark saying that our argument with Stannis is not one against them. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 08:47 PM	#143
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I would also like us to vote Melisandre. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.