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Old 10-30-2012, 02:27 PM   #301
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Was passing through Madison, GA (right off I-20) this afternoon, ran into a small fleet of power company trucks from Washington-St. Tammany EMC ... en route to Maryland.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:58 PM   #302
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Seeing the pictures of the devestation on Seaside Heights, especially the two piers, just made me lose it. That place was a huge part of my childhood and it was one of the things I most spoke about when I would tell people what I loved about my childhood home and New Jersey in general. It has just gave me such a sense of loss .

Me too, really made me feel a sense of loss that something from my childhood is essentialy wiped off the map.

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:21 PM   #303
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Thank you. As sad as that story is, I couldn't believe we got a good 4-5 posts in before anyone made a Mutiny on the Bounty joke.

The story gets sadder and a lot stranger. The crew member that died claimed to be a direct descendant of Fletcher Christian.

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:21 PM   #304
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I feel kind of like a wuss. They just showed a part of Seaside Heights I used to walk all the time during the summers and it was ALL gone and I just started crying again.

I'm sure your folks are ok, Lathum! I think the phone lines are down and the power as well (so to charge cell phones). But it seems most people are ok!!
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:22 PM   #305
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Hope your folks are fine Lathum!
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:25 PM   #306
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Was passing through Madison, GA (right off I-20) this afternoon, ran into a small fleet of power company trucks from Washington-St. Tammany EMC ... en route to Maryland.

Every time i see those trucks rolling out I realize I have the wrong career aspirations. I wonder what the daily rate for these type of things has to be...like 2grand a day for each guy(or even more?)
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:29 PM   #307
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:33 PM   #308
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Looks like power is out at Palmer Theological Seminary just a few miles north.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:55 PM   #309
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Got in touch with my Dad a bit ago, they are inland and evrything is fine. They have no power but nothing flooded and no major wind damage. Thanks for the kind thoughts.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #310
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:59 PM   #311
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Got in touch with my Dad a bit ago, they are inland and evrything is fine. They have no power but nothing flooded and no major wind damage. Thanks for the kind thoughts.

Excellent news!!
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:28 PM   #312
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #313
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I got power back on about 40 minutes ago, so we only were without power for about 20 hours.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:36 PM   #314
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:56 PM   #315
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:13 PM   #316
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:21 PM   #317
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Just got power back recently here too. Throughout Mercer County, it seems to be very hit-or-miss. My office is about 5 miles from here and in taking a ride there, I saw 4-5 pockets of homes with no power and my office is still down.

Hearing reports from the Middlesex area that power isn't likely to be restored for approx. 1 week yet.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:58 AM   #318
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:41 AM   #319
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:01 AM   #320
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When does the investigation begin into why the administration failed to admit it was a terrorist attack?
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:54 AM   #321
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Please do not take this post as in anyway minimizing what folks are going through. This was a major storm, and the folks in its path have my deepest sympathy. However, the coverage of it is starting to get on my nerves:

1) Stop using this as a platform to prove climate change. It was back in the 80s when I heard the quote from weather folks that "we're in a mild storm cycle, when things return to normal people are going to freak out." Storms like this have happened before, and will happen again, they aren't any worse or more frequent thanks to "climate change", this is just the planet we live on.

2) Speaking of which, stop talking about this as "unprecedented" and "never happened before". This is one of the worst storms to hit the eastern seabord simply because population levels have gone up so much, so there is much more to hit. 1938 wasn't any fun, either, but much less of the land was developed. There have been ongoing discussions over the last couple of years about how unprepared New York is were something like that storm to happen again; http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/...ne_future.html is a fun read, for example, but you can find other similar references as well. We knew this would happen eventually, so stop being surprised by it.

Let's focus on the damage, what's needed for recovery, and information about what's closed and reopening that the people in the affected area need to hear, and stop trying to editorialize.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:01 AM   #322
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When does the investigation begin into why the administration failed to admit it was a terrorist attack?

They've always known, and they could have stopped it. They just let it happen to swing the election.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:27 AM   #323
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Heard from my NY boss that the subwaysin NY aren't running and that many lights are out of service. So 8 million people are clamoring for taxis, car services, and busses. As well she says the streets of Manhattan are in chaos.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:42 AM   #324
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Heard from my NY boss that the subwaysin NY aren't running and that many lights are out of service. So 8 million people are clamoring for taxis, car services, and busses. As well she says the streets of Manhattan are in chaos.

Maybe it's much worse downtown, but I'm in midtown right now and it's actually pretty quiet. Most of that is because the commuter trains aren't running so actual volume in the city is much lower than normal.

Cabs are authorized to make multiple stops to pick up additional passengers to reduce the burden. I was surprised on my walk to the office when I saw plenty of empty cabs.

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Old 10-31-2012, 09:43 AM   #325
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Please do not take this post as in anyway minimizing what folks are going through. This was a major storm, and the folks in its path have my deepest sympathy. However, the coverage of it is starting to get on my nerves:

1) Stop using this as a platform to prove climate change. It was back in the 80s when I heard the quote from weather folks that "we're in a mild storm cycle, when things return to normal people are going to freak out." Storms like this have happened before, and will happen again, they aren't any worse or more frequent thanks to "climate change", this is just the planet we live on.

So are you a climate change denier? Or are you just irritated that people are pointing it out instead of focusing on the rest of the story?
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:53 AM   #326
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2) Speaking of which, stop talking about this as "unprecedented" and "never happened before". This is one of the worst storms to hit the eastern seabord simply because population levels have gone up so much, so there is much more to hit.

Since a storm of this magnitude had not hit a population center like this in the US, would that not make it unprecedented? The previous precedent doesn't apply, due to the lower population density at the time.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:11 AM   #328
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:27 AM   #329
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So are you a climate change denier? Or are you just irritated that people are pointing it out instead of focusing on the rest of the story?

I don't want this to get sidetracked, so my one comment and I'll stop: no, my point was that storms like this (and more unsettled weather in general) were predicted before global warming became the thing, simply because they are more typical for the earth than what we had in the 70s and 80s.
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Since a storm of this magnitude had not hit a population center like this in the US, would that not make it unprecedented? The previous precedent doesn't apply, due to the lower population density at the time.

Maybe on the "unprecedented", I'm just tired of the media pretending a large hurricane has never hit New York before, or that no one thought this would ever happen. People have been worried and talking about this very scenario for a few years now.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:39 AM   #332
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Since a storm of this magnitude had not hit a population center like this in the US, would that not make it unprecedented? The previous precedent doesn't apply, due to the lower population density at the time.

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Maybe on the "unprecedented", I'm just tired of the media pretending a large hurricane has never hit New York before, or that no one thought this would ever happen. People have been worried and talking about this very scenario for a few years now.

This wasn't even a powerful hurricane. It was large (as in area) but not powerful (as in wind). The large area probably produced a larger storm surge than one would expect to see in a category 1 hurricane but it was a still a minimal hurricane.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:48 AM   #333
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The top wind speed may have been high cat1, but the pressure was the lowest ever seen for many communities on the Eastern seaboard. This was a wickedly powerful storm with a pressure more suitable to major hurricanes.
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2) Speaking of which, stop talking about this as "unprecedented" and "never happened before". This is one of the worst storms to hit the eastern seabord simply because population levels have gone up so much, so there is much more to hit. 1938 wasn't any fun, either, but much less of the land was developed.

There was a storm that made landfall with hurricane force winds, that had gale force winds up to 1040 miles in diameter at one point, that combined with another system from the west to produce more than 2 feet of snow in 5 states, with pressure low enough that people were getting the airplane ear popping effect, and wiped out massive amounts of coastline along with sever damage to a major population center before this one? This was unprecedented on many levels.

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:56 PM   #335
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I just wonder how many homes were flooded and destroyed/damaged. And unfortunately, most will not be covered due to a "rising body of water", unless they are NFIP insured.
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I'm also curious about what they are going to do with all of those cars that will be totaled. They are going to have to take them somewhere in the mean time.
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There was a storm that made landfall with hurricane force winds, that had gale force winds up to 1040 miles in diameter at one point, that combined with another system from the west to produce more than 2 feet of snow in 5 states, with pressure low enough that people were getting the airplane ear popping effect, and wiped out massive amounts of coastline along with sever damage to a major population center before this one? This was unprecedented on many levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Eng...ricane_of_1938

That has a good list of major storms that hit the area over the last 2 centuries or so.
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:19 PM   #338
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I'm also curious about what they are going to do with all of those cars that will be totaled. They are going to have to take them somewhere in the mean time.

Here in Joplin the uninsured cars were mostly sold for scrap, of course, there wasn't much left to salvage on a lot of them.

From what I remember reading, the insurance companies will sell the cars for salvage or at auctions. The vendors who buy the nicer cars will be cleaned and refurbished and sold in other countries.


edited for: Countries... not counties!

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:23 PM   #340
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The Weather Channel was at the Mystic YMCA on Monday.

I work as a wellness and sports instructor at the Mystic YMCA.

That's still surreal to me.

Anyway, Mystic was battered...most of the town is still without power, and it could be days before it shows up. I'm thankful to have a house to return to, as we had only minor flooding, along with a random kayak in the backyard. My house is about 200 feet from the Bay/Ocean, and I was totally unsure as to whether or not I'd have a home to return to.

I hope everyone here has stayed safe.
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Instead, they were busy clowning and trying to get on camera.

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My parents in Marlboro NJ were told they'll likely be without power until November 8th.
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:30 PM   #343
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The Weather Channel was at the Mystic YMCA on Monday.

I work as a wellness and sports instructor at the Mystic YMCA.

That's still surreal to me.

Anyway, Mystic was battered...most of the town is still without power, and it could be days before it shows up. I'm thankful to have a house to return to, as we had only minor flooding, along with a random kayak in the backyard. My house is about 200 feet from the Bay/Ocean, and I was totally unsure as to whether or not I'd have a home to return to.

I hope everyone here has stayed safe.

Enjoy the new kayak!!!
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Ouch. Were they without power this time last year too when it snowed?
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I work as a wellness and sports instructor at the Mystic YMCA.

That's still surreal to me.

Well your Y wouldn't be very mystic if it wasn't a little surreal, now would it?
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I'm also curious about what they are going to do with all of those cars that will be totaled. They are going to have to take them somewhere in the mean time.

There are only so many spots in Alabama front yards, after all.
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:45 PM   #347
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Ouch. Were they without power this time last year too when it snowed?

Don't remember, but they were without power for at least a few days after Irene.
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The top wind speed may have been high cat1, but the pressure was the lowest ever seen for many communities on the Eastern seaboard. This was a wickedly powerful storm with a pressure more suitable to major hurricanes.

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There was a storm that made landfall with hurricane force winds, that had gale force winds up to 1040 miles in diameter at one point, that combined with another system from the west to produce more than 2 feet of snow in 5 states, with pressure low enough that people were getting the airplane ear popping effect, and wiped out massive amounts of coastline along with sever damage to a major population center before this one? This was unprecedented on many levels.

I don't know why I'm fighting this as I really don't care. It was a huge storm and set many meteorological records. But it had max sustained winds of ~90 mph at landfall. Solidly the middle of cat 1. It did considerable damage to an area that had a large population to witness it. But the 2 main destructive forces of a hurricane (wind and storm surge) were not unprecedented. Cat 1 wind; cat 3 storm surge.

I'm done... Now I'm going to go surf for more photos like the ones of the cars bobbing like corks in a flooded garage.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:42 PM   #349
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why do some of you feel the need to argue the semantics at all?

Can't we all just agree it was a monster of a storm that at best inconvenienced tens of millions and at worst destroyed the lives, and took the lives, of people.
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