Week 12 NFL Thread - Thanks for Giving us three games on Thursday.. - Page 2

JonInMiddleGA · 11-22-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I don't buy for a second that there wasn't something they could have done about that. All scoring plays are reviewed. What the heck.

Now the clarification...because the coach throws the flag...they can't review it? Un believable.

Exact same thing happened to the Falcons last Sunday. It's not as though it's anything new or even unknown.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 01:55 PM

How is it that none of the refs blow that dead.

Lathum · 11-22-2012, 01:57 PM

what is the point of that rule?

Hammer755 · 11-22-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

How is it that none of the refs blow that dead.

Holding the whistle is the right call there, IMO. It wasn't obvious in real time that he was down (though certainly obvious in slo-mo). A play resulting in a TD can always be reversed. A whistle where it should have been a TD can't.

Bobble · 11-22-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

what is the point of that rule?

Phil said that its that you should benefit from illegally throwing a challenge flag although it's not clear how you ever could....

B & B · 11-22-2012, 02:00 PM

Glengoyne · 11-22-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Exact same thing happened to the Falcons last Sunday. It's not as though it's anything new or even unknown.

Interesting.

I was actually going to come back here and bet that the ruling was still wrong. In that I can't see how the penalty for an illegal challenge would over rule the "rule" that ALL scoring plays are reviewed.

Glengoyne · 11-22-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

Megat*R*on. But megaton would be great for a huge D-lineman. Who do I submit that idea to?
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Auto spelling correction is a good reason not to post from your iPad. That said, now that I'm posting from a laptop, I keep touching the screen to focus the mouse. That is actually quite a bit more embarrasing.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2012, 02:13 PM

Have a hard time hearing the game.

Is it the thinking that but for Schwartz's challenge, that play would have been reviewed and the td would not have counted?

Abe Sargent · 11-22-2012, 02:14 PM

Wayne State Baby!

Glengoyne · 11-22-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Have a hard time hearing the game.

Is it the thinking that but for Schwartz's challenge, that play would have been reviewed and the td would not have counted?

Yup

stevew · 11-22-2012, 02:18 PM

Nice double team hold armbar on Watt to open that TD up.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Yup

Really? I find that hard to believe.

Hammer755 · 11-22-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Really? I find that hard to believe.

Replay clearly showed both a knee and an elbow down. Throwing the challenge flag made the score unreviewable by rule.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 02:31 PM

What the crap is Houston's gameplan here? Seems like they have been in their 2minute offense all second half.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

Replay clearly showed both a knee and an elbow down. Throwing the challenge flag made the score unreviewable by rule.

While a horrible rule, Schwartz has to know that and get a hold of himself. That's on him.

dubb93 · 11-22-2012, 02:33 PM

Ummm...hit on a defenseless receiver? On a punt? I thought his defense was to call for a fair catch and if he choose not to, and he clearly didn't call for one, he gets what he has coming.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 02:37 PM

You can't drill the runner til he fields the ball

stevew · 11-22-2012, 02:43 PM

Waiting to see the Texans call yet another horrible series of low percentage plays here

dubb93 · 11-22-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

You can't drill the runner til he fields the ball

Oh, so the ruling was he didn't have the ball yet. Well, that ruling is wrong. I rewound it several times. I didn't realize that was the ruling.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 02:45 PM

I don't have a DVR here so I couldn't re-watch it

Crapshoot · 11-22-2012, 02:49 PM

So, am I the only one who thought the Texans may have scored too soon? Ie, why run that play before the 2 minute warning?

Hammer755 · 11-22-2012, 02:50 PM

Guh. Way too much time left.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2012, 02:51 PM

Lions can never make a stop when it's needed. Never.

Matthean · 11-22-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

I don't think they can be a winning team if they aren't more disciplined. Case in point: Coach, how about you don't ejaculate a challenge flag without having thought it through for a second?

+1. The bad parts are the Fords take forever to fire anyone and the Lions having a pulse means fans are likely too grateful to really complain. It is kind of sad that being an occasional playoff team would make one considered a highly successful Lions coach.

miami_fan · 11-22-2012, 02:59 PM

This is an honest question. Not trying to troll. Why wasn't that last hit on Stafford a penalty? The helmet went to Stafford's chin.

jbergey22 · 11-22-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

This is an honest question. Not trying to troll. Why wasn't that last hit on Stafford a penalty? The helmet went to Stafford's chin.

That was a textbook football tackle. His helmet was right in his chest. Cant call that or they might as well play touch football.

jbergey22 · 11-22-2012, 03:07 PM

Pettigrew is such a bumb. He screws up so much.

Glengoyne · 11-22-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

That was a textbook football tackle. His helmet was right in his chest. Cant call that or they might as well play touch football.

I think we have seen that called in the past, but I'm in agreement. Good tackle...no spearing there.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 03:08 PM

They could literally run down the whole field on Foster's back here. But they are in love with the pass.

Glengoyne · 11-22-2012, 03:10 PM

On the bright side. This was the Johnson and Johnson receiver duo that I drafted for my fantasy team. Too bad they finally show up the same week in week...what is this 12?

miami_fan · 11-22-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I think we have seen that called in the past, but I'm in agreement. Good tackle...no spearing there.

That is my point. Especially when hitting a QB. Oh well

miami_fan · 11-22-2012, 03:14 PM

Hmmmmm, no need to get closer than a 50 yarder?

bhlloy · 11-22-2012, 03:15 PM

Some pretty questionable play calling there. Take the ball out of Fosters hands and then run him into the line when everyone knows a run is coming. Made the FG far more difficult than it needed to be

stevew · 11-22-2012, 03:16 PM

I hope this ends in a tie

bhlloy · 11-22-2012, 03:16 PM

If they had just taken a knee instead of losing six yards, FG would have been good

cougarfreak · 11-22-2012, 03:17 PM

Any Cincinnati fan can tell you, Graham is ok, until the game is on the line.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 03:22 PM

I wonder if the Texans are just winded here, or if they have the perfect overatedness/questionable offensive play calling to lose their first playoff game.

Abe Sargent · 11-22-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I wonder if the Texans are just winded here, or if they have the perfect overatedness/questionable offensive play calling to lose their first playoff game.

Four dyas ago TExas was in a looooong OT game and now they are in another. I think it's windedness.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 03:27 PM

Unbelievable play calling there

Lathum · 11-22-2012, 03:27 PM

replacement refs call that Houston ball

jbergey22 · 11-22-2012, 03:32 PM

Typical NFL. Both teams setting up for 45+ yard FG attempts to win the game. They play so scared to lose once victory is close its not even funny.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 03:33 PM

This game is a drunken fuck.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 04:50 PM

Jenkins should get tossed for that play. Looks like Garcon is back too.

stevew · 11-22-2012, 04:57 PM

This game is awesome

kingfc22 · 11-22-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

This game is awesome

Yes it is.

Alan T · 11-22-2012, 05:12 PM

No this game is not awesome. I am likely going to lose my game in fantasy football this week thanks to Rg III single handedly

Julio Riddols · 11-22-2012, 05:29 PM

RG III has a level of accuracy on most of his passes that is just flat out uncanny. You can't defend the throws he made most of the first half.

bulletsponge · 11-22-2012, 05:42 PM

someone needs to fire jerry Jones from the GM job. hed rather lose and look pathetic doing it his way than win and give credit to anyone else

Scoobz0202 · 11-22-2012, 05:59 PM

Fire them all, Jerry. Then fire yourself.

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11-22-2012, 02:13 PM	#59
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11-22-2012, 02:51 PM	#74
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11-22-2012, 01:55 PM	#52
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How is it that none of the refs blow that dead.

11-22-2012, 01:57 PM	#53
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	what is the point of that rule?

11-22-2012, 02:18 PM	#62
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Nice double team hold armbar on Watt to open that TD up.

11-22-2012, 02:31 PM	#65
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	What the crap is Houston's gameplan here? Seems like they have been in their 2minute offense all second half.

11-22-2012, 02:37 PM	#68
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	You can't drill the runner til he fields the ball

11-22-2012, 02:43 PM	#69
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Waiting to see the Texans call yet another horrible series of low percentage plays here

11-22-2012, 02:45 PM	#71
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I don't have a DVR here so I couldn't re-watch it

11-22-2012, 02:49 PM	#72
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	So, am I the only one who thought the Texans may have scored too soon? Ie, why run that play before the 2 minute warning?

11-22-2012, 02:59 PM	#76
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11-22-2012, 03:07 PM	#78
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Pettigrew is such a bumb. He screws up so much.

11-22-2012, 03:08 PM	#80
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	They could literally run down the whole field on Foster's back here. But they are in love with the pass. Last edited by stevew : 11-22-2012 at 03:09 PM.

11-22-2012, 03:10 PM	#81
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	On the bright side. This was the Johnson and Johnson receiver duo that I drafted for my fantasy team. Too bad they finally show up the same week in week...what is this 12?

11-22-2012, 03:14 PM	#83
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Hmmmmm, no need to get closer than a 50 yarder? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

11-22-2012, 03:15 PM	#84
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Some pretty questionable play calling there. Take the ball out of Fosters hands and then run him into the line when everyone knows a run is coming. Made the FG far more difficult than it needed to be

11-22-2012, 03:16 PM	#85
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I hope this ends in a tie

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11-22-2012, 03:22 PM	#88
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder if the Texans are just winded here, or if they have the perfect overatedness/questionable offensive play calling to lose their first playoff game.

11-22-2012, 03:27 PM	#90
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Unbelievable play calling there

11-22-2012, 03:32 PM	#92
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Typical NFL. Both teams setting up for 45+ yard FG attempts to win the game. They play so scared to lose once victory is close its not even funny.

11-22-2012, 03:33 PM	#93
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	This game is a drunken fuck.

11-22-2012, 04:50 PM	#94
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Jenkins should get tossed for that play. Looks like Garcon is back too.

11-22-2012, 04:57 PM	#95
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	This game is awesome

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11-22-2012, 05:29 PM	#98
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11-22-2012, 05:42 PM	#99
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	someone needs to fire jerry Jones from the GM job. hed rather lose and look pathetic doing it his way than win and give credit to anyone else

11-22-2012, 05:59 PM	#100
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